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Michael Moore on MSNBC says AOC could beat Trump. (Original Post) madaboutharry Feb 2019 OP
I can't stand that Nader supporter, Moore. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #1
That's a race I'd like to see. She'd kick his ignorant ass. Hoyt Feb 2019 #2
No doubt about it. KPN Feb 2019 #31
It was a discussion of changing age for POTUS to 30, elleng Feb 2019 #3
IT? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #8
What it takes to beat trump. elleng Feb 2019 #10
Okay. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #12
She Can Tweet Me. Feb 2019 #16
She's also very likable. Which is half the battle. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #23
Hang on........................................................ still_one Feb 2019 #24
Most of her endorsements in the 2018 primaries against Democratic incumbents sure didn't pan out still_one Feb 2019 #22
Of course he did. Cha Feb 2019 #4
He Was Right About Individual 1 Being Put In The WH Me. Feb 2019 #11
Wrong about "Romney winning" & Wrong about a lot of things. Cha Feb 2019 #13
First Of All I Dispise His Attitude Towards PBO Me. Feb 2019 #15
Moore's quote about Pres Obama only being Cha Feb 2019 #18
A picture says a thousand words. Thanks Cha still_one Feb 2019 #20
She won't be 29 forever fescuerescue Feb 2019 #5
He made a statement like that because he knows that it will cause people to give him free publicity PoliticAverse Feb 2019 #6
Just not into Moore. triron Feb 2019 #7
He Thinks The Age Should Be Lowered Me. Feb 2019 #9
Publicity hound. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #14
I think that Michael Moore is a poorly dressing slobby person. Blue_true Feb 2019 #17
What is wrong with him? He is still trying to show he still has revelence, since people have still_one Feb 2019 #19
Why doesn't he just team up with Bannon and DURHAM D Feb 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Feb 2019 #28
c'mon mad shanny Feb 2019 #25
Yup SHRED Feb 2019 #29
Too bad she won't get the chance... regnaD kciN Feb 2019 #26
Michael Moore is a self-serving moron quickesst Feb 2019 #27
Uh oh. I guess Bernie Sanders isn't going to be his Valentine this year. betsuni Feb 2019 #30
Moore is terrible at political prognosticating. He needs to stick with movies BluegrassDem Feb 2019 #32
Moore is smoking crack again. beachbum bob Feb 2019 #33
Latest shiny object treestar Feb 2019 #34
I stopped paying attention to Moore a long time ago Gothmog Feb 2019 #35
she is ineligible to run against Trump crazycatlady Feb 2019 #36

Me.

(35,454 posts)
16. She Can Tweet
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:46 AM
Feb 2019

but could/can she withstand the mountain of oppo that will be come down upon her head should she ever decide she's presidential material?

still_one

(92,219 posts)
22. Most of her endorsements in the 2018 primaries against Democratic incumbents sure didn't pan out
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:14 AM
Feb 2019

just saying


Me.

(35,454 posts)
11. He Was Right About Individual 1 Being Put In The WH
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:16 AM
Feb 2019

So now he thinks he is a prophet. He has big problems with his film festival and the way he treats his employees and doesn't pay his bills. Sound familiar?

Aloha Cha....

Cha

(297,306 posts)
13. Wrong about "Romney winning" & Wrong about a lot of things.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:28 AM
Feb 2019

“But I think we have to embrace Trump,” Moore said in the interview. “People reading this will say, ‘What do you mean? Embrace Trump?’ But we have to embrace him. We have to listen to him. He’s telling lies, and he’s telling the truth at the same time"




https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/07/new-film-michael-moore-compares-trump-hitler-hes-not-so-crazy-about-obama-either/?utm_term=.77221405d03e

But, M.Moore also says trump is like "hitler".. so why should we "embrace" someone like hitler? Or the fucking moron?

"In new film, Michael Moore compares Trump to Hitler. And he's not so crazy about Obama, either."

"I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/07/new-film-michael-moore-compares-trump-hitler-hes-not-so-crazy-about-obama-either/?utm_term=.77221405d03e

<Moore continued: “When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered. He was the first black president. OK, not a bad accomplishment. But that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, (it’ll be noted that) he was the first black American that got elected president. And that’s it — eight years of your life and that’s what people will remember.”>

https://nypost.com/2014/09/11/michael-moore-calls-o

Aloha, Me

Me.

(35,454 posts)
15. First Of All I Dispise His Attitude Towards PBO
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:44 AM
Feb 2019

Do you think he's unaware of his racist overtones or as oblivious about that as he is of so much else? Embrace Individual 1 indeed! And now his big idea is that AOC should be our next president. He's one of those people who makes me want to growl.

Cha

(297,306 posts)
18. Moore's quote about Pres Obama only being
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:54 AM
Feb 2019

remembered because he was the first Black President is Blatantly Racist and Absurdly Idiotic.

<Moore continued: “When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered. He was the first black president. OK, not a bad accomplishment. But that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, (it’ll be noted that) he was the first black American that got elected president. And that’s it — eight years of your life and that’s what people will remember.”>

https://nypost.com/2014/09/11/michael-moore-calls-o

He makes my skin crawl.


fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
5. She won't be 29 forever
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:06 AM
Feb 2019

In 6 years she'll be 35.

She could be a strong running for 2024 or 2028.

Of course if she's running against Trump then, we got a whole mess of other problems.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. He made a statement like that because he knows that it will cause people to give him free publicity
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:10 AM
Feb 2019

like you just did.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. He Thinks The Age Should Be Lowered
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:12 AM
Feb 2019

so she can run for president. After all, says he, she is the leader.

I'm still waiting for his apology to Nancy Pelosi.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
14. Publicity hound.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:31 AM
Feb 2019

Always looking for a way to hitch his wagon to others who are connected to his monied base.

I don’t fault him for it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. I think that Michael Moore is a poorly dressing slobby person.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:49 AM
Feb 2019

But in this case, he has a point. AOC and Trump before her and the Brexit campaigners and all of the despotic populists that are being elected worldwide have struck a vein of discontent among populace in many countries. AOC would not have gotten elected if people that voted in the primary in her district did not feel that they are being shortchanged by the system as it is. Trump would not have won Michigan and Wisconsin and come close to winning Minnesota if people that voted for him who are not racist did not feel that they are being shortchanged by the system as it is. It is easy enough to say that only racists or hateful people voted for Trump, but that ignores that some of those people voted for President Obama when he ran on a platform of Hope as changing the system as it was. Brexit was voted in because enough Britains bought into the horseshit that they were being shortchanged.

Until competent leaders figure out where the discontent is coming from (it is clearly economic uncertainty, IMO), then populists will continue to give rosy solutions to tough problems and win races that they should not win.

I watched my mom babysit infants when I was young, a baby would just start crying and would force her to go through a list of things to figure out why the baby was crying. To ward of dangerous populism (in some, but not all cases - for example, I think AOC is right), politician will need to check for a wet or shitty diaper, or check the formula bottle, or figure out whether the baby just need to be fed, or it is tired and need to be rocked to sleep - absent that effort and fixes, populists will continue to gain ground with the simple argument that something is wrong.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
19. What is wrong with him? He is still trying to show he still has revelence, since people have
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:08 AM
Feb 2019

stopped going to his movies.

Of course what you pointed out that she isn't 35, and can't serve as president only puts emphasis on the point I am making that he so craves attention


DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
21. Why doesn't he just team up with Bannon and
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:13 AM
Feb 2019

they can take their dog and pony show on the road and stay off of tv.

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #21)

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
25. c'mon mad
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:17 AM
Feb 2019

it's a hypothetical: he said she could beat rump and he's right. (and why would any of us have a problem with that?)

btw, at the rate that asshole is digging his political grave, a half-sentient dog catcher with a D after his name could beat him. it would be an improvement, bigly.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
26. Too bad she won't get the chance...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:25 AM
Feb 2019

The fact is, by the time AOC can run for president, Trump will be long-gone, one way or another.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
30. Uh oh. I guess Bernie Sanders isn't going to be his Valentine this year.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 02:28 AM
Feb 2019

I see Moore's first comment is blaming Democrats for everything: "We had Democrats in charge for eight years... ." Republicans don't exist! They did not block everything President Obama did! People voted for Trump because of economic anxiety and not racism! Democrats are the ones who do not care!

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
32. Moore is terrible at political prognosticating. He needs to stick with movies
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 05:58 AM
Feb 2019

How many times has he said Dems were gonna get "crushed" the past 15 years or so? I'm so sick of his shtick. I don't know if he's ever picked a Dem to win a single election.

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