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Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:44 PM Dec 2018

I want a WOMAN president OR ELSE! I want a YOUNG president OR ELSE!

Last edited Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:07 PM - Edit history (3)

I for one want Kamala Harris as president and will work very hard for that up until I no longer can if that happens.

At no time however will I say it has to be a man, or it has to be a woman, or it has to be a POC, or it has to be a young person. That attitude helps the KGB and rump and the GOP, not us.


I guess i have to add THE TITLE IS NOT SERIOUS, IT IS MEANT TO SHOW what is WRONG with DEMANDING a woman or POC...

sheesh

i.e. I want ANY democrat NO MATTER WHAT, and if I had my choice, yes it would be Kamala...

That we should NOT demand it be a woman or a POC or any category. That this is KGB inspired division.

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I want a WOMAN president OR ELSE! I want a YOUNG president OR ELSE! (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 OP
Or else I won't vote! Yeah, you're right.... Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #1
I want a Democratic President Soxfan58 Dec 2018 #2
This MiniMe Dec 2018 #4
Shouldn't have to be stated, but it does. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #10
+1 Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #30
Thank you! I am Va Lefty and endorse this post! Va Lefty Dec 2018 #56
Or else what? bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #3
Did you read the whole post? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #6
Generally, it means wryter2000 Dec 2018 #7
Right, they are out there and I am trying to get people to see that. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #9
That division along gender lines will be Putin's new play in 2020 BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #5
Vann? Not familiar with what he did. But the perfect way to fuck over our elections is find out Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #8
He brought up how the top 3 Dems in early polls are white males BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #11
That is why it is genius of putin to use this meme, this time. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #14
Yes it opens up another front for Putin BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #17
Exactly. Will we learn? I dont know, to be honest. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #19
wouldn't that play against trump? pwb Dec 2018 #12
If we argue with each other about who we MUST nominate? No, that helps him or the GOP Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #15
Trump is old. pwb Dec 2018 #16
+1000000, you are so right, ER. Zoonart Dec 2018 #13
I'd settle for one who isn't an unindicted co-conspirator. nt Codeine Dec 2018 #18
"I want X or I'll help the Republicans win!" the Green Party motto Oneironaut Dec 2018 #20
Yes, is what I am pointing out that we DONT want to do. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #35
You don't always get what you want sdfernando Dec 2018 #21
Which was the purpose of my comment. PLEASE read it again Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #36
OH GEES STOP IT. we are not here to bash Democrats. This makes me so sad!! I'm a woman too trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #22
I was DOING THE OPPOSITE, I was pointing out we SHOULD NOT DEMAND one thing Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #37
Some people just have a hard time reading for understanding skylucy Dec 2018 #54
I want tRump's head on a platter, or I won't dance! ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #23
I think a Harris/O'Rourke ticket would be a landslide winning ticket for us. LonePirate Dec 2018 #24
Here here. This hold my breath unless I get what I want talk is exhausting. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #25
Where are you seeing that? Squinch Dec 2018 #42
The MSNBC hosts and contributers are pushing that meme... Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #47
Senator Harris is my first pick, says me - retired guy. Canoe52 Dec 2018 #26
Thanks, mom Bucky Dec 2018 #27
If the Democratic primary is between a woman and a man, I'll choose the woman. Squinch Dec 2018 #28
What I say is mcar Dec 2018 #29
Right...I cant count the number of people here who thought I was saying I demand a woman or Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #38
Wow I guess you want Trump again if this doesn't happen. redstatebluegirl Dec 2018 #31
Jesus, did I not make myself CLEAR Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #34
I agree with Soxfan's post #2 - I want our candidate to win. 3catwoman3 Dec 2018 #32
Yeah, that was my EXACT point. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #39
That was quite clear... 3catwoman3 Dec 2018 #49
Russia urged men not to vote in the midterms NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #33
Exactly. I thought I was pointing out we should NOT succumb to this dividing tactic. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #40
That's how I understood you :) NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #50
The only thing I want is . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #41
SOMETHING NEW. same post for 2 different threads. Let women run everything!!! Stuart G Dec 2018 #43
Count me in, but my point was lets not DEMAND this or that and threaten not to support Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #44
Rec'd. Thanks. DangerousRhythm Dec 2018 #45
We have to figure out who is sincere when they say this, wrong and harmful but sincere Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #46
I highly recommend this post XRubicon Dec 2018 #48
Michelle Obama n/m El Supremo Dec 2018 #51
I don't care who it is just so they're a democrat. blueinredohio Dec 2018 #52
If it's any consolation, I knew what you meant. I agree. nt GemDigger Dec 2018 #53
I want someone who is not a criminal Generic Brad Dec 2018 #55

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
9. Right, they are out there and I am trying to get people to see that.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:51 PM
Dec 2018

And that the KGB will USE that division that already exists to steal another election if they can.

AT this time I think there are very FEW who hold this position, but there will be more after the KGB gets thru with us.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
5. That division along gender lines will be Putin's new play in 2020
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:48 PM
Dec 2018

On Facebook and Twitter etc. You can see it coming from a mile away. We got a preview from Vann Jones this past weekend. Not that Vann is a Putinite, but that kind of media coverage is what Putin would want, not unlike the breathless wall to wall coverage of Hillary’s made up email
Scandal aided Russia’s efforts in 2016. It’s the kind of wedge that’s easy to play off of for bots etc.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
8. Vann? Not familiar with what he did. But the perfect way to fuck over our elections is find out
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:50 PM
Dec 2018

what we are bothered by and then play to that.

Worked beautifully in 2016...If we would all analyze what actually happened in full in 2016, we would be able to see most of this coming.

Hillary still won, but they managed to get a sick, twisted piece of shit close enough to steal.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
11. He brought up how the top 3 Dems in early polls are white males
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:52 PM
Dec 2018

In an interview with Gillibrand. Asked (some might say, suggested) if it was a problem for Dems moving forward.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
14. That is why it is genius of putin to use this meme, this time.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:55 PM
Dec 2018

There will be more, by the way.

They wont ONLY have the male vs female, POC vs white, there will also of course be far left vs left.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
17. Yes it opens up another front for Putin
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:58 PM
Dec 2018

And based on some of the OPs and responses in threads I’ve seen lately, there is a lot of fertile ground for Putin and it’s not even 2019 yet, let alone 2020.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
19. Exactly. Will we learn? I dont know, to be honest.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:02 PM
Dec 2018

It is just the beginning which is scary.

My requirements are simple. Has to be a democrat, has to release tax returns for 5-7 years, not sure how many. Other than that, nothing other than no indicted people I guess.

trueblue2007

(17,138 posts)
22. OH GEES STOP IT. we are not here to bash Democrats. This makes me so sad!! I'm a woman too
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:40 PM
Dec 2018

and i want someone, strong, decent, intelligent .... someone like President Obama. I don't care what their age is, what color their skin or their sex

stop bashing already.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
37. I was DOING THE OPPOSITE, I was pointing out we SHOULD NOT DEMAND one thing
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:04 PM
Dec 2018

i give up, no more OP for me...

not worth it

skylucy

(3,734 posts)
54. Some people just have a hard time reading for understanding
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:00 PM
Dec 2018

don't they Rosewater? Either that or they just get distracted after the first few words!

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
24. I think a Harris/O'Rourke ticket would be a landslide winning ticket for us.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:45 PM
Dec 2018

The same goes for an O’Rourke/Harris ticket. The two of them should work out the tickets and campaign through the primary season together.

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
47. The MSNBC hosts and contributers are pushing that meme...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

specifically Joy Reid's panel on Saturday and Chris Matthews' panel last night. Look for the segment with Jason Johnson. They're saying that if a POC or a woman isn't on the ticket it will (not might), depress turnout. I'm also seeing it among some very prominent twitter users that many here on DU may be familiar with.

If you look up and down this thread you even see it.

Bucky

(53,795 posts)
27. Thanks, mom
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:25 PM
Dec 2018

I was worried about the KGB. What with them not existing for the past 26 years, you never know what they're gonna do next.

Squinch

(50,773 posts)
28. If the Democratic primary is between a woman and a man, I'll choose the woman.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:45 PM
Dec 2018

In the general, of course I'll vote for the Democrat.

I think the 51% of the population who has never been represented in 250 years should be represented.

So sue me.

mcar

(42,210 posts)
29. What I say is
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:14 PM
Dec 2018

all things being equal, I want a woman or POC. I will gladly support the Democratic nominee, whoever she or he may be.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
38. Right...I cant count the number of people here who thought I was saying I demand a woman or
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:05 PM
Dec 2018

POC...wow, remarkable.

I had to edit it, lets see if this continues...sigh

redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
31. Wow I guess you want Trump again if this doesn't happen.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:50 PM
Dec 2018

A majority of voters decide this not you. You can decide not to vote, that is your right, but you will be helping the orange moron win another term.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
34. Jesus, did I not make myself CLEAR
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:01 PM
Dec 2018

Please READ it AGAIN...


At no time however will I say it has to be a man, or it has to be a woman, or it has to be a POC, or it has to be a young person. That attitude helps the KGB and rump and the GOP, not us.


The OP title is pointing out the WRONG in that attitude!

3catwoman3

(23,815 posts)
32. I agree with Soxfan's post #2 - I want our candidate to win.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:59 PM
Dec 2018

The rest is peripheral, as far as I am concerned.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
33. Russia urged men not to vote in the midterms
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:00 PM
Dec 2018

On Rachel last night she highlighted this "campaign" that said men should stay home for the midterms so women could win. Stupid, yes, but look at the targets. I wish I could find a clip, but it was on last night's (12/17) show.

Bottom line: I'll work for whomever I think is best in the primary, and work for the Democratic nominee in the general, whoever that will be. (I haven't picked anyone yet for the primary, and probably won't until people actually declare their candidacy.)

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
41. The only thing I want is . . .
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:12 PM
Dec 2018

a Democratic candidate to beat the daylights out of Trumpski and the Trumpski Party, someone with enough knowledge and experience to help repair the country, starting Day 1.

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
43. SOMETHING NEW. same post for 2 different threads. Let women run everything!!!
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:57 PM
Dec 2018

Lysistrata is a play about women running things. I've been in discussions about this before. Let them give it a try, hell...maybe they will stop all wars. Could they do worse then the men? We already know that Hillary would be so much better than Drump, but let's give the women a chance to run everything..

to see the other thread..hit this link..........

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11564818

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
44. Count me in, but my point was lets not DEMAND this or that and threaten not to support
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:09 PM
Dec 2018

or vote the party if we dont get what we want.

But yes, I would LOVE to see a woman P and VP.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
46. We have to figure out who is sincere when they say this, wrong and harmful but sincere
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:42 PM
Dec 2018

and who is a russian bot or agent or GOP agent, etc.

XRubicon

(2,212 posts)
48. I highly recommend this post
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

People should back their person in the primary, say why they like them and why we should too- not make demands or tear down others for their sex or race.

When the primary is over, we vote for the nominee - period.

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