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watoos

(7,142 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:39 AM Dec 2018

Trump/GOP Tax scam

Last edited Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Tax time will be upon us before we know it. The Treasury department has estimated that there are going to be millions of people who got a return last year but are going to owe money this year.

This also doesn't take into account the millions of people who will still get a refund but it is going to be a lot less than they had been getting.

Trump's tax scam was a, well, scam. People got more money in their pay checks because their employers deducted less taxes. The rich and corporations, on the other hand, made out like bandits, which added 1.5 trillion to our debt.

Millions of hard working people are not going to be happy come April 15th.

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Squinch

(50,773 posts)
1. I work for a living and don't live in a house. I estimate I will pay 3000 more this year.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:55 AM
Dec 2018

It will be a hardship, but I can do it. My heart breaks for all those who don't see it coming and will be slammed by not.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. Sorry, my bad, I did mean refund.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:24 AM
Dec 2018

I'm on Social Security so I have control on how much I had deducted so I will be fine. I feel sorry for people who don't have a clue, who take their 1040EZ forms to a tax preparer. These working folks count on their refunds for various reasons.

I have been filing out a 1040A for several years now, doing it by hand to give someone a job going over my return.

I don't have a clue what is going to happen this year. I have heard that filing one's taxes was made more complicated, certainly won't be able to file on a post card.

c-rational

(2,581 posts)
5. i feel you are correct. A cap on the SALT will leave many on the coasts paying significantly
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:00 AM
Dec 2018

more. And the number of forms to file has exploded exponentially. This was a scam and should be messaged to reflect the Dumpster's illegitimacy and the reThugs complicitness.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
6. Is the new TurboTax and TaxCut software out yet?
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:35 AM
Dec 2018

This will be interesting for us. This has been my first year of retirement and social security, while my wife still works at a good job as a business analyst. I have a feeling we're going to get hammered.

cos dem

(895 posts)
7. The bad news is the scam is still in play.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:42 AM
Dec 2018

When people complain about the increase, they'll just blame it on the new Democratic House. MAGATs are too dumb to realize this was all set in place in the original tax law.

philf99

(238 posts)
8. Deductions and Exemptions
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:03 PM
Dec 2018

When they prepare their 2018 tax returns many Americans are going find many of the deductions they were use to taking are gone. All Americans are going to lose the exemptions they were use to.

I have done a preliminary tax analysis and my taxes are going up.

It may be late but check your withholding's. This was definitely a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans not Joe Sixpack

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. They didn't even have W-4's last year,
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:47 PM
Dec 2018

where people could adjust their withholdings. The employers got guidelines from Treasury I think and simply deducted less taxes from employee's checks.

If you end up having to pay in more this year you will have to go to your employer to have more taxes taken out if you want a refund.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
9. You have been flim flammed
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:11 PM
Dec 2018

To all that thought they were getting a tax break of about $4.00 a week to buy a new car or a new house, guess what, you are fucked. To all you MAGATS, bend over. The orange menace is coming for you.

BSdetect

(8,989 posts)
10. There are many new tax points aimed at small businesses, deductions for tax preparation fees etc etc
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:12 PM
Dec 2018

Hobby businesses that is.

llmart

(15,499 posts)
11. One thing I've been thinking about with regards to eliminating...
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:40 PM
Dec 2018

the deduction for charities is that charities are going to be scrambling for donations. A lot of what they receive is in smaller dollar amounts from middle class people. One of the reasons people do give to charities is they can deduct it. No more.

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
12. Here is the tax scam everyone is about to find out ...
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:43 PM
Dec 2018
People got more money in their pay checks because their employers deducted less taxes.


That extra money you got in your paycheck? It is just a loan.
All that money IS your income tax.

For example, if you made $50,000 last year and paid $10,000 in taxes from your paycheck, your net pay reflected $40,000.
This year you got the same $50,000, but you only paid $5,000 in taxes from your paycheck. You got an extra $5,000 in net pay of $45,000. No doubt you’ve spent that money.

Your tax bill will still be $10,000, because the tax tables did not change, only the deduction algorithm was changed so you could get more money in your paycheck.
That $5,000 you got extra, you’ll have to pay that back on April 15th.
It’s just a loan.

Also for those living in those high rent district states?
You’ll only get to write off your mortgage interest on $750,000
and can only write off up to $10,000 in property taxes.
So if you have a $1,000,000 mortgage, you can’t write off all your mortgage interest.
And if you have that $15,000 in property taxes, you can only write off $10,000.

I mention this because that $5,000 tax bill mentioned above, turns into an $8k to $10k bill.

And if you voted for IQ45, this is what you voted for.
But you’re bringing the rest of us down with you.
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. It gets worse,
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:55 PM
Dec 2018

The tax scam giveaway to corporations and the rich will add 1.5 trillion dollars or more to the debt. I say it may add more because Repugs are counting on 4% GDP or higher to help pay for the tax cuts and that isn't happening.

Right away Repugs are pushing to gash Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid to pay for these tax cuts for the rich. It's amazing how working folks continue to vote against their own best interests.

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