2 more flush their reputations down the toilet

[vlyons]

Gina Haspel overturned the apple cart today, when she testified to a secret congressional committee on the Khashoggi murder.

And now, it's perfectly clear for all too see how much Pompeo and Mattis have slimed themselkves. They have completely trashed their reputations for the benefit of #1-Individual. Some might say that they trashed their reputations long ago -- so there's that. Why can't these Republicans see that #1-Individual is poison, a completely depraved man, who slimes everyone in his orbit. (Never mind, that's a rhetorical question.)

The stupidity and depravity of Republicans in general, and Trump officials in particular is totally fascinating to me. Fascinated in the Buddhist way of "look at what you find repulsive." Over and over and over again, I keep getting these little pearls of wisdom about our governmental poverty of ethics and morality. Everyday, there's another story about government corruption and personal lack of integrity.

And now Wall St is saying, well no, there's really not a deal with China, as WH folks scramble to find an explanation about that. Are these high gov officials really that stupid? (another rhetorical ??). I would be embarrassed to tell lies that are so easily exposed. Wouldn't you be embarrassed to tell such obvious lies? I swear it's a soap opera.

[Kaleva]

1. I think most will give Mattis a pass and his reputation will remain intact.

[vlyons]

2. maybe once

but his "no smoking gun" about implicating MBS in the Khashoggi murder is pretty slimey.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mattis-no-smoking-gun-implicating-saudi-prince-in-khashoggi-killing/

[spanone]

5. Not me. He was down at the border last week saying we need the troops there....

fuck him

[Kaleva]

10. There will be some but I think the majority will give him a pass.

[karynnj]

19. I doubt it

Consider that Colin Powell, far more respected before 2003, had to answer for years about his appearance speaking of weapons of mass destruction at the UN. Mattis, though among the sanest of the Trump people, He also was considered too hawkish by the Obama team.

[leftieNanner]

3. Pompeo never had a reputation to begin with

He has always been a crazy right wing tea bagger. Mattis (like Kelly) thinks he is the only adult in the room and is there to preserve some sense of normalcy (good luck with that bucko!). But every day there is a new outrage and new BS. Every day Trump does or says something hideous. The only benefit for Pompeo is that tomorrow people will have forgotten this.

[ProudLib72]

4. That's exactly what I was thinking

Pompeo has always been slime. I can't to listen to him. Mattis began with somewhat of a reputation, but it's gone into sharp decline.

[Kaleva]

11. I don't see any evidence where Mattis's rep has gone in sharp decline.

[ProudLib72]

13. For me his reputation is in sharp decline

Because he has lent support to certain policies (most recently soldiers at the border) and, mainly, because he has continued to work for the Rump.

[vlyons]

6. Do you find this fascinating?

like some folks watch horror movies? The stupidity of the plot and the actors fascinates me. I think I enjoy feeling smug -- shame on silly me. For me, it's more about knocking hypocrites with feet of clay off their pedestals. After Trump, even the most mediocre POTUS will look fabulous.

Surely their are some GOP senators (besides Flake and Graham), who are royally pissed about Trump's MBS cover-up. Sure the phone lines are red hot.

[leftieNanner]

7. Hate Horror Movies!

On the rare occasion that I am able to dissociate myself from the horror that is Trump, I do find it fascinating. Especially when Rachel can talk me down! The midterm election helped.

I long for a time when we can get through a whole week without thinking about what is going on in Washington DC.

[vlyons]

8. I'm not a horror movie fan either.

I find them silly and boring. However, this Trump depravity has me trying to analyze the stupidity of this Trump thing.

[Hassler]

9. Dotard Donnie's turd touch wins again.

[hibbing]

17. Nice alliteration n/t

[MFGsunny]

12. K & R

[Andy823]

14. This kind of says it all

"Oh! What A Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice To Deceive"

From day one trump has surrounded himself with people who won't really challenge him. If they do they don't last long, as we have seen. They have lied for him, covered up for him and protected him thinking that they could get away with it, hell trump got away with it for years, but now they are going to pay the price. They have deceived the country long enough. Those with half a brain will get out as soon as possible, the rest will go down with trump.

[maddiemom]

23. Amazing that Trump's already taken so many down around him...

and yet he still has sycophants willing to stick their necks out for him when he'll absolutely throw them under the bus.

[pdsimdars]

15. The reason they can't see the slime in Trump, is because it is in them as well and they resonate.

[firstwife]

16. Mattis is the ONLY person

in this administration who I support. I think he is in an extremely delicate position within the admin, and I believe he will do the right things for our country. I’m giving him a pass, so far. But I’m not happy about troops at the border, nor his recent comments on Khashoggi. Hide and watch.

[niyad]

22. on what basis are you giving him a pass?

[Kaleva]

24. I think most of the nation is giving Mattis a pass.

There is almost no discussion about him on this anywhere that I know of other then this thread.

[niyad]

26. that is not answering the question. on what basis are you giving him a pass?

unlike mcmaster, who was active duty, mattis chose to be part of the tangerine tyrant's sick and perverted world. no pass for him.

[Kaleva]

27. Please provide a link to where I said I'm giving Mattis a pass.

I've said a few times that I think most of the nation will give Mattis a pass on this as the OP provides no evidence that a majority or even a significant minority of Americans care about this. Just because, what appears to be a very few in number, do seem to care somewhat doesn't meant that Mattis's reputation is trashed.

[vlyons]

29. What a majority of Americans think about Mattis

does not decide what I think, which is that Mattis knowingly lied about MBS involvement in Khashoggi's murder. Maybe he told himself what he thought were a lot of good reasons for doing so. But that doesn't alter the fact that he lied, that he lied to protect a vicious murderer (MBS), and that he lied to protect a deeply depraved and degenerate Trump.

[Kaleva]

31. This is what you said in your OP

"And now, it's perfectly clear for all too see how much Pompeo and Mattis have slimed themselkves. "

You have provided no evidence that supports that statement. You'd be fine if you phrased it this way:

"And now, it's perfectly clear for me to see how much Pompeo and Mattis have slimed themselves. "

Had you said that, I probably would have made no comment in this thread.

[B Stieg]

18. Reality strikes back!

Yeah!

[kairos12]

20. Drumpt has learned in his life that turmoil he creates never touches him.

That may change now, however.

[Pa-Kid]

21. I would be

embarrassed to tell so many lies, but then I'm not a Republican to whom lying comes naturally

[Haggis for Breakfast]

25. Haspel testified in private closed door session,

But has any wire service reported out on anything she said ?

Not that I think we don't already know what happened, but what more could she have said that required privacy ?

[JI7]

28. Pompeo was always a whore . but Mattis is the one who seems to really be going down

i don't know if it's because there is a real chance he might be fired and he feels like he needs to be there because whoever takes his place would be worse or what...........

[vlyons]

30. Mattis could simply have told the truth

I doubt that Trump would have fired him. The outrage would have been too much. There is such a thing as honor.

[JI7]

32. there wouldn't be much outrage since there is always something worse

that happens and gets attention.

there have already been stories about mattis being one of those he wants out and there wasn't much outrage or any reaction.

[Cha]

33. Well Done, Vlyons! It is beyond surreal..

like the Twilight Zone.. how rabidly Corrupt all these career government types are, who trump chose for his "winning" team.

I wondered how Kaspel would report on Jamaal Khashgoggi to the Congressional Committee.

Thank You!