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samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:06 PM Nov 2018

Ok my blood is boiling today!!!

Last edited Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:50 PM - Edit history (2)

I got a very unpleasant phone call today from my brother who was a former union rep. Now retired from his steel company sold off to Bain capital and voted for Trump. We have been at each other’s throats since his vote for trump. I post things to Facebook and I use both my maiden name and married name on it. My brother is retired and has enough money to live comfortable. Somewhere around 4,000.00’a month income not counting his bank accounts and stocks and such!

Today he asked me to not use my maiden name on Facebook as people ask him about my posts. He goes to Florida all winter his income allows him the pleasure to leave the snow! I went crazy and told him I’m not dropping my maiden name...as I’m proud of being democrat, my posts, and that my mother and father would be proud of me for defending what they taught and believed in. I wonder what his union brothers would think of him? He hates all my posts...and is embarrassed of me using his last name! I told him he’ll no I won’t drop my maiden name or my core beliefs that he somehow forgot!
I can’t help it that his friends are Republicans!

I lost my job, my husband lost his job and we both had to take lower paying jobs and my husband is still paying on a student loan in order to have his mediocre job for way less pay. We lost almost all of our 401k during the Bush years as we were unable to roll ours over as he did during that time. We are both 61 years old and struggle with arthritis because neither of us ever had easy jobs. He on the other hand sat in a crane all day with a good union job. My husband needs knee replacements in both knees and and is still in the weather all day on his feet but this time works for the state a union job just way less pay as he’s only been at it 6 years. I’m mopping floors and cleaning government subsidized housing and the mop weighs more than me!

Hell no Im not going to drop my my maiden name because I embarass his trump supporting umbrella drinking buddies! I hate trump and everything the Republican Party stands for and my Dad taught me from a young age about my vote! Part of him lives on from me!!! My brother is a widower and he can’t live long enough to spend all his money. Maybe he finds delight in watching us struggle. We have never been without work but once in our lives. I was out of work at age20 when I nearly lost my life do to Guillain Barre and collect SS disability for a year or two afterward. So I’ve never really been pain free! We have 5 1/2 more years to go before we can retire.

We have a nice home and much to be thankful for but sadly I can’t have him at my table ever again! Thanksgiving will never be the same!! But asking me to drop my maiden name was truly the last straw! He can go to Flordia in December and stay there with his trumper friends live at his sons house where he fits in.... but for now he lives in Ohio just like me and he’s going to have to deal with the thorn in his side which happens to be his baby sister who is 9 years younger than him and a whole lot smarter! He can’t seem to figure out he’s in the minority!

My parents are turning in ther graves! His last comment was he’s surprised my husband puts up with this. All the money in the world can’t replace morals. He sucks on all counts! Thanks for letting me vent! Can’t take the Blue out of this Ohio girl! Swanson makes a good turkey dinner!

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Ok my blood is boiling today!!! (Original Post) samplegirl Nov 2018 OP
so sorry MFM008 Nov 2018 #1
We can't talk it alway ends up this way! samplegirl Nov 2018 #9
i am so sorry girlfriend. i feel for you, my story is very similar. trueblue2007 Nov 2018 #72
I am always sad to read stories like this. madaboutharry Nov 2018 #2
My parents were both staunch democrats! samplegirl Nov 2018 #10
Hugs to you samplegirl. madaboutharry Nov 2018 #76
well, there WAS a time when families were split. Some chose the Union. Others, the Confederacy. Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #96
Sorry about your brother gratuitous Nov 2018 #3
Tell him to change HIS name to Trump. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #4
Beat me to it!! 😉 LakeArenal Nov 2018 #26
It that I've got mine samplegirl Nov 2018 #68
Sad if true. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #74
Like that idea. About him changing his name. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #90
Stay your course and use whatever name you want. democratisphere Nov 2018 #5
I think I'm to that point but a life long fellow D.U.er and personsal friend is begging me not to as samplegirl Nov 2018 #11
I have nothing to do with my drumpf loving brother and life democratisphere Nov 2018 #12
I tried for years to wait for things to change with my RW evangelical sister. pazzyanne Nov 2018 #54
So glad you held your ground and head high and your health improved! MLAA Nov 2018 #62
You don't have speak to him. And use words. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #92
I'm sorry blue cat Nov 2018 #6
Could there be a much bigger socialist than a union rep? I bet he doesn't like hearing that. brewens Nov 2018 #7
He hated Obama samplegirl Nov 2018 #13
It's a wonder some family will talk to me. I know they saw one exchange I had on FB. brewens Nov 2018 #15
I'm very sorry, samplegirl. Stand your ground, though as your own self-respect is more hlthe2b Nov 2018 #8
Hi samplegirl, Ohiogal Nov 2018 #14
Thanks Ohiogal samplegirl Nov 2018 #20
Almost no one can push our buttons like our siblings. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #16
Thanks Solly samplegirl Nov 2018 #46
Thankfully my sister is on the same page as me, but my mother...85...so sad onlyadream Nov 2018 #17
Simple solution ..ask him to change his last name. Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #18
I refuse to change my name samplegirl Nov 2018 #21
My thought also - seems like the brother is the one on the outs with thegenersl rurallib Nov 2018 #23
excellent reason to not do facebook grantcart Nov 2018 #19
Well you can only imagine🙄 samplegirl Nov 2018 #24
Don't ever change anything about yourself, your name, anything. It's you, period. And if ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #22
Thank you samplegirl Nov 2018 #28
umbrella drinking buddies Farmer-Rick Nov 2018 #25
He's a pathetic rich samplegirl Nov 2018 #30
Is it possible to babylonsister Nov 2018 #27
I'm not blocking him samplegirl Nov 2018 #31
Sorry for you. bluestarone Nov 2018 #29
His wife was the total oppisite. samplegirl Nov 2018 #34
She's SMART!! bluestarone Nov 2018 #39
Me me me!!! samplegirl Nov 2018 #106
Best advice i saw here was tiredtoo Nov 2018 #32
Yes I think that was the best advice samplegirl Nov 2018 #36
You have a right to your name, your life and your truth n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #33
So sorry! Jrsygrl96 Nov 2018 #35
We were all brought up devout Catholics samplegirl Nov 2018 #42
Huh? it's your name too! Did he ever think you may be the one embarrassed sharing it with him ? lunasun Nov 2018 #37
I think I will!!! samplegirl Nov 2018 #43
I avoid talking to both of my brothers Bettie Nov 2018 #38
I'm sorry, Samplegirl Niagara Nov 2018 #40
Toxic is putting it mildly samplegirl Nov 2018 #44
Sorry to hear this . . . however . . . Roadside Attraction Nov 2018 #41
Wow! samplegirl Nov 2018 #45
He's lying to you. pamela Nov 2018 #47
He don't like it that people ask him samplegirl Nov 2018 #64
Your brother has no right to ask you to change your name. Jim__ Nov 2018 #48
One thing you can count on is positive samplegirl Nov 2018 #50
Only a deeply sexist jackass would try to tell a woman what name she can use or sputter Maru Kitteh Nov 2018 #49
He is a sexist but that is the least of samplegirl Nov 2018 #51
Family is way overrated. roody Nov 2018 #52
I hope you post this on Facebook so he can read it. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2018 #53
He was way out of line. littlemissmartypants Nov 2018 #55
He might be able to hurt me even samplegirl Nov 2018 #73
"Piss off" was the only acceptable response to that clod Tarc Nov 2018 #56
Eloquently stated Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #59
He can't ever tell me what to do samplegirl Nov 2018 #65
Sorry. Duppers Nov 2018 #57
Be proud! vishnura Nov 2018 #58
You go samplegirl! Don't take any crap from him or any republican! MLAA Nov 2018 #60
You won girl. You are not dropping your middle name but don't not Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #61
That may work for some people but don't discount the need for some people to part ways r/o BlueInRedHell Nov 2018 #63
Your right. samplegirl Nov 2018 #66
Good on you AND, you were much nicer than I would have been. nt Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #67
Probably so samplegirl Nov 2018 #70
That and a multitude of other things. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #95
Couple of comments... jmbar2 Nov 2018 #69
I won't be eating Swanson samplegirl Nov 2018 #71
I'm so sorry that you have to go thru this shanti Nov 2018 #75
Thank you samplegirl Nov 2018 #80
Why are his Republican buds seeing your posts to begin with? Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #77
I'm not sure he's telling the absolute truth. samplegirl Nov 2018 #82
You make me happy my family is dead. LOL. Vinca Nov 2018 #78
I know your right. samplegirl Nov 2018 #83
hang in there Samplegirl vlyons Nov 2018 #79
It just angers me samplegirl Nov 2018 #84
Anger is poison vlyons Nov 2018 #87
Happy to be the 100th Rec. My PITA will be here for Christmas. IADEMO2004 Nov 2018 #81
As long as I can still come to Thanksgiving. JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #85
You will always have a seat as long as I can still cook! samplegirl Nov 2018 #86
I cant understand why or how a Union member or rep vote INdemo Nov 2018 #88
He doesn't need a union samplegirl Nov 2018 #89
His union is paying his pension. Thank God for unions - someone should tell him demosincebirth Nov 2018 #94
I retired (1999) from the Teamsters union after 40 years - shop steward for 25 years, organizer demosincebirth Nov 2018 #93
I would have asked him to drop HIS last name, because it was embarrassing me. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #91
He does embarrass me samplegirl Nov 2018 #97
That was my immediate thought as well, Honeycombe.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #103
My suggestion, take it or leave it :-) FakeNoose Nov 2018 #98
He told my sister I hate samplegirl Nov 2018 #107
Just might have to! samplegirl Nov 2018 #113
Thanks😌 samplegirl Nov 2018 #116
Continue as you see fit. TNNurse Nov 2018 #99
Too fucking bad for him. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #100
That's exatly how I feel! samplegirl Nov 2018 #108
Tell him he would have to pay you to not use your maiden name. Ilsa Nov 2018 #101
I'd like to samplegirl Nov 2018 #109
Ugh, 9/10ths of my family are Trump puppets. Onyrleft Nov 2018 #102
Now that's a happy Thanksgiving!...... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #104
I did a Mexican Thanksgiving a few years ago. Huevos rancheros for breakfast to Churros for dessert. Lochloosa Nov 2018 #114
I'm so sorry LittleGirl Nov 2018 #105
I'm hurt and I'm samplegirl Nov 2018 #110
That's the thing too LittleGirl Nov 2018 #111
I've never been a samplegirl Nov 2018 #112
i blocked one of my t party sisters ages ago on FB... samnsara Nov 2018 #115
That sucks big time. geardaddy Nov 2018 #117
Your brother. Aw damn, samplegirl. I'm so sorry about your having to go through calimary Nov 2018 #118
Thank you❤️❤️❤️ samplegirl Nov 2018 #119

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
1. so sorry
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:11 PM
Nov 2018

The only thing my brother and I disagree on is who hates the maggot more, me or him....
My sister is more libertarian , so as long as we avoid in-depth conversations about the maggot in chief
were ok.

trueblue2007

(17,194 posts)
72. i am so sorry girlfriend. i feel for you, my story is very similar.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 05:41 PM
Nov 2018

my sister, her husband and her adult children are all TrumpLovers. He does no wrong. He has never led, he has never messed around with other woman .... and he is not a pussy-grabber. That is what they think.

They resent that I can produce the truth that proves him to be an evil "Anti-Christ" like politician. They love him for his "anti-Abortion" stance and a few other things. She thinks he will bring about the Biblical Apocalypse.

I feel sorry for them and can hardly be in the same room as them. I love them dearly but there is usually one outburst every time we get together.

I told hubby if there is a TRUMP/GOP argument, he gets "The look" from me and we are leaving.

We will leave then and go to a restaurant for Thanksgiving dinner. Makes me very say and I wish your life was better. God Bless you and your hubby.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
2. I am always sad to read stories like this.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:11 PM
Nov 2018

There was once a time when family was always family and politics was put to the side. But now it seems that some people, some people who have been sucked into the right wing vortex and Trump world, have undergone personality transformations. The people we knew are no longer there, they have become someone else. I think it is tragic.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
96. well, there WAS a time when families were split. Some chose the Union. Others, the Confederacy.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:22 PM
Nov 2018

Brothers fought brothers in a shooting, dying war.

And before that, there was a time when some were Tories and some were Patriots in the same family. Some fled to Canada, never seeing family again.

So.....this time is not so different.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Sorry about your brother
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:13 PM
Nov 2018

When he makes suggestions for how you should conduct your affairs, give him your best butter-wouldn't-melt-in-my-mouth smile and say politely but firmly, "No."

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Tell him to change HIS name to Trump.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:13 PM
Nov 2018

Sad that a former Union representative could be so ignorant of history, especially the history of GOP hatred for workers and unions.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. Stay your course and use whatever name you want.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:14 PM
Nov 2018

If it was me, I would disown the bastard and never speak to his GD redumbliCON ass again!

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
11. I think I'm to that point but a life long fellow D.U.er and personsal friend is begging me not to as
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:33 PM
Nov 2018

Politics change.... but words don’t.

pazzyanne

(6,544 posts)
54. I tried for years to wait for things to change with my RW evangelical sister.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:38 PM
Nov 2018

They changed, but for the worst. She told me that we could no longer communicate because we have vastly different political views. I kept trying to keep peace in the family. She began sabotaging me with family and friends. She unfriended me on face book, acted as though I was invisible at family events, and had influenced 2 of my brothers to the point that they avoided me as well. By the way, I did not talk politics during this time, but I had the audacity to be diagnosed with a fatal autoimmune disease that she told everyone I was faking. I was having panic attacks until I said "screw this!" and unfriended her. I have been sleeping well, my blood pressure is back to the normal range, and my fatal autoimmune disease is in remission. Both of my brothers have apologized for their behavior and for believing her. I feel much better and more positive. Moral of this story is do what makes you happier and healthier, and do. not. look. back. Best wishes for a happier future for you and your husband.

MLAA

(17,253 posts)
62. So glad you held your ground and head high and your health improved!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 05:06 PM
Nov 2018

All my relatives are evangelical Republicans except my sister. I have cut visits to absolute minimum. Once a year visit to see my elderly dad.

LiberalFighter

(50,795 posts)
92. You don't have speak to him. And use words.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:15 PM
Nov 2018

What you do on Facebook is none of his damn business. He doesn't get to tell you what you can or can't do.

Since he doesn't like what you say on FB there are two options. 1) He can block you so he doesn't see anything from you. 2) You can block him so he doesn't see what you post.

The first, I believe he would still be able to report you to FB for postings that he thinks are not right. I would go with you blocking him so that he is limited to what he could do to you.

Also, unfriend him so you don't receive messages from him. If he wants to talk to you he can use the phone or write a letter.

It is up to him to change his ways and make the effort. And don't worry about him being blood.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
6. I'm sorry
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:14 PM
Nov 2018

I have the same problem with my family. I’m the only liberal and it’s hard. It’s even harder now with trump.

brewens

(13,547 posts)
7. Could there be a much bigger socialist than a union rep? I bet he doesn't like hearing that.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:16 PM
Nov 2018

Worse than socialist back in the early days of the labor movement. A guy like him would have been called a communist by many.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
13. He hated Obama
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:46 PM
Nov 2018

I never told him to change his name! Although I wanted to yank his plate from underneath him at my dining room table and throw the cranberry sauce in his face and tell him I hate cranberry sauce as much as his vile words!

brewens

(13,547 posts)
15. It's a wonder some family will talk to me. I know they saw one exchange I had on FB.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:10 PM
Nov 2018

Someone posted the vid of Trump saying Obama was born in the USA and that's all there is to it.

I piled on and said he basically calls his worshipers dumbshits right to their faces about every day, and the birther crap was the start of it. Look at anything that believed that and what kind of half-wit, racist, human shitstain it is!

I know they saw that. I doubt my brother-in-law or any of the rest of them will dare say a word to me about it. They pretty much know not to mess with me.

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
8. I'm very sorry, samplegirl. Stand your ground, though as your own self-respect is more
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:27 PM
Nov 2018

important for the long term..

I know it is very painful, though. You may well have a lot of company out here with those avoiding holiday conflict with their politically opposed relatives.


PS... just a small favor, but I have trouble reading longer posts without paragraphs... Just my worsening eyesight, I'm sure, but if you could break it up a little, I would really appreciate it.


Ohiogal

(31,928 posts)
14. Hi samplegirl,
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:08 PM
Nov 2018

You live in NE Ohio, if I remember correctly? Me, too.

Nothing made my blood boil more than when my well - off relatives would make mean spirited jokes about Democrats and poor people. You have lots of sympathy here. It's unfortunate how arrogant and bigoted the right wingers have become. I'm sorry your brother treats you like that. We sure are in a dark time in our nation's history right now, but hopefully we'll be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel very soon! I would be proud of you if you were in my family!

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
20. Thanks Ohiogal
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:25 PM
Nov 2018

That means a lot to me. I’m having a sad day even though it’s my day off. I hope in the very near future I can throw this in his face when trump is either impeached, out voted, or lost his mind!

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
16. Almost no one can push our buttons like our siblings.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:15 PM
Nov 2018

And they can be stupid cruel in the doing. Pointless attacks simply to cause pain. Made all the worse when they are so obviously in the wrong but think they're only being honest or reasonable. Downright smug about it.

I'm sorry, samplegirl.


samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
46. Thanks Solly
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:16 PM
Nov 2018

life can be tough... it’s learning how to just roll with it! Some days it gets the best of me.

onlyadream

(2,165 posts)
17. Thankfully my sister is on the same page as me, but my mother...85...so sad
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:18 PM
Nov 2018

She loves Trump.

My only advice is if he EVER brings up politics, put your had up and say you can't discuss this with him (sis and I do this with mom, and she stops). This saves our relationship with her.


As for your posts, really, just block him. Him asking you to change your name is just plain rude.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
18. Simple solution ..ask him to change his last name.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:20 PM
Nov 2018

No one has the right to tell you what your name should be. NO ONE

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
21. I refuse to change my name
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:27 PM
Nov 2018

my parents were Democrats and always voted democrat! My dad and Mom thankfully were able to retire from their jobs!

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
23. My thought also - seems like the brother is the one on the outs with thegenersl
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:28 PM
Nov 2018

family feelings - ergo he should change.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
19. excellent reason to not do facebook
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:21 PM
Nov 2018

why mix religion and politics with family and friends

its a concept I have never grasped.


I talk politics with friends that I know I can have an intelligent conversation with and religion with those that are interested in that kind of thing.


Most of my relatives are of the same mind. I called my niece to congratulate her on working for Tester and asked her what her husband thought and she said she didn't know who he voted for.

By the way she is the main bread winner and her husband works from home and takes care of the kids during the day.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
22. Don't ever change anything about yourself, your name, anything. It's you, period. And if ...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:27 PM
Nov 2018

family/brother/etc. can't handle it, that's their problem, not yours. After all, why are they reading your comments etc. if they are so opposed to it? Obviously you're hitting a button there. Too bad for him. Like a TV, he can skip over the remarks and move on, but obviously he can't. Again, too bad.

Stay the course, be yourself, and let DU and others know you as you really are. One in a million, and a jewel in the dark.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
28. Thank you
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:30 PM
Nov 2018

I never post on his wall he told me I was fucking crazy one time! He can block my posts if he don’t want to read them it’s just that simple!

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
25. umbrella drinking buddies
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:29 PM
Nov 2018

I hope they choke on those tiny umbrellas.

My oldest brother is the only one in our family of 6 brothers and sisters that votes Trump. He keeps it to himself. Though he has his fancy Florida buddies too.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
30. He's a pathetic rich
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:33 PM
Nov 2018

Disgruntled old shit! He won’t even take his Cadillac out of the garage if it rains! I hope he moves to Florida!

babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
27. Is it possible to
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:29 PM
Nov 2018

block or unfriend him? I have two rethug brothers. We don't know what the others post because we are not friends. If I need to get in touch I can IM or e-mail them.

My blood pressure in relation to them does not spike.

Seems like a very immature request from him, also seems condescending. I totally understand your reaction.

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
29. Sorry for you.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:30 PM
Nov 2018

My family the same way. BUT if RUMP gets his way your brother AND my family will be ONE MEDICAL emergency away from being BROKE!!!! Wait and see! ( I hope not though, as i DO NOT wish this on anybody).

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
39. She's SMART!!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:41 PM
Nov 2018

By the way i'm sure the union got him everything (MONEY, INCOME) and NOW he shits on the union!!! I hate those type people!!!

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
32. Best advice i saw here was
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:34 PM
Nov 2018

Tell him to change his name. You hang tough young lady, you make me proud to be here with you and others like you.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
36. Yes I think that was the best advice
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:38 PM
Nov 2018

I’ve read as well!!! He said he’s affraid I will get my house spray painted. Lol!!! His golfing buddies are a bunch of sorry ilk just like trump!

Jrsygrl96

(110 posts)
35. So sorry!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:37 PM
Nov 2018

We are a union family. I cannot understand how any union person can be a Republican! He probably knows 45 used union help in New York City--then didn't pay them!!! The contractors didn't have money to sue, or 45 would threaten to sue them for unsatisfactory work!!! He is a despicable, soulless, pile of pure greed and immorality.

I am fortunate my family all vote democratic so holidays are fine. However, I am a devout Catholic and EVERY single Catholic I know voted for Agent Orange. Many of my friends think he was sent by God! I just got back from a trip to Ohio to see an old college buddy and talk to friends of hers who are Catholic Democrats. I wanted validation because I feel so alone, but my friend tricked me. Her friends voted for 45!!!!! I was so let down.

Don't dare change your name or anything about you!!! Your parents taught you right. Your brother is under the spell of the Antichrist and his Cult 45!!!!!

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
42. We were all brought up devout Catholics
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:55 PM
Nov 2018

My sister, by brother and me all attended Catholic schools and my poor mother worked full time in the hospital to pay tuition for us. I was the youngest and fought not to go to Catholic high school and won! He still goes to mass on Sunday and my sister but I’m not practicing any longer only because I hated the politics in the school system and church. If your a big time business owner you get your name plastered on a private parking space and plagues about all you donated. I couldn’t stand the special treatment the “smell me donaters get”!
Catholic church has changed liked everything else!

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
37. Huh? it's your name too! Did he ever think you may be the one embarrassed sharing it with him ?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:40 PM
Nov 2018

Creepy thing for a brother to bring up
I don't use FB but can you add to your profile -Brother of ***(his first name)..?

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
38. I avoid talking to both of my brothers
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:40 PM
Nov 2018

because they are right wing nutjobs.

Sorry to hear about yours.

My husband lost his job several years ago as well. He got a new one that pays much less than his previous job. Meanwhile, all of his Trump loving sisters and brothers are able to go on vacations, buy second and third houses, and all that. We're younger than them and didn't have time to be established before the economy changed.

I guess this is my long-winded way of saying, I get where you're coming from.

Niagara

(7,566 posts)
40. I'm sorry, Samplegirl
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:41 PM
Nov 2018

You do not have to deal with toxic people no matter if they're family or not.

Your health is more important and dealing with a toxic family member that stresses you out can take a toll on your health.

I wish you well!

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
44. Toxic is putting it mildly
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:59 PM
Nov 2018

This guy use to lock his Halloween candy up in a toolbox when he was a kid in order to keep his siblings from taking a piece!

 
41. Sorry to hear this . . . however . . .
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:42 PM
Nov 2018

You can choose your friends. You can't choose your family.

We have twins, son and daughter.

Daughter is a single lady, partner in a DC law firm, on several charitable and corporate boards, friend to all.

Son is divorced, left our daughter-in-law (I hate that term and I introduce her as my daughter) and two grandsons. The divorce came after he was charged with possession of child porn, carnal knowledge of a minor, and two similar counts. Turns out, he was getting it on with a 15-yr-old, a 17-yr-old, and a 19-yr-old at his work -- we found his hidden camera with over 400 interesting photos.

He's a rightwing nut, Fox addict, Trump voter, proto-Nazi, and all around asshole. The only reason he no longer owns a houseful of firearms is his felony conviction. He went berserk when I told him I had found all his weapons and ammo, sold the guns, gave away the ammo.

We finally cut him off. We lives two states away; we hear from him once a year when he sends his sister a Christmas card.

Most terrible thing we ever went through, still, sometimes you have to walk away.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
47. He's lying to you.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:17 PM
Nov 2018

His friends aren't asking him about your posts. They aren't seeing them at all unless you're also friends with them or you are tagging him. Fucker's lying.

Jim__

(14,063 posts)
48. Your brother has no right to ask you to change your name.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:18 PM
Nov 2018

If having you as a sister embarrasses him to his friends, he needs to find better friends.

Maru Kitteh

(28,323 posts)
49. Only a deeply sexist jackass would try to tell a woman what name she can use or sputter
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:20 PM
Nov 2018

similar tripe about a husband "putting up with" or "tolerating" a woman who dares to express her humanity and self as she sees fit.

littlemissmartypants

(22,595 posts)
55. He was way out of line.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:41 PM
Nov 2018

He must have a lot of nerve or be a bully. You are a grown woman, for pete's sake! It's also absurd that he thinks you are interested in being bossed around. Stick to your guns. Don't let his weak mindedness interfere with your right to be you. I hope your day improved after venting. Sometimes we have to let off steam and you are perfectly welcome to that. I hope you have a good Thanksgiving.

Tarc

(10,475 posts)
56. "Piss off" was the only acceptable response to that clod
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:42 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)

You did good.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
57. Sorry.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:44 PM
Nov 2018

I spent most of the last 30yrs not speaking to my 2 siblings. No regrets. I've no tolerance for irrational people.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
61. You won girl. You are not dropping your middle name but don't not
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 05:05 PM
Nov 2018

Invite him. Although he was an ass to ask you he is still your brother. It could cause a much deeper rift you can never repear.

My two cents.... Laugh it off like he's off his rocker. I find people hate being laughed at more than they hate being yelled at

BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
63. That may work for some people but don't discount the need for some people to part ways r/o
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 05:10 PM
Nov 2018

permanently. My husband's family was so politically toxic, that we parted ways before Bush even left the White House and it was *the* only way. We've been a lot healthier, too.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
70. Probably so
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 05:32 PM
Nov 2018

As a fellow D.U.er pointed out....He has his lifestyle do to a good paying union job! Now he votes against us!

jmbar2

(4,865 posts)
69. Couple of comments...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 05:24 PM
Nov 2018

Sorry about the ugliness. I refused from day one to get on Facebook, and I am so glad to have stayed off. So many people have fallen out on it. I am oblivious to what they say--sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Also - you can apply for reduced or income-based payments on your student loans. If you qualify, you just recertify each year. It doesn't make sense to starve yourself to pay it if you don't have the income. Just be diligent about reapplying so that you don't go into default. That will screw up your credit report and possibly even future social security.

Good luck on Thanksgiving. Even if it is Swanson's.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
75. I'm so sorry that you have to go thru this
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:38 PM
Nov 2018
I'm going thru the same thing with my oldest son, who loves him some Chump. My other three sons are apolitical (not a good thing in itself, imo), but they aren't Trump-humpers, so we're ok. DS has 3 of my 4 grands however, so I have to find a way to relate to him if I want to see the kids. At the moment, we aren't communicating.

Both of my sibs are diehard Dems, just like we were raised by Mom and Dad. However, all of the rest of my extended family are Reps.

I hope you have an enjoyable Thanksgiving anyway!

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
80. Thank you
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:49 PM
Nov 2018

Same to you. It’s hard just trying to figure it out when we all were raised with the same values. It makes me feel like he lost all respect for my Mom and Dad. I guess money trumps everything!

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
77. Why are his Republican buds seeing your posts to begin with?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:44 PM
Nov 2018

Seems like they wouldn't unless you are also friends with them or you are tagging your brother in your posts or you are making public posts.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
82. I'm not sure he's telling the absolute truth.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:52 PM
Nov 2018

But yes we have a few mutual friends but the ones that are mutual are democrats. I would be hard pressed to find any Republican friends especially on fb.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
78. You make me happy my family is dead. LOL.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:47 PM
Nov 2018

I never bought into the whole family getting together on the holidays routine when the entire rest of the year they can't stand each other. Forget about him and enjoy a pleasant, peaceful day with your husband.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
83. I know your right.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:55 PM
Nov 2018

I still should be free to post on my Facebook whatever I see fit! I don’t share it with him...so it’s none of his business in the first place!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
79. hang in there Samplegirl
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:48 PM
Nov 2018

No one can tell you what to do but you. You get to decide what's best for you. Just laugh at your brother's request and tell him what a silly ol' thing he is. Don't let his his selfishness darken you mood or ruin your day.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
84. It just angers me
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:58 PM
Nov 2018

that he has no concept about anyone else’s livelihood or the worries about even seeing S.S. He made his money and unions helped him to keep his job and retire from it!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
87. Anger is poison
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:43 PM
Nov 2018

Anger will not make you happy or give you peace of mind. Do your best to calm down and level out emotionally. You cannot change your brother, or anyone for that matter, to live up to your expectations. We can only change ourselves. If we don't control our negative emotions, they will control us.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
85. As long as I can still come to Thanksgiving.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:59 PM
Nov 2018

...but if he's not coming, does that mean I'll be the one to make you scream? At least the stupid shit he said took attention away from me.

hahaha

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
86. You will always have a seat as long as I can still cook!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:03 PM
Nov 2018

Just don’t make me scream! ❤️ Oh and call me by maiden name from now on. When you see him out make sure you let everyone know I’m his sister! 😡

demosincebirth

(12,530 posts)
93. I retired (1999) from the Teamsters union after 40 years - shop steward for 25 years, organizer
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:48 PM
Nov 2018

off and on for 15 years. I have met many teamsters who, despite their good wages and benefits, have continued to vote republican in every election. My conclusion, after all these years is that they have ingrained ideas that they hate to see , hear or read about people getting welfare, or any kind of help regardless of their situation. Mostly, I think it's an ingrained racism which mostly all deny. They are ignorant about History and mostly about the history of the Labor movement in this country.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
103. That was my immediate thought as well, Honeycombe....
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:39 AM
Nov 2018

and suggest he do it in honor of their Democratic Party loving parents!.......

And, suggest the surname Trump is available for a small fee.....

FakeNoose

(32,599 posts)
98. My suggestion, take it or leave it :-)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:42 PM
Nov 2018

Hi SampleGirl, I feel your pain and I understand how politics can cause a rift in families.

If you really want to stick it to your brother, here's a suggestion. Make your sign-off on your Facebook page say something like this: "Yes I'm [sample girl] and my brother is [real name]. We grew up together but we don't share political views. You can let him know you saw this."

Of course if you do this, your brother will probably never forgive you!

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
107. He told my sister I hate
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:55 AM
Nov 2018

him. Hate is strong words. I try not to hate anyone because it does you no good. At a time in our life when we need each other it’s really sad that someone who could give two shits about him like trump could ruin families. I save my hate for Trump!!!!It does me no good either but it can’t be helped!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
100. Too fucking bad for him.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:07 PM
Nov 2018

Personally, I don't think women should change their last name when they got married, not if the person they marry doesn't also change the last name.

I actually resent being asked if "Oglethorpe" is my maiden name. Its the surname on my birth certificate. Let's start asking men what their bachelor name was.

Onyrleft

(344 posts)
102. Ugh, 9/10ths of my family are Trump puppets.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:39 PM
Nov 2018

You know what else? I hate fucking turkey. Why couldn't Ben Franklin have gotten a hardon for goose or duck? I'm just gonna fill a crockpot with wings Wednesday night, cook sweet potatoes and a peach pie the next morning and enjoy TV and bourbon all day Thursday.

Lochloosa

(16,061 posts)
114. I did a Mexican Thanksgiving a few years ago. Huevos rancheros for breakfast to Churros for dessert.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:32 AM
Nov 2018

Everyone LOVED it and no one missed the Turkey.

We are having a good grilled steak with all the trimmings this year.

Screw the turkey.

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
105. I'm so sorry
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:36 AM
Nov 2018

about your brother. I have a brother and a sister like that.

My sister had a stroke a few weeks ago and is in FL too. She's going to survive but it's going to be a long recovery and I can't even call to wish her well. Her daughters have kept us up-to-date on her progress and she left ICU yesterday. But she was a raving lunatic against liberals and I had to unfriend her years ago. The only way to keep in touch with my 86 yr old mother is through facebook and calling since we left the states.

I know how it goes. Hugs.

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
111. That's the thing too
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:19 AM
Nov 2018

They don't understand how their way of thinking affects us all.

My family was in a serious mess during the Obama years. One of my brothers lives about 100 miles from my Mother and when Obama got re-elected in 2012, he simply stopped calling her. Said that he didn't want to talk to her. And didn't for nearly 4 yrs. I don't know what made him change but my Mother was destroyed by his silence. Every time his name came up, she'd cry and my other liberal brother wanted to hunt down my brother and kill him for what he did to our Mother. He will never forgive him but I have and my mother has and my hateful brother speaks to Mom every week again. It's pathetic how this separated my family. My oldest brother died in Sept and they had a memorial service (which I couldn't attend because I'm abroad) and I called my liberal brother that day and asked him if he was going to beat up our brother. He said, the memorial is on Mother's 86th birthday so he will live another day but he would not speak to him unless spoken to first. I can only imagine the tension in that room.

We never discussed politics growing up and I wasn't active until 2006 when Obama came on the scene. He was the first one I voted for since Carter lost to Reagan. I had to ask my mother which way she voted. She's a solid Dem. Dad died in '75 so I'll never know how he voted.

samplegirl

(11,465 posts)
112. I've never been a
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:28 AM
Nov 2018

big poster on D.U. but I’ve been here what seems like forever. 14 years coming up here soon! But read here daily for all those years. I’ve never been on a plane, train or had a vacation since I was eighteen. I took care of my Mom for ten years in my home. I would think he would hope that when we retire we could afford to do something besides sit home and watch tv. He’s been everywhere! But he only thinks of himself and his vote proved it!

Anyway no one can take my hurt or troubles but it’s good and it’s also reassuring that the people in D.U. support each other whenever we can! Thank you everyone.

samnsara

(17,606 posts)
115. i blocked one of my t party sisters ages ago on FB...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:34 AM
Nov 2018

..I figured I would do her a favor by keeping her BP low

calimary

(81,127 posts)
118. Your brother. Aw damn, samplegirl. I'm so sorry about your having to go through
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:25 PM
Nov 2018

something like this. And with your brother, no less. And with the holidays coming up fast (although this is hard to deal with, ANY day or season of the year).



And btw - There's nothing wrong with YOUR name - and YOU'RE the one to decide what it should be. Why shouldn't it be your call anyway? YOU decide what to call yourself. NOT somebody else deciding. Now, you can certainly decide to concede the point on any argument, of course. As long as it's YOUR choice to do so, that is.

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