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What the hell is wrong with these people? (Original Post) Soph0571 Sep 2018 OP
Information about the cop is sealed. safeinOhio Sep 2018 #1
Who cares if he smoked weed? leftyladyfrommo Sep 2018 #15
Yeah, really and I bet most people don't, either. Stupid to even try that SammyWinstonJack Sep 2018 #17
I'll tell you what's wrong with them. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2018 #2
Kick x a billion. n/t tazkcmo Sep 2018 #4
She isn't a woman cop, she is a cop obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #5
OK, fine. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2018 #6
Cop is fine -- no need to gender it obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #33
Yes! And male nurse. I hate this too. Croney Sep 2018 #8
And "guyrarian" obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #32
She is a WHITE cop HopeAgain Sep 2018 #10
EXACTLY! obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #34
Good point. I agree. No one is ever described "male cop". marble falls Sep 2018 #14
"after making a mistake that literally NO SOBER PERSON MAKES. " LakeSuperiorView Sep 2018 #18
+1, I have too, just never thought shooting something up for my mistake uponit7771 Sep 2018 #38
Until snowybirdie Sep 2018 #26
Remember the old bumper sticker thucythucy Sep 2018 #29
I agree that the cop in this situation was horrendously out of line, and should be removed. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #27
She's unfit to be an elevator operator dalton99a Sep 2018 #35
You know what else was found in his home? An unauthorized off duty cop with a quick trigger finger Cha Sep 2018 #43
My ex was a cop and used to say, safeinOhio Sep 2018 #36
Your statement about cops is a crock of shit. Persondem Sep 2018 #45
Doesn't matter if he was actively smoking a joint SimpleC Sep 2018 #3
They found some pot. How shocking. Didn't know a search Hortensis Sep 2018 #7
Well, since we're on the subject of controlled substances Fritz Walter Sep 2018 #9
I read somewhere that the cops waited to do her blood test until they were sure she was clean. dhol82 Sep 2018 #12
I keep saying, White cop, Black victim, State of Texas HopeAgain Sep 2018 #11
I read an article watoos Sep 2018 #13
Is this normal procedure? Is there something missing in this story? Hav Sep 2018 #16
Yes, it is very normal for the police to demonize their victims. joshcryer Sep 2018 #23
Normal procedure to plant evidence HopeAgain Sep 2018 #37
what's wrong? turn on any asshole with a talk radio show and at the very certainot Sep 2018 #19
Why a search warrant for his apartment and not hers? His was the scene sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #20
Do The Even Need A Warrant. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #22
They wouldn't, but because they need to exonerate the murderer... joshcryer Sep 2018 #24
Yep, I Agree Completely ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #25
Standard police procedure. Nitram Sep 2018 #21
And the "drop gun," an unregistered firearm w/no serial number. VOX Sep 2018 #28
I think the drop gun is a more advanced technique, not "standard." Nitram Sep 2018 #30
The video-clip of his 'searched apartment' made it look like he was slovenly ... Donkees Sep 2018 #31
Thanks for the link to the video csziggy Sep 2018 #44
The video report states that the cop had no mat at her door. Amber Guyger first reported that ... Donkees Sep 2018 #46
Well, that changes everything. maxsolomon Sep 2018 #39
What did they find in her apartment? lame54 Sep 2018 #40
Pissers. i can imagine the disgust and Cha Sep 2018 #41
Patton Oswalt tweet.. Cha Sep 2018 #42

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
1. Information about the cop is sealed.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:58 AM
Sep 2018

Yet, a small amount of weed, that might have been planted is information that is given to the press.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
2. I'll tell you what's wrong with them.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:03 AM
Sep 2018

They're fucking cowards. They will very often do ANYTHING to protect one of their own, no matter how egregious the crime.

The fact that the woman cop is so damned stupid as to not know which floor her apartment is on should be a clue that she might not be fit to be a police officer, but nooooo.... She was OBVIOUSLY in the right to shoot the guy after making a mistake that literally NO SOBER PERSON MAKES.

They will muddy the waters as much as they can. "Yeah, she shot him, but he was a damned criminal anyway, so no great loss."


Fucking assholes.



obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
5. She isn't a woman cop, she is a cop
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:14 AM
Sep 2018

I keep seeing people on DU say she is a female cop, a lady cop, a woman cop. She is a cop.

The lady judge, the woman CEO, the female lawyer, the lady firefighter., the woman whatever. UGH.

Sorry, it is driving me crazy.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
18. "after making a mistake that literally NO SOBER PERSON MAKES. "
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:11 AM
Sep 2018

I have to disagree on this one point. I walked into my downstairs neighbor's apartment by mistake. It was after a long day at work, I was tired and walked up one less flight of stairs than I should have. Door was unlocked, not surprising since my roommate always got home before I did. Two steps in the door, and I could see that the living room furniture was all different. I was back in the stairwell before I knew it. No alcohol involved.

In no way does this excuse what she did, but it is entirely possible to wind up on the wrong floor, by accident, with no alcohol or drugs involved. Perhaps if one has never lived in a multistory apartment building, it is hard to imagine winding up on the wrong floor, but generally all the floors look the same. She should have noticed the red floor mat that he had in front of his door, but didn't. she screwed up big time, but being on the wrong floor happens.

thucythucy

(8,067 posts)
29. Remember the old bumper sticker
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:31 AM
Sep 2018

"If you think cops are pigs, next time you need help call a hippie"?

Well, EVERY TIME I've ever needed help, and the cops responded, I would have been better off calling the hippies.

This most definitely includes the time I was raped. The cops in that instance were absolute jerks. A group of hippies could only have been better.

Edited to add: This in no way includes the fine people I've encountered in our fire departments. Maybe it's the fact that they don't carry guns, but much less swaggering, far more helpful.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
27. I agree that the cop in this situation was horrendously out of line, and should be removed.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:18 AM
Sep 2018

But to say that all cops are bad and there's no such thing as a good cop is extremely offbase.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
36. My ex was a cop and used to say,
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:19 AM
Sep 2018

"I'm a member of the biggest gang in the country, f**k with one of us and you f**k with all of us".
Also, "who's going to arrest me, I'm a cop."

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
45. Your statement about cops is a crock of shit.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:06 PM
Sep 2018

I have known many good cops. And you are just as ignorant as the bad cops.

 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
3. Doesn't matter if he was actively smoking a joint
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:03 AM
Sep 2018

This particular case I'm following and waiting to hear the eventual fallout. If this truly was nothing more then a tragic accident, manslaughter is appropriate.

Either way, the officer's career is toast, as it should be.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. They found some pot. How shocking. Didn't know a search
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:16 AM
Sep 2018

warrant was needed for the scene of a murder, and still don't, but I wouldn't get excited about that. Now, if they didn't investigate thoroughly...

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
9. Well, since we're on the subject of controlled substances
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:35 AM
Sep 2018

What are the results of the defendant’s blood tests?

If authorities can leak this tidbit, let’s hear about the rest of it!

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
12. I read somewhere that the cops waited to do her blood test until they were sure she was clean.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:59 AM
Sep 2018

No links, just a passing comment.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. I read an article
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:09 AM
Sep 2018

a couple of years ago that claimed that White Supremacists were becoming police officers at an alarming rate.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
16. Is this normal procedure? Is there something missing in this story?
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:36 AM
Sep 2018

Why the need for a search warrant for the shot victim who did nothing wrong, as far as one can tell? Why would it matter that they found this? At best, the cop showed up there by accident and shot him because of a lack of composure, bad nerves or incompetence.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
19. what's wrong? turn on any asshole with a talk radio show and at the very
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:29 AM
Sep 2018

least they're very loud in blaming the victim vs the cop (limbaugh taught them well during the trayvon martin and mike brown events) while using their megaphone to fight community legislative efforts to raise educational standards etc

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
20. Why a search warrant for his apartment and not hers? His was the scene
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:29 AM
Sep 2018

of the crime: murder. Shouldn't they have gotten a warrant to search the "suspect's" home? This is so screwed up from a normal crime.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
22. Do The Even Need A Warrant. . .
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:38 AM
Sep 2018

. . . to investigate the actual scene of a crime?

Not saying i know an answer. Asking a question.

But, it seems odd that they would need a warrant when it's already an active crime scene.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
24. They wouldn't, but because they need to exonerate the murderer...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:56 AM
Sep 2018

...they made sure to cross every T and dot every I.

And then they leaked this unnecessary and irrelevant detail about his private life in order to poison the jury pool. Any competent judge would strike down any mention of his marijuana usage or possession.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
25. Yep, I Agree Completely
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:09 AM
Sep 2018

They got a warrant they didn't even need to make the smear more realistic.

Insult to injury

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. And the "drop gun," an unregistered firearm w/no serial number.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:24 AM
Sep 2018

Kill your suspect, drop that print-free junker near the corpse.

“The suspect brandished a loaded firearm, pointed it directly at the officer, who was compelled to defend himself. Next question.”

Nitram

(22,811 posts)
30. I think the drop gun is a more advanced technique, not "standard."
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:33 AM
Sep 2018

A little risky to be carrying a drop gun everyplace you go. Probably those more likely to shoot first and ask questions later carry a drop gun.

Donkees

(31,413 posts)
31. The video-clip of his 'searched apartment' made it look like he was slovenly ...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:43 AM
Sep 2018

Video at link:

''It’s a typical bachelor’s apartment, complete with a leather sofa piled high with odds and ends. There's a bowl of cereal on the ottoman and a lone flip-flop on the floor.''

https://www.insideedition.com/haunting-images-show-texas-apartment-where-dallas-police-officer-opened-fire-resident-46771

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
44. Thanks for the link to the video
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:08 PM
Sep 2018

One thing that has stood out to me with the video following the shooting - the cop still has her gun. Shouldn't her gun have been taken from her during the investigation?

And I appreciate that this video shows the differences between the two floors and that Mr. Jean had a red door mat while the cop had no door mat. I'd been wondering if the cop had a similar door mat at her door since the first reports showed his.

Donkees

(31,413 posts)
46. The video report states that the cop had no mat at her door. Amber Guyger first reported that ...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:30 AM
Sep 2018

she didn't notice the red mat because she was holding items in her arms, then had to set them down on the floor (?)

I don't know why the news showed the mess in his 'searched apartment', since his family might have piled up his clothing for removal or when selecting an outfit for his funeral, sorting through his personal belongings, etc. It seems disrespectful of his family's privacy.

Have read reports that Amber Guyger has hired a public relations firm to help build a positive image of her 'accomplishments' (?)

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
39. Well, that changes everything.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 01:29 PM
Sep 2018

That's a SCHEDULE ONE NARCOTIC.



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