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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Super Fantastic Hilariously Absurd Part of Trump's ignorance of all things related to the law
In my family I have siblings and a niece that are attorneys.
Their jobs have included family attorneys, corporate counsel, prosecuting attorney, judge and lecturer at a respected law university.
When we are at family events we talk about interesting cases and even the non lawyers have developed a good appreciation of how the law and the courts work and you better stay "on point" or you will be ruled out of order and have to buy the next round.
When anyone has a minor legal issue multiple phone calls are made, theories established, mock courts, etc.
After years of no traffic tickets I got one and after a dozen calls and a seminar on how to question a police officer about his radar gun, and checking all of the minute SOP requirements to keep current and how to ask for the official calibration log for the instrument I showed up for court prepared for a thorough defense including question whether or not the office got the correct legal speed right because where he wrote the ticket and where he saw me . . . and so on.
The officer didn't show.
In any case the point is when you have family that have decades in the law you have a resource to make sure that you stay within the boundaries to pursue your legal interest and don't talk like an idiot about the law and the courts.
Here is the funny part:
Meet Judge Barry, Trump's older sister:
Barry served as an Assistant United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey from 1974 to 1983. She served in the civil division from 1974 to 1975. She served in the appeals division from 1976 to 1982, serving as deputy chief of that division from 1976 to 1977 and chief of that division from 1977 to 1982. She served as Executive Assistant United States Attorney from 1981 to 1982. She served as First Assistant United States Attorney from 1981 to 1983.[1]
She was nominated by Reagan to the Court and then later by Clinton to the Appeals court.
She achieved Senior Status.
She appears to be a competent judge with no outstanding political bias.
Trump is facing federal, state and local criminal prosecution. He is facing massive civil lawsuits from both governmental institutions and lots of individuals, including from previous staff from The Apprentice.
In November a new Congress is going to launch dozens of investigations that will open him up to massive exposure for both criminal and civil litigation.
And yet he talks about cases and the law in general like Barney Fife in Mayberry.
I am guessing that Judge Barry has given up trying to clue her younger brother in on how the law and the courts actually work.
If you look at the Trump Family Wikipedia page you will find that she has, by far, the least amount of information, a single sentence.
I am betting that Trump doesn't listen to her because "she is a girl" (she is 80).
Judge Barry has one child. Her son also is in a profession that would assist Trump. Trump's nephew is a psychologist.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)to nominate Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. Don't think I can throw too much respect in her direction.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Barry weighed in for her co judge on the court of appeals
Moreover she appears to be for a women's right to choose and would seem not to be in Gorsuch's orbit philosophically.
was attacked by Sen. Ted Cruz during the 2016 primaries as a radical pro-abortion extremist is among the presidents judicial counselors makes some Republicans nervous. Even if theyre happy with the finalists he is currently considering, they dont view her as a reliably conservative judge.
Cha
(297,722 posts)correction. She does seem to have a working brain and not possess the evil that encapsulates her brother.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)1) Judge Barry lobbied for her co Judge Hardiman
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-supreme-court-pick-234202
Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, who serves with Hardiman on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, has spoken to her brother in favor of elevating him to the high court, according to two people familiar with the conversations.
. . .
Maryanne is high on Hardiman, said one adviser who has spoken directly with the president about the matter.
.. ..
People familiar with the search process have said that Hardiman, 51, and Gorsuch, 49, have emerged as the front-runners to replace the late Justice Antonin Scalia, with Pryors chances fading in recent weeks due to opposition from the evangelical community. Trump has said he plans to announce his choice next week.
A second Trump adviser said that while Barry has unquestionably backed Hardiman, her support has not been determinative: I dont think it is fair to say the only reason hes got juice on the list is because of her.
2) More to the point Gorsuch was the number one choice by the Federalist Society and they lobbied very hard for him.
Cha
(297,722 posts)that family. I do remember reading awhile ago that his sister was a judge.. shocking!
Thanks, grant.
elleng
(131,140 posts)first, reminded me of my family, sadly Dad and cousin, both attorneys, are dead, so no more great discussions at home; luckily, my brother's still around (but not close, as travels extensively due to HIS lawyerly job.)
trump doesn't listen to her, I suspect, NOT because she's a 'girl,' but he doesn't have the same capability as she does. (My brother and I both got it, but I don't think that's true of the trumps.)
grantcart
(53,061 posts)but she went as far away as she could and established herself prominently on her own work.
And pointedly didn't take the Trump name with her.
elleng
(131,140 posts)may have noticed the 'family business' too shady.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)do with him. Are there any books out there that get into the Trump family dynamics? I think it would be something worth looking into. The people who know him the best seem to avoid him like the plague. I wonder why?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)You have to wonder when one son is sent away at 13 and the other develops a fatal dependency addiction what the father was like on the sons.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Unfortunately, I think his brother took on the role of carrying the shame of the family and it killed him. It seems like he was the only one with a conscience. Trump is a sociopath and I think he was born evil.
I would love to read about the real family dynamics of the Trump family. Something was very, very wrong in that family. It's like they all compensated for their brother's sickness and felt like they had to atone for his sins.
PatSeg
(47,613 posts)about Donald awhile back. Basically she said he was an out of control brat, as best I can recall. Sounds like he was the sibling you don't want much to do with.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)The fact that she is a woman and smarter than him is another non starter.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)
And his OLDER SISTER!
Everything is stacked against her! She obviously knew from the time her Dad got busted for being the racist he is & profited millions off the tax payer & decided to put his megalomaniac son Trump in charge as the face of the company to save it she was getting the fuck away from them & doing her own thing!!
Now she probably tried to get her friend on the court & now has ran away again.
Is my guess.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)Remember, he knows more than all the generals, so I'm sure he thinks he knows more than the judges too. Even his sister. Wow, I wonder if she is embarrassed being related to that guy.
iluvtennis
(19,876 posts)dchill
(38,546 posts)Damn, you're right! I like Barney, though.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)I would bet she wants nothing to do with him.
Given just what I've read here they are not compatible people.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Since she knew her father and his criminality as well as DJT's even worse record, she probably is very wise to maintain as much distance from them and their affairs to avoid putting her career in jeopardy.
Besides, considering Donny is almost certainly a psychopath, if she got too close she might have legal obligation to have him committed.
.........
FakeNoose
(32,777 posts)While his parents were living, he wasn't so close them either. His Dad passed away in the 1990's and it led to family squabbles about inheritance that got nastier when Donald was opposed to helping his dead older brother's family. It was everyone else in the family against Donald, and yet Donald got his way. I think he got his father to rewrite his will before he died and cut the children of Fred Trump Jr. (Donald's brother) out of an equal share, since the brother had already died.
Then a few years later Donald had to borrow money after his divorce or bankruptcy, and I think it led to another family squabble because the other siblings were against Donald getting a loan against his inheritance. I don't know all the details but there have been times when Trump siblings had lawsuits and court hearings against one another.
It's not the kind of family where they just call each other up and ask for advice or suggestions. Not a normal family dynamic there.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)do enough damage.
His pathology requires a brain lacking in human empathy, cognition, integrity, language, memory, impulse control, and obvious gratification dysfuntion. But a family who cared might have been protective enough to prevent his gangster career from reaching such staggering dimentions.
No, it's not nature or nurture, it's all of the above.