Lindsey Graham

[Are_grits_groceries]

The consensus across the political spectrum in SC is that Lindsey is being blackmailed. Something made him do a 180. I have never liked his politics but I never thought he was this craven. This is out of character for him. Ppl are talking and these are people who have known him for a long time.

Lindsey’s parents died when he was younger. He adopted his little sister and raised her. Then he joined the AF became a JAG and this gave him time to finish college, get a law degree and take care of her. Then he fulfilled his AF commitment.

I don’t know what is going on, but Graham may trying to be signal that something is very wrong by acting so differently. Don’t write this off and put it down to him having a change of heart and agreeing with Trump. Lindsey does not have a mean bone in his body. Trump is 100% mean and nasty.

I don’t think his being gay is a factor. It is an open secret and he has been elected anyway. This is drawing attention down here because this is so out of character.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

1. "open secret" means he could be blackmailed as a homosexual it seems.

Open secrets dont imply he's "out" or whatever.

[Are_grits_groceries]

5. I think it is something that worries him more.

Unless he is after kids, his sexuality would only move the needle for some. The RW crazies would care, but they have been after him before. Most people shrugged. (I know gay does not mean pedophile as some imply.)

This is something new.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

8. Hard to say. The gop are not fans of gay people. To say they accept it is a disservice

to every god fearing gay hating repub in America. And theres lots of them. See Devos (just for starters) and her stance towards different children in schools.

[Are_grits_groceries]

14. I didn't say they accepted it.

There are enough who don’t care unless they think it is flaunted and they feel like they better say something. It’s a fine, hypocrital line they are trying to walk.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

15. They walk the line....

and are perpetual line crossers themselves when it suits them.

[Adrahil]

2. Not sure an "open secret" protects him from blackmail.

After all, it might be more than just being Gay. Remember that his supporters are freakin' nuts.

[Are_grits_groceries]

7. He has lost a lot of the worst.

If the dems down here would develop a good candidate, he could be challenged. This mess he is doing now is really casting him in a new light and not a good one.
Remember Alvin Greene?

[Funtatlaguy]

3. A poo 💩 poo tape?

[Trust Buster]

4. It might not be the fact that he is gay but, rather, the details of affairs. Who knows.

[Are_grits_groceries]

9. Could be

but I don’t think so. I have thought about a lot of details getting out that would make some uneasy.
He went golfing with Trump and then the change.

[underthematrix]

21. I'm thinking it's more along the lines of Rep Mark Foley

but much much worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley

Dennis Hastert was House Speaker at the time.

[Trust Buster]

24. That crossed my mind but I don't want to make that allegation w/o confirmation.

[underthematrix]

26. It's not an allegation just a suggestion of what the whitemail may involve.

[bluestarone]

6. HE has lot's in his closet that's for sure

AND RUSSIA knows all about them!!!

[GoCubsGo]

10. Got to wonder if he's protecting his sister.

I agree. The whole thing is bizarre.

[Are_grits_groceries]

18. I have wondered if that is how Trumpco is handling a lot of people.

Are they threatening family and friends to control people? Sounds bizarre but these are bizarre days.

[GoCubsGo]

35. I was thinking she may have done something he doesn't want anyone to know about.

But, yes. There is that, too. In fact, it's probably way more likely something like that is going on. Trumpco are nothing but a bunch of mobsters, and I wouldn't put it past them to engage in that sort of mob behavior. Especially considering they answer to a mob boss who regularly poisons people with nerve agents and polonium. Or, has them tossed out of 10-story windows.

[BootinUp]

11. Out of character my ass. nt

[Are_grits_groceries]

17. Unless you have followed him for years

and paid attention to politics here, then you have no idea. He is no hero or angel, but this is raising people’s curiosity. I am not the only one who thinks that. I have talked to people who are baffled too.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Lindsey Graham wants to be the next Attorney General.

That has become pretty obvious in light of his recent comments. He might think that if he agrees publicly that Sessions could (or should) be replaced and continues to suck up to Trump as he's been doing lately, that job could be his after the elections. And if that happens, will Graham continue to be Trump's stooge and shut down the independent counsel investigation, or will he let it continue, as he publicly says it should? Has he secretly promised Trump that he'll shut it down if he gets the job? Has he completely sold what's left of his soul?

[Pachamama]

16. This.....

....and some dark secrets he wants to keep hidden.

That is my take on Lindsay Graham....

Self-serving and without question hiding something.

[Are_grits_groceries]

19. I don't think so.

He does not seek confrontation. He has been willing to stand up for some things, but I can’t see him knowingly bringing a spotlight on himself. This is not the way to stay out of the fight. E will get dragged by everybody.

[Pachamama]

20. I don't think he is seeking confrontation....

....I think he is "following orders"....or else....

And that is completely self-serving.

He would also love to be Attorney General and probably even justifies his having to do this and follow what he is told, as being that he can somehow behind the scenes maybe "do something".

But I do think he is being blackmailed and he does as he is told....at least for now.

I personally think the truth will all eventually come out (including what it is that ole Lindsay Graham is hiding) and he will either try to emerge as a "hero" (maybe that he was working from the inside to fight Trump and the Russians), but in the end, its all about self-serving Lindsay.

[Cosmocat]

22. He has always been a shady puke

going back to his time as a congressmen in the 90s.

He has that soft spoken thing, that like Paul Ryan's bookishness, puts a facade to him that people gives people a pretense to think he is OK.

But, nothing he is doing now looks any different than what he has done his whole career - he takes the odd momentary position of saying something to make him look reasonable when he can get away with it, but he has always been a hard line partisan generally, and most definitely when the chips are on the table.

[magicarpet]

13. For certain trDump and Russia have been digging for all the dirt they can find...

.... to "win" people over and with the threat of blackmail and/or extortion to change their viewpoint to one more favorable to trDump.

The Art of the Deal - how to win friends and influence enemies - dig up dirt on them and then threaten them with the nastiest smear campaign.

[CrispyQ]

23. This routine of his is hysterical.

He starts with some jabs at HRC, of course, but then he takes off on the GOP, especially Trump. His comment on Ted Cruz will leave you howling.

Just under 7 minutes.

[CrispyQ]

25. "What kompromat did the Russians get on the GOP when they hacked the RNC?"

That is the question every news media should start their show with. Instead, all we get are jokes & snickers about how the GOP Congress has abdicated their duty. I know the snickers & jokes are done with a tone of disbelief, but it still lends an air of non-seriousness when they do this. They should be calling them out by name. McConnell, Ryan, Hatch, & down the line.

[UTUSN]

27. Well, he's always been a WEASEL, remember him steering the CLINTON impeachment?

On top of his normal condition of weaseldom, blackmail sounds plausible, and is the m.o. of criminals the ilk of J. Edgar, Roy COHN, Roger STONE, and SHITLER.

As to what the blackmail might be about, the key word in "open secret" is "secret." If it hasn't been that much of a hindrance to him, why keep on with the secret?

[dalton99a]

37. He used Clinton as a stepping stone for higher office.

He used McCain to bask in his reflected glory and to get in the spotlight.

Lindsey Graham is a typical opportunist and hypocrite.

[jrthin]

28. I don't know what Lindsey's secret is: but whatever it is, "they" have it. nt

[FM123]

29. The Russian hacked his emails on December 2016. They have something on him, now Trumpy is using it.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/14/politics/lindsey-graham-hacking-russia-donald-trump/index.html

[tonyt53]

30. I keep saying that Graham has three very different personalities.

[Lint Head]

31. I was born and raised in S.C. Being gay in S.C. is a tough row to hoe. When he was younger

especially. He had to hide it as a youth. Then in the AF. Bigots and racists there are elbow to ass and getting around them is not easy. Even today. I go back there often to visit family and friends. Trump mania is everywhere.

[lagomorph777]

32. Kompromat - #NRAROUBLES ?

[malaise]

33. Yep

I'd check the National Enquirer vault.

[AlexSFCA]

34. I think there may be some sex tape/leaked correspondence kompromat

you can only imagine, Graham is not openly gay by any means. He is single as far as we know. This means he hides his sexual relationships and there might be kompromat on his private life with potentially very explicit details. While there is nothing wrong with that, he and gop especially in SC may think otherwise.

[Hekate]

36. WHAT did he do the other day that had some saying he should be horsewhipped?

I asked the question in that thread, having missed whatever it was, and no one has answered, nor has it been explained in some context.

Thank you.

[Are_grits_groceries]

39. I missed that too.

All of them need to be horsewhipped in general.

[Hekate]

38. Thanks for the bio, by the way. I don't know anything about him, and that's interesting. nt

[Hekate]

40. Heckuva eulogy on the floor of the Senate

No question of the brotherly love between the two men.