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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 09:55 AM Aug 2018

Combative spy chiefs cause permanent damage in anti-Trump crusade

BY BUCK SEXTON — 08/20/18 08:15 AM EDT 275

THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

There’s a lot to criticize in our intelligence community. Sometimes it gets very important things very wrong. It’s a vast and cumbersome bureaucracy with 17 agencies and hundreds of thousands of personnel (at least). But for all its mistakes and flaws, the underlying ethos of the intel rank and file has always been apolitical. Ultimately, all that mattered was the mission of protecting America, not political ideology or partisan affiliation.

Politicization among intelligence officers has traditionally been viewed with the kind of heightened professional disdain that authors and journalists feel for plagiarism. And the leadership of the intel agencies has long accepted that the American people pick their president, for better or worse. Once in office, the commander in chief shouldn’t have to engage in a partisan house cleaning for fear of partisan retribution from incumbent appointees or senior level civil servants.


In the era of Trump, this is no longer the case.


Former CIA directors John Brennan and Michael Hayden, along with former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former FBI Director James Comey (among many other officials) have deployed some of the most extreme rhetorical weapons imaginable to take down this president. They have capitalized on the public’s perception of their classified access to hammer Trump. In so doing, they’ve eradicated the long-held notion of intelligence agency chiefs as nonpartisan actors.

John Brennan has suggested — repeatedly — that the president of the United States is guilty of treason on behalf of Russia. Michael Hayden (whom I worked for years ago at the CIA) shared a photo of a Nazi concentration camp on Twitter and compared it to Trump’s border policy. James Clapper said that Russia likely “turned” the election for Trump. Comey said that “patriots need to stand up” to Trump.

None of these men have produced evidence to back up their most outrageous claims about Russia collusion, though each of them had access to the most sophisticated information collection systems on the planet in the run up to Trump’s election.

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/402589-washed-up-spy-chiefs-cause-permanent-damage-in-anti-trump-crusade


After reading your hit job, I just gotta ask, what do you think of this.....................



Who is more of a patriot for speaking out, than writing a piece saying that they don't know what they are saying and that they are washed up, that they have politicized the agencies......................No sir, the malignant narcissistic traitor in the white house has done that job....................what do you think of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck, they like to run around and put there brand of crap on the airwaves, and basically say that anyone that exercising there first amendment right to speak up against fascist republicans, are not patriots or for that matter not libertarians or right wing republicans.

One of the people mentioned, Limbaugh got busted for smuggling drugs, how respectable is that, since you like to co-host his show when he is not around, after all he goes on the air and vilifies people that get busted for drugs.

And as for Beck, he pretty much is in the same camp as Alex Jones, know matter how he tries to say "stuff" to show that he has seen the whatever light he sees he still does some of the rants he had on race and other issues like education and such.............he still looks to be in the deplorable camp.

And has for being a commentator on Fox...................that says everything, I can't remember the last time that anything was truthful, they are the feed of bull shit and enabling treason, just like the trump lawyer now running around and saying the "truth isn't the truth".................whatever the hell that means..................

Now since you have the point of entry to comment on the platform called the Hill, you feel that ex-spies, commenting on a person that has basically committed treason and they are saying that what he is doing is basically treasonous, are a disgrace and that they are politicizing the agencies, really......................

What were part(s) of a scheme to defraud an election, with the help of foreign state actor, to help his team trump, and that the record shows this, that member(s) of his team met with RUSSIAN spies at a "republican convention and in a tower in down town Manhattan NY, and they didn't call the FBI, that this is just fine a dandy, and they shouldn't be called out...................I Have a question are you mentioned in the book Directorate S: The C.I.A. and America's Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan by Steve Coll.........................?

I really am glad that I still have the first amendment right to speak out, after all the accused sexual predator wants to shut down news organizations that don't tow his line of crap..................and he wants to shut me down also..................






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Combative spy chiefs cause permanent damage in anti-Trump crusade (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2018 OP
They needed to speak up. Couldn't disagree with this article more. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #1
"Buck Sexton?" Is that a real name? Sounds like a porn star. pangaia Aug 2018 #2
Hello dude NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #3
Buck Sexton is a right-wing hate radio talk show host, so The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #4
Thus Trump's advantage... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #5
Idiotic Conclusions ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #6
Why is this here? brush Aug 2018 #7

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. Hello dude
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:16 AM
Aug 2018

have you been paying attention? Trump himself admitted to collusion two weeks ago on Twitter when he said the trump tower meeting was to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russians.

and, right after the trump tower meeting, Trump had a press conference asking for the Russians to get Hillary's emails, and the Russians responded by releasing the DNC emails. That's also collusion.

and, if there were not attempts at Collusion, why did Team Trump go to such efforts to hide scores of meetings with the Russians and then lie about hiding them? Sessions, Kushner, Don Jr, etc.

In, 3, 6 or 9 months or longer, they'll be saying that Brennan, Clapper, Hayden and others were not speaking out loudly enough.

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
5. Thus Trump's advantage...
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:37 AM
Aug 2018

and an advantage that Repubs have been exploiting for decades.

The Intel Community is typically enjoined from commenting for very real security reasons, a restriction that Trump and his ilk need not follow. Same with Justice and Law Enforcement.

More Deep State bullshit from a RW blowhard. Frankly, the "Deep State" just might be our last line of defense against the authoritarian coup in progress.

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