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Think about it.
First, stipulate that while Eisenhower may have been in tune with the moderate Republican ideology of his era, he was in no way a GOP apparatchik, had never run for any lesser office under the GOP umbrella, and never served in any appointed position as a Republican. As a senior military officer, like most senior military back then, he largely avoided politics or overt partisan identification until he teamed up with the moderate wing of the GOP to prevent Taft from being elected and undoing NATO and the UN and other post-WWII global alliances.
Now, look again.
What does the GOP have to do, to win a Presidential election?
Since Eisenhower, five GOP candidates have won Presidential elections.
Nixon colluded with a hostile foreign power to nuke the Paris peace accords, contributing to his victory.
Reagan colluded with a hostile foreign power to prevent resolution of the Iran hostage crisis, contributing to his victory.
GW Bush gamed the electoral process (cheated) to hand a conservative-dominated Supreme Court the opportunity to hand him the Presidency.
[Redacted] both colluded with a hostile foreign power AND gamed the electoral process (cheated).
It is just conceivably possible that GHW Bush won fairly and squarely. It's possible that his terms as GOP chair, envoy to China, and Director of the CIA, not to mention his family's unsavory history of doing business with international, er, parties, had little or nothing to do with his electoral victory.
It's possible.
So, maybe the GOP has won ONE Presidential election since Herbert Hoover's 1928 victory.
Maybe.
But colluding with hostile foreign powers and outright cheating have been much more reliable for them.
historically,
Bright
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That one wasn't close.
dchill
(38,441 posts)TygrBright
(20,755 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, he was about as bland and uninspiring as they come and the Willie Horton ad and poor response killed Dukakis.
So, that was Lee Atwater and Karl Rove and also Bush running on the coattails of the popular Reagan - Reagan was at 57% in the November 1988 Gallup Poll and rose to 63% in December of 1988
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He won the popular vote and the electoral vote both by large margins.
That was a crazy primary. Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson, and Paul Simon's bow-tie!
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)they've all been shady. Gore and Kerry and Hillary all won I think. Kerry narrowly, but still a victory, based on the very near finger on the local and public pulse. Swiftboated a veteran...decorated veteran...during wartime..the gop is shameless. Max Clelland? (sp). Don't get me started.
They knew Obama was a landslide and they hadn't quite gotten in front of those kinds of numbers yet in a voting box program. When we vote exponentially, the computer spits out the answer on a piece of paper to the County Clerk..."Don't even try it...these guys are serious. The Democrat won."
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)had the Iran Contra ordeal been handled properly...and no GHW/no GW ...
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Like to besmirch H Bush a bit since he almost escapes here. The Bush lineage going back to Hitler financier, Senator Bush from Connecticut, has been dedicated to the proposition, that the richest should not have to pay taxes - that proposition has been the family lifeblood, and the ultimate source of their riches. Elective office support for Bushes has been very reliable. So there.
brush
(53,740 posts)FakeNoose
(32,577 posts)... that might have been stolen. There were shenanigans in Illinois, the first Mayor Daley did some underhanded things to give Illinois to Kennedy. It was enough to make Kennedy the winner in 1960, but it may have been stolen from Nixon.
Before we Dems can right right the ship, we need to acknowledge our sins. It happened almost 60 years ago and that time, the Democrats were wrong. Not only that, after Nixon lost he started in with the dirty tricks and other shit to make sure he would never lose again, and that's how we got Watergate.
thucythucy
(8,038 posts)He won his very first campaign as a Representative from California by accusing his opponent--with no evidence whatsoever--of being a communist or communist sympathizer. As I recall he also managed to work in a bit of misogyny into his campaign, saying she was "pink down to her underwear."
As VP under Eisenhower he shilled for United Fruit, convincing Eisenhower to support a CIA plot to overthrow the democratically elected government of Guatemala, resulting in decades of military dictatorships, civil war, death squads, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in that country.
Nixon was, as Hunter Thompson famously put it, so crooked he had to screw his pants on every morning.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)But I always google before I post anything and was surprised to find that while the Daley machine probably had some fraudulent votes (usually votes by people who had already passed away) that the fraud wasn't enough to swing the election and Kennedy didn't need IL to win the electoral college
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/08/heres-a-voter-fraud-myth-richard-daley-stole-illinois-for-john-kennedy-in-the-1960-election/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4fac15b511c9
(whole article is very good)
One way to bring fraud to light is with a recount, and there is a persistent myth that there was no recount in Cook County. In fact, there were two recounts one in November 1960, before the state vote was certified, and one after Kennedys inauguration in 1961.
According to Kallinas history, both recounts whittled Kennedys margin in Cook County, but not by enough to erase his lead statewide.
Dissatisfied Republicans pointed out that some forms of fraud such as buying or coercing votes were not the kind that could be corrected by simply recounting the votes. Democrats countered that the downstate counties, which hadnt been recounted, might have had fraud favoring Nixon, but Democrats did not offer evidence to support their accusation.
We may never know who received the most votes the 1960 election in Illinois. But the available evidence suggests that there wasnt enough fraud, at least in the counting, to give Illinois to Kennedy. And in any case Kennedy didnt need Illinois to win the White House.
This was news to me.
FakeNoose
(32,577 posts)... but it's important to remember that we're sinners too. We've been guilty of buying/selling votes, gerrymandering when it suited us, and indifference to racial and gender minorities. The Democrats need to FIX these PROBLEMS for all Americans, not just to get one-up on the Republicans.
We already know for a fact that the GOP will never fix the problems. It's our job and we need to do it as soon as we gain majority.
thucythucy
(8,038 posts)has won the popular vote in six out of the last seven elections:
Clinton in '92
Clinton in '96
Gore in 2000
Obama in 2008
Obama in 2012
Clinton in 2016.
If not for the travesty of the Electoral College, we'd be talking about how the GOP has ceased to function as an effective presidential party.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)to nuke the Paris Peace accords.
He did win in 1968 by claiming to have a secret plan to end the war, and then managed not to end it until after he'd been re-elected, but that end to the war was known as the Paris Peace Accords.
TygrBright
(20,755 posts)They were planning peace talks.
The location was chosen: Paris.
I suppose you can quibble about whether the faction then in charge of the South Vietnamese government was by technical definition a "hostile" foreign power, but they sure as hell were NOT friendly.
helpfully,
Bright