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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMultiple Dem candidates may cost Democrats in California. Updated 1:17
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Democratic vote watered down...what a shame...according to MSNBC.
Update...Dem Harder is ahead of GOP Howze by two points...so looking better...fingers crossed. Hairseade and Bowe are now tied...if bowe wins we are locked out of Rohrbachers general race....sigh.
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/5/17425334/california-primary-election-2018-live-results-polls
Update 1:14 Keistead (D) moves ahead of Baugh (R) by 1 point...encouraging...fingers crossed.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)I voted knowing this too! I used strategy to vote for the Dems who I normally wouldn't have voted for just to avoid this problem. I even kept a rough copy and planned it out and told everyone I know too. SHIT!!!
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)It is still very close...but a warning for future primaries.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)in trouble too. in house 10...less than 1000 votes ...we could be shut out...we may lose two candidates in two races in areas Hillary won...so pissed at those who ran knowing they could endanger the attempt to take the house.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)Let's hope it doesn't happen because if it does...we can kiss the House goodbye.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)They never bother to point out that the other side of the coin is that quite a number of races will have 2 Dems and be guaranteed shut-outs for Repubs.
I'm not particularly a fan of this style primary. But I'm pretty f*cking tired of people pointing to California as a reason why Dems might not win back the House. We hold up our f*cking end when it comes to electing Democrats. CA's delegation is 39-14 in the House of Reps at the moment. Get your sh*t in gear America and do likewise.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)seat to many...Dems should have dropped out so this did not happen...the point is to win. We need to win the house an it is irresponsible to have so many in a primary that we could lose the chance to take the seat in the general.
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)We are blue as heck..... but its not enough
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)at GOP seats when we desperately need them to take the House...if we lose the chance to take the house...it will be because of California...but the races are close...hopefully Dems will pull it out.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)Go flog people in Florida, and Virginia, and North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and Ohio, and Texas, and Iowa, etc, etc, etc... Their votes matter as much as anyone in California.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)in these California districts hopefully not.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)states we don't just have to win...we have to win big big....so those seats were important...too many candidates spoil the broth...it is a fact.
JI7
(89,249 posts)while fewer republicans focus on a couple candidates it can hurt democrats even though overall most votes went to democrats.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Be it Dem vs. Dem or Dem vs. Rep, those are safe districts. So, I think the hand-wringing is understandable.
8 Democrats are running in CA-32. Eight! Against just 2 Republicans. In a very blue district. I doubt we'll get shut out there, but it sure would be infuriating if it happens.
Meanwhile, several districts (especially CA-48) are at risk. We need to do away with this jungle primary.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)had dropped out for it not to have happened. This encourages GOP turnout in the fall and could cause trouble in down ballot races.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And we should remember that the Republican vote was split, as well, with both Cox and Allen running.
That said, I'm also opposed to this top-2 system, though there is a chance De León will come in 2nd in the Senate contest.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)is a race where the national-level party/donors/PACs/SuperPACs don't need to spend any money to keep the seat in D control. For the Senate/Gubernatorial races that is many millions of dollars that can be spent elsewhere. Whether it balances or not is an important question, but one cannot honestly weigh the costs/benefits of this style primary by ignoring half the ledger.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)But, again, those are safe districts that wouldn't require a whole lot of spending.
Overall, I'd say the potential negatives outweigh the potential positives.
JI7
(89,249 posts)Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)a minute ago.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)liskddksil
(2,753 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I'm still not a fan of this top-2 system.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)Divide.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)should have been enforced...those with low numbers needed to go.