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helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:58 PM Apr 2018

I was at Walmart today...Two Mexican ladies were

in an aisle with their kids. They were speaking Spanish. This lady goes around them and then tells her companion in a loud voice, “I’m so sick of these damn Mexicans!!” 😡😡😡. OMG I was so pissed. Took everything in me not to tell her that I was sick of racist @ssholes like her. #Trumpsworld..They see the racist @sshole in the White House so feel empowered to say racist things...I did not say anything but I gave her the dirtiest look ever. Left no doubt what I thought about her. Hours later and I’m still pissed.

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I was at Walmart today...Two Mexican ladies were (Original Post) helpisontheway Apr 2018 OP
Can't say I blame ya... doubt I woulda been able to hold back. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #1
Next time, tell the racists off. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #2
Have to be careful since they might have guns JI7 Apr 2018 #6
Sadly, that's a real danger NT Rorey Apr 2018 #9
Yeah this is Walmart treestar Apr 2018 #51
I read something to the effect that treestar Apr 2018 #52
"They see the racist @sshole in the White House so feel empowered to say racist things." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #3
Next time, tell her off nicely. raging moderate Apr 2018 #4
Yep, just stand by the Mexican women ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #5
Tell them if they are not Native Americans, quartz007 Apr 2018 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2018 #20
Really? fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2018 #23
Bring poaching water to a simmer: uppityperson Apr 2018 #25
Technically, anyone born in the Western Hemisphere is a native American Rollo Apr 2018 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2018 #29
Make Hollandaise sauce in blender: uppityperson Apr 2018 #30
Is english your second language? nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #32
Only if your dictionary only goes one definition deep Major Nikon Apr 2018 #36
The capitalized version treestar Apr 2018 #55
I have a particular rub with interpreting it differently Major Nikon Apr 2018 #61
What makes you think they were illegal immigrants? pamela Apr 2018 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2018 #33
What makes you think they can't speak English? pamela Apr 2018 #35
Message auto removed no doubt assumes both treestar Apr 2018 #56
Well, she better stay out of my city Rorey Apr 2018 #8
I love my Mexican neighbors. I will never understand the hate. Glimmer of Hope Apr 2018 #10
Some people love hatred, It's their zest of life. Frankly, I think they get off sexually by being RKP5637 May 2018 #79
Years ago I was yelled at while walking through a parking lot nini Apr 2018 #11
I know a little spanish BigMin28 Apr 2018 #12
Oh great treestar Apr 2018 #57
Just tell the Latinas snowybirdie May 2018 #77
+1 treestar May 2018 #80
I would have told chillfactor Apr 2018 #13
I have never met a Mexican yet treestar Apr 2018 #58
a) that was a woman, not a lady, and b) mahina Apr 2018 #14
I was thinking that retribution is right, but I like your approach RainCaster Apr 2018 #15
I would still be pissed, too! Cha Apr 2018 #16
I'd like to know what makes some assholes feel so superior. lpbk2713 Apr 2018 #17
tRump makes these ASSHOLES feel superior every time he opens his SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #43
How do you know they were Mexicans? cwydro Apr 2018 #18
That was my question, too. Mariana Apr 2018 #19
Yes indeed. cwydro Apr 2018 #21
They also could be from Central or South America or descended Exotica Apr 2018 #24
many racists refer to anyone that speaks spanish or looks hispanic as mexican JI7 Apr 2018 #38
Including Puerto Ricans, who are native born US Citizens. MineralMan Apr 2018 #46
Yes, but the OP referred to them as Mexicans. cwydro Apr 2018 #47
Exactly.... AncientGeezer Apr 2018 #53
OP likely meant ethnically treestar Apr 2018 #60
Latino would be ethnic....Mexican is very specific. AncientGeezer Apr 2018 #66
Yes. cwydro May 2018 #75
I can generally tell the difference between Spanish speakers Major Nikon Apr 2018 #67
that is a racial hate crime here in both the UK and every Nordic country. Exotica Apr 2018 #26
I would probably have said that vey thing if I was in your shoes. Lint Head Apr 2018 #27
speak up...I give you permission Demonaut Apr 2018 #34
I would have spoken out. We need to speak out and secondwind Apr 2018 #37
i would say at least let the people being attacked know you think those people are assholes JI7 Apr 2018 #39
Why did you bother to stop yourself Dorian Gray Apr 2018 #40
I'm sick of assholes feeling free to just open up wide and spew filth in public JHB Apr 2018 #41
How do you know they were Mexican? n/t malaise Apr 2018 #42
Yes, that was my question too. cwydro Apr 2018 #48
We both asked. cwydro May 2018 #72
LOL malaise May 2018 #73
From any number of Spanish speaking countries! cwydro May 2018 #74
Would the fundamental narrative of the story change were the subjects Nicaraguan? LanternWaste May 2018 #76
It represents the chance to eat one of our own treestar May 2018 #82
Guessing? treestar May 2018 #81
If there's a next time, don't let Duppers Apr 2018 #44
Too bad more EAs don't understand American DFW Apr 2018 #45
We are language poor... BlueJac Apr 2018 #63
You could look at another way DFW May 2018 #71
We cannot be silent and we cannot be in OldHippieChick Apr 2018 #49
They're spending dollars in your community MountCleaners Apr 2018 #50
I was born in Brooklyn and spoke only Lithuanian until I was four years old eleny Apr 2018 #54
Racist assholes like that Ohiogal Apr 2018 #59
Stand up to racism... BlueJac Apr 2018 #62
I would have cussed them out in my border Spanish. panader0 Apr 2018 #64
Maybe 80% of the people in our Wal-Mart speak Spanish. hunter Apr 2018 #65
You don't have to be terrible but you should have said something. WhiteTara Apr 2018 #68
Am I Mexican? Mollyann Apr 2018 #69
This story is upsetting. TomSlick Apr 2018 #70
I don't keep my mouth shut! democratisphere May 2018 #78

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. I read something to the effect that
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:54 PM
Apr 2018

what you should do is talk to the Mexican ladies. It might have been a video.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,513 posts)
3. "They see the racist @sshole in the White House so feel empowered to say racist things."
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:03 PM
Apr 2018

Nope, pretty sure it's because people don't call them out when they have the chance.

raging moderate

(4,317 posts)
4. Next time, tell her off nicely.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:04 PM
Apr 2018

Tell her, "Then go to Europe. If they'll let you in."

People who came here expecting to see and hear only English people had to have a screw loose in their heads somewhere. People who expect that NOW are totally crazy.

Response to quartz007 (Reply #7)

Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #22)

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
25. Bring poaching water to a simmer:
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:32 AM
Apr 2018

While the bacon is cooking, bring a large saucepan two-thirds-filled with water to a boil, then add the vinegar. Bring the water to a boil again, then lower the heat to a bare simmer.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
28. Technically, anyone born in the Western Hemisphere is a native American
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:35 AM
Apr 2018

Although not necessarily a citizen of the United States of America.

Response to Rollo (Reply #28)

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
36. Only if your dictionary only goes one definition deep
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:24 AM
Apr 2018

Sometimes "native" means aboriginal, and in that context it most certainly does.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
61. I have a particular rub with interpreting it differently
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 05:20 PM
Apr 2018

As a Native American living in Texas I see a lot of bumper stickers declaring themselves as a "Native Texan" which is obviously a play off of "Native American". Knowing a few of the people who display such things, I know they certainly aren't what I'd define as a "Native Texan" because while they may have been born in the state, they certainly aren't indigenous to it and furthermore virtually all of them would very much like to expel many of those who most certainly are indigenous to the area who they pejoratively describe as "illegal".

Response to pamela (Reply #31)

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Well, she better stay out of my city
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:05 PM
Apr 2018

I don't know why it should bother anyone. Are they trying to eavesdrop?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
79. Some people love hatred, It's their zest of life. Frankly, I think they get off sexually by being
Tue May 1, 2018, 04:15 PM
May 2018

hateful to others.

nini

(16,672 posts)
11. Years ago I was yelled at while walking through a parking lot
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:12 PM
Apr 2018

I'm white but dark due to my Portuguese roots. Two rednecks told me to go back to Tijuana. I told them to fuck off in German LOL I'm sure they had no idea what language that was since I doubt they even made it out of high school. I have ancestors who fought in the revolutionary war not that they would believe it.


As far as your incident. Speak up. Don't let them silence you.

BigMin28

(1,186 posts)
12. I know a little spanish
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:17 PM
Apr 2018

If you really wanted to get to them, tell them off in Spanish. It pisses them off, but the don't quite know how to respond. And the Latino ladies would love it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. Oh great
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:57 PM
Apr 2018

What would be the way in Spanish to say "buzz off racist!" I know Spanish but not stuff like that.

chillfactor

(7,587 posts)
13. I would have told
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:20 PM
Apr 2018

the trumpracist off in no uncertain terms. I have both white and Mexican neighbors. My Mexican neighbors are friendly and very helpful. The white neighbors not so much.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
58. I have never met a Mexican yet
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:59 PM
Apr 2018

who was not a nice person and much nicer than any white racist. There's a facebook meme about deporting the Republicans and keeping the undocumented Mexicans!

mahina

(17,751 posts)
14. a) that was a woman, not a lady, and b)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:20 PM
Apr 2018

hoping next time, god/dess forbid there is a next time, you can be in solidarity with the victims of bullying.

One great technique is to ignore the tormentor and just chat in a friendly way with the victims, till the bully gets tired of being ignored and goes away. Or combusts and burns down.

Solidarity is the key.

Thanks for listening to my .02. Silence is not golden.

RainCaster

(10,952 posts)
15. I was thinking that retribution is right, but I like your approach
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:47 PM
Apr 2018

This is more in line with all the greats who have really changed the worlds views. Think of Ghandi and MLK. This should be our model.

lpbk2713

(42,774 posts)
17. I'd like to know what makes some assholes feel so superior.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:58 PM
Apr 2018



I have a feeling their lives are really quite tragic.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
43. tRump makes these ASSHOLES feel superior every time he opens his
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:15 AM
Apr 2018

filthy mouth about his DAMN wall and his bogus claims of illegal (hate that term) immigrants flooding across the border. Lying liar.

Mariana

(14,863 posts)
19. That was my question, too.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:12 AM
Apr 2018

When I lived in Texas, I knew a lot of Spanish-speaking people - neighbors, colleagues, and friends. Most of them were US citizens.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
24. They also could be from Central or South America or descended
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:30 AM
Apr 2018

from immigrants from any of those other countries.

JI7

(89,287 posts)
38. many racists refer to anyone that speaks spanish or looks hispanic as mexican
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:44 AM
Apr 2018

it makes no difference to them .

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. OP likely meant ethnically
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 05:01 PM
Apr 2018

without making a specific statement that they were Mexican citizens. Yes, they could be legal residents or US citizens, native or naturalized. And they could be Central or South Americans.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
75. Yes.
Tue May 1, 2018, 03:55 PM
May 2018

Lord, that’s like saying “I called those two New Zealanders Americans because I was speaking ethnically.” Geez.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
67. I can generally tell the difference between Spanish speakers
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:38 PM
Apr 2018

I'm not saying those in question can, but there's definitely differences in appearance, language, and mannerisms. Sometimes it's as subtle as telling the difference between someone from the US and an English speaking Canadian and sometimes it's as pronounced as telling the difference between someone from the US and someone from the UK. There's also sometimes significant differences from different regions of Mexico. Naturally from the xenophobic wingnut point of view everyone who speaks Spanish and is brown is Mexican, even though neither one of those things are exclusive to Mexico.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
26. that is a racial hate crime here in both the UK and every Nordic country.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:34 AM
Apr 2018

I have seen multiple people arrested on the Tube (both on the train and in the station) and once in a resto.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
27. I would probably have said that vey thing if I was in your shoes.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:35 AM
Apr 2018

But my personality has gotten me into trouble before.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
37. I would have spoken out. We need to speak out and
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:42 AM
Apr 2018

protect those who are being verbally attacked, etc.

This is not the time for silence, it only emboldens those assholes.

JI7

(89,287 posts)
39. i would say at least let the people being attacked know you think those people are assholes
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:44 AM
Apr 2018

but as i said earlier you have to be careful about sometimes confronting the bigots because they might be armed.

(by those people i mean the bigots)

Dorian Gray

(13,529 posts)
40. Why did you bother to stop yourself
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 05:55 AM
Apr 2018

from confronting her?

A simple, "Racist, please!" would have stopped her in her tracks and made her think twice about being a vocal asshole.

JHB

(37,166 posts)
41. I'm sick of assholes feeling free to just open up wide and spew filth in public
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:23 AM
Apr 2018

Potty mouths, indeed.

malaise

(269,280 posts)
73. LOL
Tue May 1, 2018, 01:02 PM
May 2018

They could have been from Puerto Rico for all I know - or they could have been my brother, his ex-wife and his children

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
74. From any number of Spanish speaking countries!
Tue May 1, 2018, 03:53 PM
May 2018

I often think Rafa is Mexican, doncha know?

Or as another poster pointed out - American citizens.

Every Spanish speaker I know is an American citizen. Heritage is Cuban mostly, though one Colombian. I do have a co-worker who is married to a Mexican.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
76. Would the fundamental narrative of the story change were the subjects Nicaraguan?
Tue May 1, 2018, 03:59 PM
May 2018

Would the fundamental narrative of the story change were the subjects Nicaraguan?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
82. It represents the chance to eat one of our own
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:08 PM
May 2018

for bigotry, even if there was a real white-hot racist right there in the picture.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
81. Guessing?
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:07 PM
May 2018

He could have been wrong. But I don't see going after him as worth it when there was a bona fide real racist asshole who made the comment right there.

Duppers

(28,132 posts)
44. If there's a next time, don't let
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 02:27 PM
Apr 2018

The opportunity to tell them off slip by.

I confront everyone, even acquaintances. I do not care if they get upset with me.

DFW

(54,503 posts)
45. Too bad more EAs don't understand American
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 02:52 PM
Apr 2018

And by that, I mean languages native to the American continent, such as Lakota, Navajo, Hopi, Iroquois, etc. etc. etc. Then some European-Americans who think the fact that the success of their flea-bitten ancestors' brutality somehow makes it OK for them to proclaim that one European language (English) is superior to some other European language (e.g. Spanish or French) might think twice. If their way of doing things had been practiced by the people who were here when their ancestors landed, things might have turned out very differently:

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BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
63. We are language poor...
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 05:38 PM
Apr 2018

Most country's people speak many languages, we are very weak and fearsome.

DFW

(54,503 posts)
71. You could look at another way
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:56 AM
May 2018

We have such a wealth of languages in our country, it is staggering, but we neither acknowledge it nor take advantage of it.

We are like a nation of monkeys living at Fort Knox: we are surrounded by unimaginable wealth but neither recognize it nor have the slightest clue that we could use it to improve our lives.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
49. We cannot be silent and we cannot be in
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:37 PM
Apr 2018

fear. This is what empowers them unfortunately. They think they can bully us and they are often successful as they were here. We have to be brave. They are the true cowards as we truly know.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
54. I was born in Brooklyn and spoke only Lithuanian until I was four years old
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:54 PM
Apr 2018

I cringe at what she might have said in earshot of my family at the grocery.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
62. Stand up to racism...
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 05:32 PM
Apr 2018

if not, you are validating their spew of hatred! Try to make a difference, it will be uncomfortable but you can help innocent people from being the only one embarrassed.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
64. I would have cussed them out in my border Spanish.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

After working with Mexican bricklayers for many years,
I know some good put downs. The others may not have understood, but
the Mexican ladies would have known.

hunter

(38,349 posts)
65. Maybe 80% of the people in our Wal-Mart speak Spanish.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:09 PM
Apr 2018

The checkout and customer service clerks are bilingual.

About half the conversations I hear in Wal-Mart are entirely Spanish, maybe a quarter drift between English and Spanish, maybe 15% are English speakers like me, and the other 10% miscellaneous; Native American languages, Arabic, Tagalog, various Indian and Chinese languages...

My wife speaks English and Spanish at work, and our kids speak enough Spanish to get along in bilingual workplaces.

In our community 40% of the children in our public schools don't speak English at home, but their children will speak English. That's pretty much how it's always been in the U.S.A..

I used to run into old white people who fondly remembered a highly segregated community where nobody would dare speak Spanish in a predominantly white shop or restaurant, but they're all dead.

WhiteTara

(29,732 posts)
68. You don't have to be terrible but you should have said something.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:22 PM
Apr 2018

That's why you are still upset. A quiet, firm tone and say, "you may not talk that way. You are being disrespectful and should apologize." Of course they won't, so you should apologize for them and give some small compliment to the women who were abused. You'll feel better, maybe still a bit charged but in a good way rather than anger and despair.

Mollyann

(108 posts)
69. Am I Mexican?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:31 PM
Apr 2018

My ancestors moved to Texas in 1835 when it was part of Mexico. They promised to be loyal citizens and learn Spanish.

TomSlick

(11,134 posts)
70. This story is upsetting.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:58 PM
Apr 2018

Racists feel empowered because of the Racist-in-Chief. I worry that we will be years overcoming the damage being done.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
78. I don't keep my mouth shut!
Tue May 1, 2018, 04:06 PM
May 2018

If someone is on a racist rant, I will call them out on it, even if it leeds to verbal fisticuffs.

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