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pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:10 PM Apr 2018

Michelle Wolf wasted much of her time, IMO, with boring jokes

about people with relatively little power in the administration, like Sanders and Conway. She had SOME good jabs in there, but she left an abundance of much more interesting topics on the cutting room floor.

Where were the jokes about Steven Bannon? Donald Jr? Carter Page? What's-his-name, the wife beater? Dr. Ronny Jackson, the Candy Man? Sebastian Gorka? Even if it seems fairer to leave out the WH people currently under indictment or with guilty pleas (though I'd say that a guilty plea leaves Michael Flynn as fair game), there are plenty of other people more powerful than Sanders and Conway who Wolf could have called out.

Where were the jokes about the Trump tower meeting? The elite who pay "membership fees" to meet with DT in Mar a Lago? About the foreigners who hope to curry favor by staying in Trump hotels? About DT's tax returns and what must be hiding in them?

And on and on and on. I think she had a wonderful opportunity but failed to make the most of it.


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Michelle Wolf wasted much of her time, IMO, with boring jokes (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2018 OP
I loved her set. I thought it was really funny and, unlike many others, I thought she successfully Squinch Apr 2018 #1
She went after the right people Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #2
And not white MALE Trump enablers? Like Bannon, etc. ? pnwmom Apr 2018 #3
Yep Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #6
I don't want to be misogynist but without 'White female Trump enablers'.......... nolabels Apr 2018 #15
Mueller will take care of that stuff. Michelle Wolf called out the media JI7 Apr 2018 #4
Steve Bannon's in the media. And he kept his Breitbart position while he was working for Trump. pnwmom Apr 2018 #5
She didn't have unlimited time. JI7 Apr 2018 #7
She could have dropped a couple jokes from SHS and spent them on Bannon instead. pnwmom Apr 2018 #8
She is a comedian. SHS was there representing Trump JI7 Apr 2018 #9
She was great and on target going after females in the WH . If a male comedian did that the media lunasun Apr 2018 #10
Why didn't she go after Bannon? Why didn't she go after all the WH correspondents pnwmom Apr 2018 #11
Sanders was sitting on the dais... SidDithers Apr 2018 #12
He is still a member of the press. Since when can they only go after people who pnwmom Apr 2018 #14
What press?... SidDithers Apr 2018 #16
Bannon was chairman of Breitbart till January this year. He's fair game. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #18
Yes, I know he was Breitbart and he no longer is... SidDithers Apr 2018 #19
He IS relevant. These dinners are only held once a year, and anyone who held his position pnwmom Apr 2018 #20
If her focus was on targeting Trump by ridiculing and denouncing his closest procon Apr 2018 #13
You make a good point leftstreet Apr 2018 #17

Squinch

(51,084 posts)
1. I loved her set. I thought it was really funny and, unlike many others, I thought she successfully
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:13 PM
Apr 2018

avoided insulting people based on appearance. She told the truth about their lies in a way that made me laugh.

I'll be looking for her HBO show..

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
15. I don't want to be misogynist but without 'White female Trump enablers'..........
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:42 PM
Apr 2018

there are no 'white MALE Trump enablers'. The obvious little secret is that men will not want to hang around with just a bunch of other men. I can appreciate that Michelle Wolf is a comedian but so was Al Franken. Playing one side against the other is just another way to deliver a cheap shot that has little merit to the subject.

Another thing you might want notice is that corporate media will find a way to make this whole diatribe turn against progressives and the Democratic Party for the purpose of dividing us more.

My take is that the skit seems to show it was all kind of juvenile in the end

The fact that you would want to go below, in an intellectual level, to criticize someone is that same definition juvenile in a nutshell. Degrading the conversation at such an event makes me think we are taking steps backward.

Whoever might despise someone or something for what it stands for but plying such behavior only strengthens the hand of the thing or the one that is being disliked. You are actually proving the point without the opposition having to raise a finger.

Missing the decorum doesn't seem to be the issue but more likely the idea of not offering an alternative inspiring view with such a large attentive audience is where I agree with the OP

JI7

(89,287 posts)
4. Mueller will take care of that stuff. Michelle Wolf called out the media
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:19 PM
Apr 2018

More people should do that.

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
5. Steve Bannon's in the media. And he kept his Breitbart position while he was working for Trump.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:21 PM
Apr 2018

Wasn't that worthy of a mention?

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
8. She could have dropped a couple jokes from SHS and spent them on Bannon instead.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:23 PM
Apr 2018

Or on Alan Dershowitz, the supposed Democrat who pushes Trump as an "analyst" on Fox.

For example. Oh, yeah, and she could have cut that non-joke calling Ted Kennedy a murderer.

What I said is she didn't make the most of the time she had.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. She was great and on target going after females in the WH . If a male comedian did that the media
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:32 PM
Apr 2018

would scream bully and sexist . They are a disappointment to many women in the USA in thier dishonest positions and slimy actions .
Wolf pointed to that with biting humor . Delicate flowers they can not claim.

Usually the president is at the dinner
If trump was there it would be different but he decided to skip and let conway and sanders represent

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
11. Why didn't she go after Bannon? Why didn't she go after all the WH correspondents
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:35 PM
Apr 2018

who helped Trump win by their breathless coverage of emails?

Why didn't she go after them for STILL working hand in glove with the WH to push the story that somehow Hillary's emails matter more than DT's continued use of a non-secure personal cell phone?

Why didn't she go after the correspondents for how they cover races? For thinking fair coverage means criticizing each candidate to the same degree, even if one candidate is basically evil and the other is a regular, flawed human being?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
12. Sanders was sitting on the dais...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:37 PM
Apr 2018

she was the proxy for Trump. Of course she was going to be a target.



ETA: and why the fuck would she go after Bannon? Was he even there? He no longer works for the administration.

Sid

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
14. He is still a member of the press. Since when can they only go after people who
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:40 PM
Apr 2018

are physically present?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
16. What press?...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:48 PM
Apr 2018

Bannon's not a member of the press.

He's a campaign consultant and strategist. Bannon's too inside baseball, for a 20 minute set at the WHCD. There are bigger, more public targets that deserve to be mocked.

And, jokes at a roast are a lot less funny, or interesting, if the target isn't in the room.

Except for the Trumps. They can, and should be ridiculed at every opportunity.

Sid

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
19. Yes, I know he was Breitbart and he no longer is...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:13 PM
Apr 2018

You, however, said he still is a member of the press. Present tense.

What's he done lately, that warrants him being included as a target for the WHCD?

He's not even a public figure any longer. His star is fading fast.

He's not relevant any more.

Sid

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
20. He IS relevant. These dinners are only held once a year, and anyone who held his position
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:28 PM
Apr 2018

during the last year is fair game.

And we're going to be hearing a lot more about Steve Bannon. He was working for Breitbart, Cambridge Analytica, and DT -- all at the same time.

This is dated April 2018.

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/384936-bannon-directed-cambridge-analytica-to-research-discouraging-voter-turnout

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. If her focus was on targeting Trump by ridiculing and denouncing his closest
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:39 PM
Apr 2018

and most ardent supporters, and not the smorgasbord of his fawning fan club, then she was quite successful.

Those you cite stood closest to Trump, he picked them to do his dirty work and lie for him. They were his top tier accomplices, not the rest of the herd, and she picked them off shooting fish in a barrel.

leftstreet

(36,119 posts)
17. You make a good point
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:07 PM
Apr 2018

I didn't watch it but I've read enough to know the bulk of the jabs. And...meh

Where were the jokes about the Trump tower meeting? The elite who pay "membership fees" to meet with DT in Mar a Lago? About the foreigners who hope to curry favor by staying in Trump hotels? About DT's tax returns and what must be hiding in them?


See, this is what I thought any comedian hosting would have gone after. Mocking his 'elite' moron club members and Trump hotel suckups would have been a nice bite! His failed attempts at cruel and stupid legislation seemed to get a pass also.

I'm not sure trading all that to make Sanders and Conway look like 'victims' was really worth it
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