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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 05:23 PM Apr 2018

'Putin has no further use for Trump': Why Natalia Veselnitskaya admitted to being Russian agent

‘Putin has no further use for Trump’: CNN analyst explains why Trump Tower lawyer just admitted Kremlin connections

MARTIN CIZMAR
28 APR 2018 AT 17:13 ET

Why did Kremlin-connected lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya just admit that she’s a Russian informant?

A CNN panel discussed that today, with everyone agreeing that it was something Putin wanted her to do—and wondering aloud whether it’s just to sow more chaos, or if there is a greater strategy at play.

Brain Karem, said his sources are indicating that this may be the next phase in Putin’s efforts to undermine the United States by exposing his help of Trump and further delegitimizing him. “What this may signal is that Putin has no more use for Trump,” he said. “The timing was specifically made for after he was exhorted in Congress…

This may be further psy-ops, said panelist Ryan Lizza, who pointed out that Vladimir Putin has a long record of denying and later admitting his actions.

“This is part of a vast covert action campaign run out of the Kremlim,” said panelist Robert Baer. “They’re using these proxies, like this lawyer… the old model of using the KGB has been dropped… Putin is bragging about this.”



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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/putin-no-use-trump-cnn-analyst-explains-trump-tower-lawyer-just-admitted-kremlin-connections/
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'Putin has no further use for Trump': Why Natalia Veselnitskaya admitted to being Russian agent (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
Kick and Rec! orangecrush Apr 2018 #1
Very strange she would admit that.... awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #2
He still has leverage on him, whether they hint at collusion or not... bettyellen Apr 2018 #7
Not if he knows Mueller or the FBI has discovered and confirmed that leverage. Xolodno Apr 2018 #19
Exactly! That's sort of what I was trying to say- his window for a PR victory is likely closing ... bettyellen Apr 2018 #20
Not surprising. Turbineguy Apr 2018 #3
Repair? I doubt that they have that in their play book. WhiteTara Apr 2018 #15
It could be a sort of warning also JI7 Apr 2018 #4
Pooty has nothing to lose. nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #5
+1 WhiteTara Apr 2018 #16
K&R. It is all a psyop to make us crazy. pResident Catasrophuck should be nowhere near the rzemanfl Apr 2018 #6
Very interesting. kentuck Apr 2018 #8
What if she was arrested? kentuck Apr 2018 #9
Depends on who did the arresting, I think. DonViejo Apr 2018 #12
That's an interesting take. And .. ananda Apr 2018 #10
Honestly not worth the energy to ponder. Wait for Mueller Raven123 Apr 2018 #11
That is what I thought yesterday when I first heard BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #13
Would LOVE to hear Malcolm Nance on this! Hekate Apr 2018 #14
Ridiculous, Putin would have and does have use for the current President of the United States njhoneybadger Apr 2018 #17
That admission is Putin gibraltar72 Apr 2018 #18
+1, just like his two ambassadors in the oval office after US press was told to leave uponit7771 Apr 2018 #21
"My work here is done . . . . " hatrack Apr 2018 #22

awesomerwb1

(4,269 posts)
2. Very strange she would admit that....
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 05:27 PM
Apr 2018

but I don't believe putin has no further use for cheeto.

Could be just a "friendly reminder" to cheeto and the gop.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. He still has leverage on him, whether they hint at collusion or not...
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 05:38 PM
Apr 2018

And he knows that leverage is going to be gone eventually. So he flexes his muscles a while longer.
I thought the “we don’t care about who is on your government” stuff is image management.

Xolodno

(6,410 posts)
19. Not if he knows Mueller or the FBI has discovered and confirmed that leverage.
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 08:30 PM
Apr 2018

In which case, its a question of who looks better breaking the news.

Putin playing the US President like a fiddle and admitting it makes him look very good to the audience he wants. Waiting for us to announce it, makes him look like trying to duck having his hand in the cookie jar.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. Exactly! That's sort of what I was trying to say- his window for a PR victory is likely closing ...
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 10:15 PM
Apr 2018

And in the meantime he is still able to keep sanctions at bay and keep Trump at his beck and call about Syria... but he knows it’s likely not for long. Crazy stuff.

Turbineguy

(37,412 posts)
3. Not surprising.
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 05:28 PM
Apr 2018

Putin should have left things alone. He fucked up. Trump has no business being President. With Mrs. Clinton, Putin could have a had a good, fair, working relationship. He has to start from scratch now. He has to repair the damage they've done.

WhiteTara

(29,732 posts)
15. Repair? I doubt that they have that in their play book.
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:55 PM
Apr 2018

More chaos for us. More opportunity for them.

rzemanfl

(29,581 posts)
6. K&R. It is all a psyop to make us crazy. pResident Catasrophuck should be nowhere near the
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 05:36 PM
Apr 2018

White House.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
8. Very interesting.
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 06:59 PM
Apr 2018

Maybe Putin has decided that Trump cannot deliver on his promises and has decided to work at division and chaos within our system?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
12. Depends on who did the arresting, I think.
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:10 PM
Apr 2018

Of course, Putin could do the "I don't know this crazy lady, she's lying." Trump then announces, "see, I told you, NO COLLUSION!"

BigmanPigman

(51,650 posts)
13. That is what I thought yesterday when I first heard
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:46 PM
Apr 2018

about it...

"I heard that Putin is OK with her confession since this is the standard Russian game.

First they deny everything...wide eyed innocence and indignation. Then it is followed by the true story where they sit back and laugh at us for being so naive. Then they celebrate with vodka shots at how clever they are at making the US a laughing stock with no self respect or respect from former allies. This IS the cold war version 2018...it is an ongoing cyber war and we are screwed.

She is not in danger at all. In fact Putin probably told her to say it."

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
14. Would LOVE to hear Malcolm Nance on this!
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:51 PM
Apr 2018

Am away from most news this Fri thru Sun, which I don't regret, but I'm getting really curious!

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