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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:34 PM Apr 2018

The Campaign for Donald Trump's Nobel Peace Prize Has Begun

By Adam K. Raymond

April 27, 2018
10:25 am

On Friday, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un and South Korean president Moon Jae-in came together for a historic meeting that resulted in a once-unimaginable pledge: The two nations will work to officially end the Korean War and denuclearize the peninsula.

Who deserves credit for this momentous meeting and the push toward peace? Donald Trump, says South Korean foreign minister Kang Kyung-wha. “He’s been determined to come to grips with this from day one,” she recently told CNN.

And he may soon have a Nobel Peace Prize to show for it. Trump and Kim are currently the favorites to win the prize, according to one British oddsmaker, and some of Trump’s aides are telling reporters that a lasting thaw between North and South Korea should win Trump the award.

Senator Lindsey Graham, not one of Trump’s biggest fans in the upper chamber, agrees. “It’s the biggest change since the end of the hostilities,” Graham said on Fox News Friday. “What happened? Donald Trump convinced North Korea and China he was serious about bringing about change.”

“We’re not there yet, but if this happens, President Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize,” he said.

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The Campaign for Donald Trump's Nobel Peace Prize Has Begun (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
He could very well be the first white convict to ever win it. dameatball Apr 2018 #1
No. Just No. irisblue Apr 2018 #2
Trump deserves 'little credit' for peace agreement, experts say struggle4progress Apr 2018 #3
Bwubbttt.... uh bublawah.... WHAT????? Takket Apr 2018 #4
Just about anyone can be nominated, but does anyone really think the reviewing committee hlthe2b Apr 2018 #5
No. I was just about to post the same sentiment underpants Apr 2018 #11
He better the hell not. Must he crap on everything? nolabear Apr 2018 #6
Jesus f*cking tapdancing Christ on a cracker....Trump has had jack shit to do with this!!!!! Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #7
Ha ha kimbutgar Apr 2018 #16
Lmao...thanks Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #20
Claiming wins on North Korea before the game really starts struggle4progress Apr 2018 #8
I'm not worried. Trump will soon fuck it up lunatica Apr 2018 #9
The Peace Prize for "fire and fury like the world has never known?" Hortensis Apr 2018 #10
... While these most recent sanctions were US-led under the administration of President Trump, struggle4progress Apr 2018 #12
China also said they would NOT be having another war on the Korean Peninsula Thekaspervote Apr 2018 #18
The people who award the Nobel Peace Prize are smarter than that. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #13
If the Nobel Peace Prize is about North Korea then it should go to China's underthematrix Apr 2018 #14
That's funny seeing as how Shitler workinclasszero Apr 2018 #15
In my humble opinion, giving Trump ANY Nobel prize will diminish its honor overall. Frustratedlady Apr 2018 #17
Amen to that Thekaspervote Apr 2018 #19
AGREE here! Make that a bluestarone Apr 2018 #22
Honestly, is there anything Trump has done to bring this about? smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #21

dameatball

(7,409 posts)
1. He could very well be the first white convict to ever win it.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:40 PM
Apr 2018

Only reason I say that is I think Mandela won it after release, but not sure.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
3. Trump deserves 'little credit' for peace agreement, experts say
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:41 PM
Apr 2018

US President Donald Trump has taken some credit for the peace agreement between North Korea and South Korea, but experts have said he deserves little of it.

In a historic and opulent ceremony, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and South Korean President Moon Jae-in met in the Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) to sign the Panmunjom Declaration for Peace, Prosperity and Unification of the Korean Peninsula during the Inter-Korean Summit and officially ended the war that began when the north and south split in a battle over communism and democracy that began on 25 June 1950.

After the summit on Friday morning, the US president immediately tweeted: “KOREAN WAR TO END! The United States, and all of its GREAT people, should be very proud of what is now taking place in Korea!” implying that he played an important part in it ...

Alison Evans, Deputy Head of Asia Pacific Country Risk, at the research firm IHS Markit said her “assessment is that Trump should receive minimal, if any, credit” ...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/north-korea-south-korea-donald-trump-korean-war-nuclear-weapons-a8326321.html

hlthe2b

(102,520 posts)
5. Just about anyone can be nominated, but does anyone really think the reviewing committee
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:43 PM
Apr 2018

(largely Europeans) would award Donald Trump the Nobel? Maybe S. Korea's Moon Jae-in, but Trump?

underpants

(183,014 posts)
11. No. I was just about to post the same sentiment
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:49 PM
Apr 2018

I'd be quite shocked if that crowd would seriously consider him even if nominated

nolabear

(42,002 posts)
6. He better the hell not. Must he crap on everything?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:43 PM
Apr 2018

I know he will on anything he can but is it going to just be allowed? Doesn’t anything mean anything?

I need a new planet.

Docreed2003

(16,900 posts)
7. Jesus f*cking tapdancing Christ on a cracker....Trump has had jack shit to do with this!!!!!
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:44 PM
Apr 2018

Trump will definitely take credit for this shit...but will we allow it is the question!

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struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
8. Claiming wins on North Korea before the game really starts
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:44 PM
Apr 2018

By Aaron Blake April 27 at 11:27 AM

... If there's one thing everyone agrees upon, it's that the “process” is really just beginning. The news was big, if not unprecedented, but we've had agreements between North and South Korea before, and they haven't panned out ...

Trump's tweets weren't just spiking the football but “spiking the ball while still in the locker room before the coin is tossed to start the game,” said Thomas Weiss, a scholar at the City University of New York who has studied North Korea.

As The Post's Anna Fifield notes, talks between Korean leaders in 2000 led to the South Korean president getting a Nobel Peace Prize. But it was later revealed that the meeting included a $500 million payoff to the North, and six years later North Korea detonated its first nuclear weapon. President Bill Clinton in 1994 prematurely declared a deal that a denuclearization deal meant “an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean Peninsula.” And President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s floated a U.S. troop withdrawal from the peninsula before negotiations fell apart ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/27/trump-is-claiming-north-korea-wins-before-the-game-really-starts/?utm_term=.5365cab5c1e4

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
12. ... While these most recent sanctions were US-led under the administration of President Trump,
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 05:49 PM
Apr 2018

it may be China's recent enforcement of UN sanctions that hit North Korea hardest. China accounts for more than 90% of North Korea's trade, and while the Security Council member voted in favour of the UN sanctions against their long-time ally, they rarely upheld those, reports the Council on Foreign Relations. However, in this past year, China appears to have enforced the sanctions ...

This is a return to the Sunshine Policy of Presidents Kim Dae-Jung (1999-2003) and Roh Moo-Hyun (2003-2008), who were the only other two South Korean presidents to meet North Korean leadership - during the Inter-Korean Summits of 2000 and 2007. Kim Dae-jung won a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts.

"More credit should go to the South Koreans, because they actually made sure to have the North Koreans come to the Olympics and that was organised very very quickly," said senior lecturer Dr Virginie Grzelczyk, of Aston University. "The invitation to have the North Korean delegation and Kim Jong-un's sister…has been really critical to organise the summit that we are going to see at the end of the week" ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43895428

Thekaspervote

(32,820 posts)
18. China also said they would NOT be having another war on the Korean Peninsula
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:47 PM
Apr 2018

China speaks, N Korea listens... they have too

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. That's funny seeing as how Shitler
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:04 PM
Apr 2018

didn’t do a damn thing to bring peace anywhere in this world.

The two leaders of NK and the RoK did it all themselves I’d say.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
17. In my humble opinion, giving Trump ANY Nobel prize will diminish its honor overall.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:23 PM
Apr 2018

Anything that has his name on it is now diminished. We are diminished because he is where he is.

I would just be sick to see that happen. I can't believe anything he has done brought about this possible change in relationships between North and South Korea. If anything, he caused delay.

I think the Olympics (and his sister attending) had more to do with it than anything. She seemed happy while attending and probably took her thoughts back to her crazy brother and convinced him it was time to "make nice" and let their people flow freely between the two countries. That has nagged at the back of my brain since the Olympics ended. He seemed to mellow right after she returned to North Korea.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. Honestly, is there anything Trump has done to bring this about?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:53 PM
Apr 2018

I don't see it, but maybe I am missing something. I just can't stand the idea of him thinking that HE did this.

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