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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA judge put a stay on Stormy's lawsuit for 90 days.
due to Cohen pleading the 5th. Her attorney is already making a filing against the decision.
Will this nightmare for the country ever end?????
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Be sure to thank the conservatives you run into before you run out of gratitude.
But this does seem to finally be a bump in what her attorney said has been a wonderfully smooth road where everything was going their way.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Avenatti will be able to deal with this.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but I'm sure he hates to lose momentum with the press, even if it does open up time to tend to other business back home.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Reminds me of an extremely attractive man who just walked up to me in a hallway, leaned over, and looked deeply into my eyes. When I came to I learned he'd been my anesthetist. Four decades ago and I've never forgotten him, though. Sigh...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Whether or not this proceeding results in invalidating the hush agreement with Stormy Daniels, I'm not sure what the consequences of national importance would be either way.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)To me it read as the nightmare being tRump. When will THAT ever end. But the OP can speak for themselves.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...but whether Daniels is or is not released from the alleged agreement is not a question of national importance.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)I thought it was evident that was what I was referring to.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Most prefer the slicks of peanut-butter coverage that join news and weather as fillings between the thick slabs of commercials in the evening news.
triron
(22,003 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Why do you believe that it would require bribing a judge to obtain a 90 day stay?
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.704250/gov.uscourts.cacd.704250.53.0.pdf
" It is also quite possible that the
outcome of the criminal inves
tigation will benefit the parties
and the Court by streamlining the
issues and questions presented in this action.
Accordingly, the interests of judicial efficiency
weigh in favor of a temporary stay. "
Believe it or not, the interest of the court per se in a matter is simply finding the most efficient way of disposing of it. What the court is essentially saying here is that letting the criminal proceeding go forward for a while might lead to a shorter path for dealing with this civil lawsuit.
manor321
(3,344 posts)What a goddamned joke. The criminal case is going to drag on and on and on as the lawyers try to slow it down. They already inserted a special master into the thing to slow it down. A 90 day wait just makes Stormy wait even longer for justice. It's disgusting.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)At this point, we really don't know what, specifically, was the crime for which probable cause led to the search. While a whole lot of stuff was included in the scope of the search, it is a fairly binary decision of "they found what they were looking for" or "they didn't".
As far as "waiting for justice", Judge Otero addressed that during the hearing. The only thing that Daniels is seeking (in the part of the complaint that won't be separated out by SLAPP) is a declaration that the contract was invalid, so that she can get out from under enforcement of the arbitration decision. Since enforcement of the arbitration decision is, as a consequence of this suit, itself tied up, it's not as if she has to pay whatever it was.
But the notion that she remains effectively prohibited from telling her story, is sort of a matter of horses that have long left the barn. She engaged in a, what shall we say, liaison, with Trump in Tahoe, communicated with him periodically over whether she could get onto The Apprentice, watched Shark Week in LA without any sex, and further states that she was threatened in 2011 (and has released a sketch of the suspect, who is long subject to the statute of limitations civilly or criminally). The formation of the agreement itself was something of a joke, she got the money, and when she started dropping hints about it in January, Cohen threatened to enforce the agreement unless she signed a denial. She signed the denial, continued to be ambiguous, and Cohen got an arbitration award in February. Subsequently, this suit was filed. The story is pretty well fleshed out, right down to a slap on the tighty whities.
If the idea is that this delays any sort of monetary judgment in her favor, I'm not sure where that comes from. The first consequence of a ruling that the contract was invalid is that she would have to pay back the $130k. You can't claim that a contract under which you got paid $130k is invalid, and then claim you are entitled to keep the money under the contract.
McDougal - who had a longer and more involved relationship with Trump - has already settled that suit and is free to talk. She's not really doing a whole lot of talking, because she is likewise in talks with a publisher who is actually going to publish this time.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)best believe he has ACES up his sleeve.
dem4decades
(11,289 posts)I hope she still gets to seek justice from Trump.
cilla4progress
(24,731 posts)He expected this, though opposed it in his filings.
Ive also heard better to unseat trump after Dems take the House this fall, rather than while Rs are in charge and can install Pence.
Makes sense to me.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Impeach them both?
Be realistic. 2/3 of the Senate need to convict. It's never happened.
cilla4progress
(24,731 posts)Foot drag. Take advantage of any opening.
Not to mention Pence is implicated. Investigate, Benghazi-style. Throw mud and see what sticks.
Get creative.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)You'd better gird your loins. We've only just started.
At this point, I put Trump's odds of re-election >50%, and the chance of his Impeachment and Conviction anytime during his 2 terms at 0%.
The odds of him suspending the Constitution to remain President in 2024 are better than his Impeachment.
We're on the verge of an Autocracy, not the salvation of our Republic.
0rganism
(23,953 posts)lots of pollyanna posts around here about how Democrats are going to fix everything once we "fer shure guaranteed" win the house in 2018. i have a strong sense that we are in for an exceedingly rude awakening.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)As fast and flexible as he is to jump on opportunities hes just as able to absorb any setbacks. His reactions are quick and fluid. Its quite interesting to watch.
hatrack
(59,585 posts)cilla4progress
(24,731 posts)Stated in open court it appears Cohen will be indicted!
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)This doesn't sound too good for Cohen.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/27/trump-stormy-daniels-case-delay-558294
U.S. District Court Judge S. James Otero said it appeared likely that Cohen would be indicted in connection with the ongoing investigation, which led to search warrant raids on Cohens home, office and hotel room in New York earlier this month.
onecaliberal
(32,858 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)and am trying to understand the legal lingo. From what I have gathered from people who understand the law the judges are making pretty understandable and realistic decisions. It sure is confusing though.