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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow all four service chiefs have said they are okay with trans people in the military
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All 4 service chiefs on record: No harm to units from transgender service
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/24/all-4-service-chiefs-on-record-no-harm-to-unit-from-transgender-service/
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Plaintiff Cathrine Schmid, second from left, listens as attorney Natalie Nardecchia speaks in front of a federal courthouse following a hearing March 27, 2018, in Seattle. U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman says she won't immediately consider President Donald Trump's new policy banning transgender people from serving in the military. (Elaine Thompson/AP)
Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Dave Goldfein told Congress Tuesday he was not aware of any negative effects from transgender personnel serving, joining all three other service chiefs in a rare public split with President Donald Trump over the issue.
Sen. Kristen Gillibrand, D-N.Y., as she had with the top military leaders of the Army, Navy and Marine Corps when they appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee for their budget hearings, used the opportunity to question Goldfein as to whether he was aware of any issues of unit cohesion, disciplinary problems or issues of morale resulting from open transgender service.
In the last two weeks Gen. [Mark] Milley, Gen. [Robert] Neller, and Adm. [John] Richardson have told me that they have seen zero reports of issues of cohesion, discipline, morale as a result of open transgender service in their respective service branches, Gillibrand said, referring to the chiefs of staff of the Army, Marine Corps and Navy, respectively.
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Now all four service chiefs have said they are okay with trans people in the military
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/04/now-four-service-chiefs-said-okay-trans-people-military/
By Alex Bollinger ·
Wednesday, April 25, 2018
The Air Force Chief of Staff said that he was not aware of any negative effects of transgender people serving in the military, joining the other three chiefs of staff.
General Dave Goldfein appeared at a Senate committee hearing yesterday.
He was questioned by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, who said, In the last two weeks General Milley, General Neller, and Admiral Richardson have told me that they have seen zero reports of issues of cohesion, discipline, morale as a result of open transgender service in their respective service branches, referring to the chiefs of the Army, Marine Corps, and Navy.
She then asked him if he knew of any reports of such issues. Goldfein said he was not. He said that he talked to a few transgender service members and was impressed by the commitment to serve by each of them.
Last week, Army Chief of Staff Mark Milley testified that he had heard of precisely zero reports of problems with transgender soldiers. Marine Commandant General Robert Neller said he was not aware of any issues in those areas. Chief of Naval Operations Admiral John Richardson said its steady as she goes regarding transgender people in the Navy.
The statements bolster the lawsuits against Donald Trumps transgender military ban. Discrimination is only legal if the government has a good reason; the service chiefs are proving the government doesnt.
Federal judges in these cases have already found that the ban is a form of sex discrimination, and one federal judge went so far as to say that transgender people are a protected class. This raises the burden of proof for the government: it has to show that the transgender military ban serves a real policy purpose and that its the best way to achieve that purpose.
Since Trump tweeted the transgender military ban last July, judges have had trouble even seeing what its policy goal is, much less find that goal important enough to justify discrimination. This is why politicians hold hearings and commission reports before passing laws, even if their minds are already made up: they want to show the world and the courts what problem the law is supposed to fix and how itll fix it.........................................
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Now all four service chiefs have said they are okay with trans people in the military (Original Post)
riversedge
Apr 2018
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malthaussen
(17,235 posts)1. It wouldn't be the first time an Administration has acted counter...
... to the expressed will of the services.
-- Mal
riversedge
(70,441 posts)2. agree, but this only has to do with trumps bigotry, nothing else.