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ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:10 PM Apr 2018

on yesterday's Trump rant.

I have a brother who is bi-polar and has been off his meds for over six months. Talking to him on the phone is just like this Trump rant from yesterday's Fox and Friends show.

He gets on the phone with some introductory issue, and then he gets on a jag with many many digressions, until it takes him a half hour to get anything said. ( I usually put him on speaker and go about my business). You can't say anything back unless you forcefully interrupt his train of "thought". He has no control and gets more and more excited. The same with things he is trying to get done: constantly distracted by other things, spinning his wheels, using bad judgement.

He is very full of himself, is absolutely certain that he is right and everyone else wrong. Seems to be having a great time, but of course is engaging in self destructive behavior like spending too much money and hanging out with questionable people.

He was on lithium for over 25 years and did fine. But somehow started taking too much because of changing age or weight or something. He's in his early 60s. At the hospital they told him to adjust his dose to half. But he has decided that lithium almost killed him and wants/needs no more meds. Well being off his meds is more likely to do him harm, with his lack of impulse control and confused thinking. And nobody can tell him anything. We are planning an intervention by something called Adult Protective Services.

Wonder if they also do house calls at the White House?

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on yesterday's Trump rant. (Original Post) ginnyinWI Apr 2018 OP
John Heilemann said pretty much the same thing on MSNBC last night. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #1
I agree w/ us... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #2
As someone who has partook in illicit substances on occasion and who have been around others who Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #3
Not sure I agree. murielm99 Apr 2018 #9
Fair enough....but we can both agree that no matter what it is....it ain't good ! nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #10
Yep. murielm99 Apr 2018 #11
my brother sounds like he's on something, ginnyinWI Apr 2018 #12
Yesterday he said Cohen is working the 'crazy Stormy Daniels case' for him. poboy2 Apr 2018 #4
This was pointed out many times on all the non-Fox cable shows. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #6
Okay, thank you. I must have missed it. Seems it would be a headline type watershed. poboy2 Apr 2018 #7
Could be, I suppose. Orsino Apr 2018 #5
Our Daughter who Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #8
so there we go. ginnyinWI Apr 2018 #13
As per the Daughter, Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #14

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,981 posts)
1. John Heilemann said pretty much the same thing on MSNBC last night.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:16 PM
Apr 2018

He said he thought Trump sounded "manic." Could be.

SWBTATTReg

(22,205 posts)
2. I agree w/ us...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:21 PM
Apr 2018

RUMP has always sounded crazy and I know that he doesn't drink. Something else is up and wondered what it was.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
3. As someone who has partook in illicit substances on occasion and who have been around others who
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:23 PM
Apr 2018

have..this muthafucka was on something yesterday morning at that is that. I have not really believed that before...until yesterday morning...this was outside his usual ranting and raving.

It was more frenetic.

Granted...fear could also play a role here but I firmly believe he was on something.

murielm99

(30,783 posts)
9. Not sure I agree.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:56 PM
Apr 2018

My mother most likely has a personality disorder. She often sounds like this. It's not a full meltdown, but a prelude to a meltdown.

Look out!

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
4. Yesterday he said Cohen is working the 'crazy Stormy Daniels case' for him.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:25 PM
Apr 2018

Maybe I am wrong, but is this not admission that HE IS DD/Daniel Dennison?

That is a first no? If so, why isn't that more newsworthy?

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
7. Okay, thank you. I must have missed it. Seems it would be a headline type watershed.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:33 PM
Apr 2018

Lead the evening news material/level stuff.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Could be, I suppose.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018

Trump's extemporaneous speech has always read to me like deflection. He spits random words at people to make uncomfortable questions go away; what's more, everything he says that isn't scripted comes across as bluffing, a word salad intended to sound confident and knowledgeable but is anything but. His bluffs are almost never called, so there is no reason to expect this behavior to change.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Our Daughter who
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:55 PM
Apr 2018

monitors Mental Health Cases,said this,Trump has all tie Indicators of someone who is suffering form Age Relate Bi-Polar Syndrome.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
13. so there we go.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018

He may have only started being bi-polar later.

I can imagine him not sleeping very well, and running through all of his "best hits" rants, then get all wound up and spit them out on Fox and Friends.

My bi-polar brother, by the way, has irregular sleeping and eating patterns now that he's not on meds. He is losing a lot of weight, that he couldn't afford to lose--is about 140 lbs at 5'10". I think he forgets to eat, and is up all hours of the night.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. As per the Daughter,
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:53 PM
Apr 2018

Bi-Polarism is becoming a major missed issues with older persons. Another Freind who manages Home health care persons,has also said,this is a major Mental Health issue. She has been doing Training Sessions with her Care Givers in order to spot signs of Bi-Polarism that might be masked as Dementia. And getting the Patients Doctor involved..

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