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jes06c

(114 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:29 PM Apr 2018

What is the libertarian justification for opposing strikes?

My wife participated in the teacher's strike in Arizona today. In the days leading up to this strike, I've been hearing a lot of self-proclaimed libertarians on TV, radio, Facebook, and in real life opposing not just this particular strike, but ANY strike, and defending Arizona for being a right to work state. That got me wondering, what exactly is the libertarian justification for this? Libertarians claim to be for as small as government as possible, and for promoting as much personal freedom as possible. So why are all these libertarians so indifferent to the right of workers to withhold labor, or the right of workers to try to renegotiate for better pay and working conditions?

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What is the libertarian justification for opposing strikes? (Original Post) jes06c Apr 2018 OP
They aren't against the right to strike marylandblue Apr 2018 #1
I didn't think of that jes06c Apr 2018 #4
Same as the Republican justification. slumcamper Apr 2018 #2
Because they're emotionally stunted idiots. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #3
True libertarians dont oppose strikes hueymahl Apr 2018 #5
Bingo misanthrope Apr 2018 #6
Libertarians do not like unions... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #7
They dont oppose group action Or unions at all hueymahl Apr 2018 #10
They live in a delusion of rugged individualism RockRaven Apr 2018 #8
Libertarians cannot name one civilization in the history of mankind that practiced their ideology Yavin4 Apr 2018 #9
They don't beleive in government, so why would they think public employees can strike? RhodeIslandOne Apr 2018 #11
They do not like Democracy. safeinOhio Apr 2018 #12

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. They aren't against the right to strike
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:34 PM
Apr 2018

They just think if you go on strike, you should be immediately replaced by a scab.

jes06c

(114 posts)
4. I didn't think of that
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:43 PM
Apr 2018

My suspicion was that a lot of these libertarians are closeted Republicans who think that it's hipper to identify as libertarian, but this makes sense too

slumcamper

(1,607 posts)
2. Same as the Republican justification.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:38 PM
Apr 2018

A good share of self-proclaimed "Libertarians" have adopted the label because REPUBLICAN is increasingly disgusting and toxic.

A piss poor attempt to put lipstick on the pig they are, IMHO.

Wounded Bear

(58,773 posts)
7. Libertarians do not like unions...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:58 PM
Apr 2018

In their minds, private property rights are paramount, and workers have no right to oppose management/ownership beyond quitting and getting a different job or suing for their rights-restricted as they may be in that world. They think each worker must "negotiate" with the boss for their individual pay scale and should not be allowed to band together to do so.

Ultimately they favor individuality, and if that means one individual achieves monopoly status, so be it. Certainly, Libertarians do not believe the government should intervene in worker/owner relationships at all. Owners do what they like, workers should abey, quit, or try to sue-but without any support beyond their own individual means. No group efforts allowed.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
10. They dont oppose group action Or unions at all
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:30 PM
Apr 2018

They oppose laws protecting group action or unions. Virtually every “libertarian” you see on tv is really just a conservative who has no idea what he or she is talking about when it comes to libertarian ideology. If you are talking about that ilk, you are correct.

I know this sounds a bit pedantic, but I think it is important to know your enemy.

RockRaven

(15,076 posts)
8. They live in a delusion of rugged individualism
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:22 PM
Apr 2018

and collective bargaining runs counter to that.

Also, the result of unions effectively striking is often higher wages/more benefits, and when the unions are public employees that would mean more government spending, which they think means higher taxes, which they hate axiomatically.

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
9. Libertarians cannot name one civilization in the history of mankind that practiced their ideology
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:28 PM
Apr 2018

successfully. In fact, the vast majority of civilizations throughout the history of mankind practiced some sort of communal organization to one degree or another.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
11. They don't beleive in government, so why would they think public employees can strike?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 PM
Apr 2018

Libertarians think if you strike, you should just quit and find another job and not trouble the nice person good enough to give you a job.

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