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TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:50 PM Apr 2018

House GOP conservatives kicking off an Evangelical vs. Catholic cage match?

Conservative leader: Next House chaplain should have a family

“I’m probably looking for somebody more of a non-denominational background, that has a multicultural congregation,” said Walker, who is leading the search for a new chaplain with Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.), a pastor, and Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.), an Air Force Reserve chaplain.

Some Catholic Democrats erupted upon hearing Walker’s comments. Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) said some lawmakers had surmised that Ryan’s move was designed to appease anti-Catholic sentiments in the GOP conference. Walker, Connolly said, “is now confirming our fears.”


I have to wonder how much the current Pope's vocal concern for social issues, the poor, refugees, responsible stewardship of the environment, and other stuff the GOP would like out of sight and out of mind is affecting this.

There are certainly plenty of hardcore troglodyte American Catholics, in Holy Orders and in the congregations, who are also unhappy with the shift in emphasis. But my Catholic friends and family report that there is a very definite propagation of a more "Red-Letter Gospel" approach. And there are plenty of very liberal clergy in the various Orders who are invigorated and encouraged.

If this kind of stupidity pries apart the religious conservative coalition, it may actually be a positive development for Democrats. But it will put many in a tough position, because with all the will in the world to embrace the more liberal social agenda, the hardline anti-choice agenda will not be going away.

conflictedly,
Bright
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House GOP conservatives kicking off an Evangelical vs. Catholic cage match? (Original Post) TygrBright Apr 2018 OP
I have long believed the tali-bornagains JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #1
I remember the 1960 election with JFK left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #2
I remember that. There was a lot of fearmongering about... TygrBright Apr 2018 #3
Because the Prince of Peace would really get into it. milestogo Apr 2018 #4
Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Initech Apr 2018 #5
should have a family? Trump already has 3 dembotoz Apr 2018 #6
Evangelicals ignore the teachings of Christ. pwb Apr 2018 #7
exactly gopiscrap Apr 2018 #8
Maybe they could appoint a Rabbi - Jesus was a Rabbi (teacher) wasn't he? rurallib Apr 2018 #9
Not sure how formal that title was back then... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #11
How many SC Justices are Catholic? Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #10
there were 6 when Scalia died rurallib Apr 2018 #13
My bad, thanks for the clarification... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #14
13 out of 113 RB TexLa Apr 2018 #15
Jesus never married and didn't have kids Jake Stern Apr 2018 #12
Theocracy will never work jes06c Apr 2018 #16

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
1. I have long believed the tali-bornagains
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:54 PM
Apr 2018

never considered the Catholics in their merry band of assholes to be one of them, just useful idiots. If these lunatics ever achieved the theocracy they think they want the Catholics would be rounded up with the atheists, gays, trans, and everyone else they hate.

Maybe they will get some kind of clue now? Probably not.

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
3. I remember that. There was a lot of fearmongering about...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:01 PM
Apr 2018

...how if a Catholic President was elected, the Pope would end up running the country.

Conservatives look poised on the edge of pulling that one back out of the archive now.

interestedly,
Bright

pwb

(11,261 posts)
7. Evangelicals ignore the teachings of Christ.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:18 PM
Apr 2018

Just like republicans. Most nondenominational preachers in this country preach the Old Testament . You won't even see a crucifix in their churches and if your lucky Jesus may be mentioned maybe once during a service.

rurallib

(62,410 posts)
9. Maybe they could appoint a Rabbi - Jesus was a Rabbi (teacher) wasn't he?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:40 PM
Apr 2018

or maybe they could compromise on an atheist?

or show that they are inclusive and pick a Muslim?

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
11. Not sure how formal that title was back then...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:46 PM
Apr 2018

IIRC it translates directly as "teacher" or something similar.

rurallib

(62,410 posts)
13. there were 6 when Scalia died
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:08 PM
Apr 2018

I think the other 3 were Jewish?

Sotomayer, Kennedy, Roberts, Alito, Thomas - catholic - Scalia was Catholic also
Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan - Jewish

Gorsuch - raised Catholic now episcopal

jes06c

(114 posts)
16. Theocracy will never work
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:20 AM
Apr 2018

Constantine I made this mistake. He thought that he could use the new Christian religion to unify the fragmenting Roman Empire. Previously, Roman persecution had forced the various Christian sects to grit their teeth and band together in order to survive. As soon as the persecution ended, the rival Christian factions turned against each other, and arguably left the Empire more divided than ever.

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