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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Senate Special Counsel Bill passes Judiciary Committee 14-7
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Grassley, Tillis, Graham and Flake voted "aye".
wryter2000
(46,130 posts)Maybe the Republican logjam has broken.
spooky3
(34,525 posts)wryter2000
(46,130 posts)n/t
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)That can be done to get around him but I might be muddling it with parliamentary rules. If there's not, there should be.
Vinca
(50,326 posts)I hope what I'm thinking of isn't something that just applies to the House and not the Senate.
Stryst
(714 posts)But in the mid 90's the Hastert Rule got passed. The Hastert Rule says that the Speaker will not schedule a floor vote on any bill that does not have majority support within his or her party even if the majority of the members of the House would vote to pass it. The rule keeps the minority party from passing bills with the assistance of a minority of majority party members.
caraher
(6,279 posts)But it isn't binding at all - it's just a practice (Republican) Speakers use to reduce the risk of a minority party getting anything done.
A Speaker could ignore it any time they like - and in fact, Pelosi disregarded the rule seven times as Speaker
BumRushDaShow
(129,953 posts)The only thing is, whether use of that rule is applicable to the type of resolution being presented.
Privileged Motions.
Fix the Time to which to Adjourn (if made while another question is pending) 16
Adjourn (if unqualified and if it has not the effect to dissolve the assembly) 17
Take a Recess (if made when another question is pending) 18
Raise a Question of Privilege 19
Call for Orders of the Day 20
http://www.rulesonline.com/rror-02.htm#14
Questions of privilege may relate to the privileges of the assembly or only of a member, the former having the precedence if the two come into competition. Questions of personal privilege must relate to one as a member of the assembly, or else relate to charges against his character which, if true, would incapacitate him for membership. Questions like the following relate to the privileges of the assembly: those relating to the organization of the assembly; or to the comfort of its members, as the heating, lighting, ventilation, etc., of the hall, and freedom from noise and other disturbance; or to the conduct of its officers or employees; or to the punishing of a member for disorderly conduct or other offence; or to the conduct of reporters for the press, or to the accuracy of published reports of proceedings.
Privileged questions include, besides questions of privilege, a call for the orders of the day and the privileged motions relating to adjournment and recess. This distinction between privileged questions and questions of privilege should be borne in mind.
http://www.rulesonline.com/rror-03.htm#19
The House seems to do this more than the Senate but some recent examples were these -
GOP resolution to impeach IRS Commissioner. (resulted in passage of a "motion to refer to Committee" after the "motion to table" was defeated, but the former motion still pretty much killed it because the Commissioner would resign anyway due to the upcoming change in administration)
Al Green's impeachment resolution (resulted in passage of a "motion to table" which killed it)
Vinca
(50,326 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)maryallen
(2,172 posts)Then, a senator more amenable to our side could be elected to serve as leader.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)is afraid to vote on it. that's always been their big fear - getting called a traitor by limbaugh.
he spent a lot of time calling trump investigators and all the major players in the investigation guilty of crimes and the trump bunch innocent. hillary is the guilty one, and the russia thing is all a frame up.
the way to fix that is end the curse of limbaugh with total boycotts of all advertisers on rw radio and pressure on any university that braodcasts sports on rw stations - thats hundreds of schools and probably over 30% of RW radio - the loudest ones (here are 88 unis that support 260 limbaugh stations).
also by investigating whether limbaugh and hannity have been doing freelance work, maybe paid by trump, or even putin......
with talk radio in trouble those republicans won't feel half a intimidated by the base.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)There has to be a tipping point, even for them. This is good news.
malaise
(269,278 posts)Lock up the Con.
KPN
(15,677 posts)FakeNoose
(32,884 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)McCONnell blocked Obama warning state electoral commissions.
McCONnell's wife got cushy quiet cabinet post.
McCONnell get dual citizen Russian money for PACs.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)Much of the gop leadership did. That's the resistance. And it's finally cracking.
hlthe2b
(102,509 posts)S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)republican'ts can't drive out TraitorTrump themselves.
If the republican'ts do that, they will lose the racist/dumbass vote for a generation.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Otherwise, he'd better get on board.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Maybe Diane Feinstein took him aside and threatened to kick his saggy ass. So he did what he was told.
rurallib
(62,478 posts)for us rubes back home.
Knowing it has no chance of ever becoming law - won't come to the floor in senate, won't pass House, Trump would never sign - Grassley can act like a flaming liberal here and claim he is for openness.
This from the guy who refused Garland a hearing.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Maybe he knows he has nothing to lose by voting "aye" except maybe pissing off McConnell. OR...he and McTurtle had it "cooked-up" ahead of time. We shall see (I hope).
rurallib
(62,478 posts)Grass has been taking some hits back home for his unquestioning support of Trump.
Now he will have this to point to, while causing no danger to anything in their dismantling of government.
S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)...the GreedyOldPerverts need Mueller to help get rid of TraitorTrump.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I'll never forget the look on Feinstein's and Grassley's faces when they exited the secret intelligence briefing.
"Ashen" would be a good description. Grassley had no words and stared at his shoes and Feinstein looked sick as she apologized to the press that she couldn't disclose what they were briefed on. I knew right then that they had heard some really bad shit.
FakeNoose
(32,884 posts)They were already convinced on THAT DAY. And here we are, a year and 1/2 later, still kicking the same shit around.
awesomerwb1
(4,269 posts)Trust any gop politician at your own peril.
He's playing his angle, not clear what it is yet, but he's all in for party before country just like the rest of them.
Volaris
(10,278 posts)And has come to the conclusion that there's no calculation where, if they fuck around with this and get caught, they survive it.
At least now he can say publicly that he did what he could. As long as he keeps doing that, he be (maybe) ok.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Please say no. Please say no.
rurallib
(62,478 posts)The Senate Judiciary Committee will consider the Special Counsel Independence and Integrity Act on Thursday, bipartisan legislation to establish Justice Department guidelines for protecting special counsel investigations as law. Under the legislation, a special counsel could not be fired without cause and would a 10-day window to challenge a dismissal in federal court. A controversial amendment from Chairman Chuck Grassley that would have allowed Congress to micromanage investigations has been removed. That means Democratic support is likely there in committee, so now Grassley has to fight his own party and leadership.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)rurallib
(62,478 posts)and certainly wouldn't be signed by Trump.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,578 posts)Unless they are already far past the point of needing scrutiny to see if they are a RWNJ or not. Anyone in that boat ought to be aware that their position is:
"The WH is a corrupt mess, but I don't care."
rainin
(3,011 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)oasis
(49,480 posts)support for the Affordable Care Act. Grassley pretended a genuine interest in signing on, but did an about face and joined in on the GOP chant about "death panels".
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)red dog 1
(27,913 posts)ever gets to the House, and, of course, Shitler would never sign such a bill,
But, it does send a strong message to him.
If he does try to fire Mueller, his own party might rise up against him.