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How much of the false attacks on Joy Ann Reid are based on racism & sexism? (Original Post) TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 OP
a great % HipChick Apr 2018 #1
Racism and sexism plays a major role in these attacks Gothmog Apr 2018 #2
Lots mcar Apr 2018 #3
Everything you said plus her abilities as she is one of the sharpest out there & is threatening DylanUSC Apr 2018 #4
Yup. They are definitely coming from a privileged status. R B Garr Apr 2018 #5
Yep. K&R musette_sf Apr 2018 #6
with the added avantage of pitting one Dem group against others... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #7
What were her attacks on LGBTQs based on? leftstreet Apr 2018 #8
Do you understand her blog posts were from 10 yrs ago? And she apologized for them? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #10
actually no she isn't apologizing for these posts dsc Apr 2018 #11
If she didn't write them why should she apologize for them? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #12
that isn't remotely true dsc Apr 2018 #17
Why don't you try *READING* some contrary evidence, rather than the propaganda against her? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #18
you said ALL the evidence dsc Apr 2018 #19
I think that poster is saying that anything from Bernie groups or the far right R B Garr Apr 2018 #20
then he or she should have written that dsc Apr 2018 #22
There is more to the sequence of events you are describing. R B Garr Apr 2018 #28
"Evidence" from Breitbart is hardly evidence. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #21
Her lawyer works for Breitbart who knew dsc Apr 2018 #25
Her lawyer writes & edits for Breitbart? I don't think so. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #26
You are the one claiming the evidence is from Breitbart dsc Apr 2018 #27
You're not even going to try to look beyond the RW propaganda, are you? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #29
This is the point... if Joy's blog was hacked, we should ALL be outraged, period. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #30
The benefit of the doubt not being extended at all is so fucked up uponit7771 Apr 2018 #9
Could not agree more... I think most, however, share this view. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #31
Most. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #13
This guy is leading the attacks.. Cha Apr 2018 #14
And otherwise intelligent & well-informed people are falling for it. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #15
I'm not so impressed with the sources. Cha Apr 2018 #16
This is perhaps the most convincing reason to believe Joy's blog was hacked... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #32
It does, indeed, InAbLuEsTaTe Cha Apr 2018 #33
Everything. I am sick of this shit. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #23
It might be easier to figure out of much of ISN'T based on this EffieBlack Apr 2018 #24

R B Garr

(16,919 posts)
5. Yup. They are definitely coming from a privileged status.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:11 PM
Apr 2018

Jane Sanders quote on Joy Reid:

"I didn't answer your biased reporting about Bernie during the last 2 years"

Since when do candidates think they get to "answer" reporting as if they get the last say and only their "answers" matter. It is really a huge clue as to the mindset behind all this.

hlthe2b

(101,702 posts)
7. with the added avantage of pitting one Dem group against others...
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:34 PM
Apr 2018

Why can't some see that we are being played?

leftstreet

(36,076 posts)
8. What were her attacks on LGBTQs based on?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:34 PM
Apr 2018

(Yeah, yeah, I know...time traveling hackers tweaked her homophobic statements to make them even more homophobic. Uh, huh.)

But why was she talking that crap to begin with?

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
10. Do you understand her blog posts were from 10 yrs ago? And she apologized for them?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:15 PM
Apr 2018

While the racist & sexist attacks on her are happening right here, right now?

Are you going to stand against Joy Ann Reid & with some of the people that brought us the Donald Trump Show - Tucker Carlson, Breitbart, Wikileaks, & Glen Greenwald?

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
12. If she didn't write them why should she apologize for them?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:25 PM
Apr 2018

All the evidence points to her not writing them. None of her followers remember them, none of her editors remember them, they don't match her expressed views at the time, they have no replies, she was on the air working when they were supposedly posted, they're not written in the same style as she used, they used different wording, etc etc etc.

This whole thing is a set up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=ioBhGmfYDKo

dsc

(52,129 posts)
17. that isn't remotely true
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:54 PM
Apr 2018

I am not saying the evidence is conclusive that she did but her team is on record as saying that those posts were on her blog. Two different archives are on record claiming that those posts have been archived at different points in time and from different locations. Those are certainly not evidence she didn't write them.

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
18. Why don't you try *READING* some contrary evidence, rather than the propaganda against her?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:56 PM
Apr 2018

Like some of the replies to this thread?

dsc

(52,129 posts)
19. you said ALL the evidence
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:58 PM
Apr 2018

Does ALL mean something different that I think it does? I hope I don't need to go to dictionary.com

R B Garr

(16,919 posts)
20. I think that poster is saying that anything from Bernie groups or the far right
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:02 PM
Apr 2018

is suspiciously coordinated. There is ample evidence of this on other threads, other articles and an interview from Malcolm Nance about the dark web and viciousness of the attacks on Joy Reid because she does not fawn over Bernie.

"We now witness a carefully orchestrated media campaign by the far left and the far right.,,,"
Poster Gothmog has been posting this informative article:
https://medium.com/@investigator_21314/the-lynching-of-joy-ann-reid-by-the-bernie-left-c7de005a19fb

dsc

(52,129 posts)
22. then he or she should have written that
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:05 PM
Apr 2018

but he or she didn't. Reid is on record as saying the posts are from her blog. Both archives are on record as saying that the posts were backed up from multiple locations and multiple points in time. Are they part of this vast conspiracy as well.

R B Garr

(16,919 posts)
28. There is more to the sequence of events you are describing.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:17 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Below is a thread by DebbieDee of the Stephanie Miller show with Malcolm Nance explaining the dark web and how it is used to attack. The video is in the first posters reply.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210537954

There is another thread by poster mia which has information related to the hacking.

I think you might be missing some data about the sequence of events. Malcolm Nance explains how "Black Propaganda" deals with inserting false info into small kernels of truthful happenings. You can Google more of his literature on this. It looks like Joy Reid admitted to some long ago postings about Chris Christie and from there, an attack has been woven out of whole cloth.

Seriously, to make fun of a black female media person being targeted is a bit naïve if you can't see from the info already posted here that she is being attacked mostly because the Bernie bloggers don't like what she says about him. And the Mueller indictments should put to rest the mocking of "conspiracies" related to the Russian hackers. Both Bernie groups and the alt-right have a vested interested in attacking Joy Reid.

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
26. Her lawyer writes & edits for Breitbart? I don't think so.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:10 PM
Apr 2018

That's a real pathetic attack. Try again

dsc

(52,129 posts)
27. You are the one claiming the evidence is from Breitbart
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:14 PM
Apr 2018

her lawyer is who is saying the posts came from her blog. That is one of the piece of evidence I was discussing.

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
29. You're not even going to try to look beyond the RW propaganda, are you?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:18 PM
Apr 2018

Breitbart gave you your marching orders, and you're going to follow them 'till the end. No matter what.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
30. This is the point... if Joy's blog was hacked, we should ALL be outraged, period.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:29 PM
Apr 2018

If not, we should be outraged, just for different reasons. I give her the benefit of the doubt and will wait for all the facts to come out. (Wish we had done that in Al Franken's case... sigh)

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
31. Could not agree more... I think most, however, share this view.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:36 PM
Apr 2018

To my knowledge, evidence to the contrary has yet to be presented indicating it was not a hack job... as long as that's the case, Joy deserves our full support. The outrage should be directed at those who do such a thing.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
32. This is perhaps the most convincing reason to believe Joy's blog was hacked...
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:43 PM
Apr 2018

it does seem rather odd that there would be no comments reflecting outrage in response.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. Everything. I am sick of this shit.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:06 PM
Apr 2018

This is just another hatchet job on a liberal icon. Don't fall for it.

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