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egbertowillies

(4,058 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 03:09 PM Apr 2018

Venezuela, a clear example why one cannot trust the mainstream media

Every time I mention Venezuela and Hugo Chavez to my friends whether on the Right or the Left they all scoff. If there is one thing most of them agree on is that Hugo Chavez was terrible and that Nicolas Maduro is corrupt. That is what the supposedly objective media would have you believe. But here is the truth.

https://egbertowillies.com/2018/04/25/venezuela-mainstream-media/

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Venezuela, a clear example why one cannot trust the mainstream media (Original Post) egbertowillies Apr 2018 OP
A clear example why one cannot trust Egberto Willies. DetlefK Apr 2018 #1
I'd say there's no reason at all to paint Chavez as a hero, but there's no way western meddling JCanete Apr 2018 #2
Yes Maduro is doing a great job..if starvation is the target EX500rider Apr 2018 #3

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. A clear example why one cannot trust Egberto Willies.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 04:22 PM
Apr 2018

Catalonia attempting secession is not the same as the venezuelan opposition holding a referendum on laws.

It's also a little bit weird the author fails to note that Venezuela now has de-facto two parliaments: A duly elected parliament and a constitutional assembly which is supposed to rewrite the constitution but which somehow passes laws instead.



In fact, two weeks later, Venezuelan voters (overwhelmingly government supporters, since the opposition boycotted and did not field candidates) were violently attacked by opposition militants when they elected a constituent assembly.

What about when Chavistas beat up parliamentarians inside the parliament and the guards just stood by and watched?


I must remind Americans of an important fact. Venezuela is sitting on one of the largest oceans of oil in the world.

Yeah, crude oil of the worst possible quality. It's heavy oil and it's polluted with minerals and groundwater. Refining that kind of crude oil is a real pain in the ass, which is why some refineries nowadays outright refuse to buy it.



Shouldn't one question what was the genesis o Hugo Chavez? The theft of the countries natural resources for the benefit of a few did. And with all of his faults, he took care of the poor. But when a Plutocracy controls much of production and works in concert, they can cripple a country. And then it is easy to fool many that it is the government and not the thieves with a record of stealing that are to be blamed.

Dude. The plutocracy is no longer in control. Whatever happened to Venezuela's economy is the result of Chavez' policies.

And what exactly is the plutocracy supposedly stealing nowadays? Are they mishandling government-money?
Are they stealing millions from the PdVSA?
Are they secretly ferrying venezuelan gold out of the country via plane?
Are they setting up mansions in foreign countries as a refuge just in case Venezuela should collapse?
Or are Maduro and his cronies doing all of that?

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
2. I'd say there's no reason at all to paint Chavez as a hero, but there's no way western meddling
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 04:37 PM
Apr 2018

/attempts at meddling, hasn't had an impact on the shape Venezuela took. I think a fair assessment(without myself being a history buff of this area, but I'm confident that I could back this up), would be that Chavez was a successful symbol of defiance against American economic colonization. Whether his regime could have (or indeed would have-Chavez certainly seemed to have elevated himself to some level of deity in his own head) been more democratic in a vacuum of these kinds of outside forces is a worthwhile question to ask.

EX500rider

(10,885 posts)
3. Yes Maduro is doing a great job..if starvation is the target
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 05:15 PM
Apr 2018

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelans reported losing on average 11 kilograms (24 lbs) in body weight last year and almost 90 percent now live in poverty, according to a new university study on the impact of a devastating economic crisis and food shortages.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-food/venezuelans-report-big-weight-losses-in-2017-as-hunger-hits-idUSKCN1G52HA

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