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I've been contemplating the connection between our white supremacist society (always has been, nothing new) and the obsessive focus on abortion by right-wingers since the 60's. This piece speaks to this unholy alliance, and also goes into the obvious influence of sexism, American style, versus views on abortion in Europe over the centuries.
https://www.bustle.com/p/why-is-america-so-obsessed-with-abortion-66871/amp
And according to many historians, racist concerns about white supremacy fed much of the US's early anti-abortion culture. It might surprise you to know that, in the early part of America's history, abortion for white women was largely seen as a private matter between a woman and her church, rather than something the law must deal with. A history of American abortion laws points out that the colonies initially adopted the abortion rules from their home country for example, in Portuguese colonies, abortion was illegal, while in English colonies abortions were legal for white women if performed prior to "quickening" (the point where the woman can feel the fetus begin to move). Professor Leslie Reagan, in her history of American abortion, has pointed out that the first laws against abortion were actually attempts to control poisoning, because herbal abortifacients which were commonly available and widely advertised in the 1800s were totally unregulated and often dangerous to the women who took them.
In the 19th century, many white American antiabortion activists thought the problem with abortion was less about violating laws or committing a Christian "sin," and more about trying to maintain high birth rates for white Americans. Historians Nicola Beisel and Tamara Kay have argued that the real hysteria over abortion in American history was about "Anglo-Saxon control of the state and dominance of society." They write:
"The arguments that physicians made to convince the public and politicians that abortion endangered society [in the nineteenth century] suggest that abortion politics in the mid-nineteenth century were part of an Anglo-Saxon racial project... While laws regulating abortion would ultimately affect all women, physicians argued that middle-class, Anglo-Saxon married women were those obtaining abortions, and that their use of abortion to curtail childbearing threatened the Anglo-Saxon race."
In other words, white women were viewed as the ones most likely to be having abortions and to racist anti-abortion activists, that made white dominance of American society vulnerable. The white fear of "becoming a race minority" in comparison to the children of slaves and immigrants of non-white background was massive in white American culture in the 19th century, and fears about abortion fed straight into it. It was part of a landscape of anti-miscegenation laws and other legal restrictions designed to make sure that white Americans retained privilege and non-white people had less political and social power. Racist fixations on white birth rates appeared in Europe as well, but in America, it was particularly vicious: it's why Theodore Roosevelt famously declared that women of "good stock" who didn't have kids were "race criminals." Horatio R. Storer asked in 1868 whether the West would be filled with "aliens," and declared, "This is a question our women must answer; upon their loins depends the future destiny of the nation."
no_hypocrisy
(46,267 posts)It's birth control and reproductive freedom which translates into female empowerment and equality in society. Without it, women are more or less forced to stay at home due to the male dominance which removed abortion and birth control in the first place. Remember that many Christian sects don't allow women to speak in their churches and they certainly don't approve of them (or other women) speaking outside of church, esp. the ones smarter than them. The sad part is these churches have convinced these women to attack the rights of other women -- in God's name of course.
If abortion were ever federally criminalized, back-room abortions would return and birth control would be the next Big Thing.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)are inextricably intertwined and play out in the abortion "debate."
tavernier
(12,410 posts)because the wrong people were having babies.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Thanks for sharing your experience.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)tavernier
(12,410 posts)He was a very nice man and a good doctor, and Im sure never considered himself a racist. I imagine that was true on a pretty broad scale.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,452 posts)malaise
(269,254 posts)Needs to be seen
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democratisphere
(17,235 posts)or view than their own and will go to extremes to force others to comply with their position on things like abortion.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)Would they still be able to pass laws regulating our bodies, since men's bodies are not regulated by legislation?
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)wolfie001
(2,293 posts)are just a bunch of fucking socicopaths. But that's just one man's opinion. Cheers
askyagerz
(776 posts)Cause I'm just way better then you...
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Abortion permits women to have sex and get away with it. America more than most countries has viewed sex for fun as immoral. The burden of a child is seen as a way to punish those immoral women.
I think that is a primary reason that so many Americans oppose abortion.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,085 posts)First and foremost, anti-choicers are about punishing women for having nonprocreational sex.
keithbvadu2
(37,008 posts)Pro-life is a myth.
The supposed pro-lifers cared not when the state of Texas (republican gov) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.
It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.
It is a matter of control.
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)They believe it sets them above the rest of us. They think the death penalty is their holy right.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Texin
(2,600 posts)And my belief is that this isn't about religion at all. As other have stated, it's about tamping out womens' rights period. Males have always tried to treat women as chattel. (I'm not saying all males, but a significant proportion of them). The collapse of the manufacturing sector in the U.S. in the '90s, which left large swaths of the U.S. without the relatively high-paying jobs uneducated men depended on exacerbated the anti-feminism movement together with more and more fervent attacks on abortion. This is about more than just control of women, it's about eliminating workforce competition. All one has to do to see proof of that is the so-called "pro life" people being rabidly against taking care of the working poor and their small children after they're born by eliminating all social safety and welfare programs.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)It's just means to push a right wing extremist agenda.
I remember when the astroturf "Tea Party" movement started, the Koch Brothers marketed it as a rebellion against out of control government spending which was driving us into unsustainable debt.
At the time a somewhat unhinged friend of mine was talking to me about it and asked me if I wanted to attend a rally with him, I agreed to check it out, and what we both saw was an obviously well organized scam that consisted mostly of extremists trying conflate, abortion, birther nonsense, wasteful government spending , patriotism, and fake sense of religious morality into the same category, and for the most part the media has continued to allow this scam to continue.
Anytime Republicans get caught lying, stealing money, getting kickbacks, cheating on their taxes, cheating on their spouses, raping children, or any other criminal activity, they start with fake "abortion, wasteful government spending , patriotism, and fake sense of religious morality" narrative ... and for the most part the media still allows them to get away with it.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)ancianita
(36,203 posts)Ilsa
(61,710 posts)She believes there is white genocide in progress.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)like Palin and Betsy Devos and her brother, Erik Prince. Makes me curious how the Rapture and white genocide are connected in their warped minds.
But, not only are they in power now, there are many, many more who subscribe to that belief system than many of us thought.
but also
Ilsa
(61,710 posts)Is not a christian dominionist, but the label is irrelevant. The emotions and unsupported belief system is there, ready to be manipulated.