Can we even imagine...?

[kentuck]

...the gargantuan task of Robert Mueller and his team?

It would be my guess that they already have the evidence but have decided against pressing any charges or making any further indictments at this time?

America cannot handle the divisive rhetoric, if charges go all the way to the White House? Trump would not hesitate to twitter our country into partisan warfare.

In my opinion, Mueller and his team probably get up every morning wondering if today is the day they have to pull the pin on the hand grenade?

To prevent further division, they would prefer the matter be settled by political process, but if there are laws that have been broken, the laws must be upheld.

They would prefer to wait after the election in November and let the people decide at the polls, in my opinion.

[Cary]

1. We don't know

We aren't supposed to know. That's where Comey screwed up. We are supposed to know if and only if there is an indictment and that makes total sense if you think about it.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. As is so often true with you Tuck, I absolutely

Agree. As I almost always do with your erudite observations.
Are we brothers from another mother?

Mueller will not want to be excused of tampering with the midterms like Comey was in October of 2016 with the Email reopening nonsense.

I think he and Rosenstein both want to hold off with any major announcements or indictments until after November.
But, can they?
Will circumstances out of their control make that not possible?

I still think there is a possibility that Trump resigns before November.
That is, if he finds out that Mueller has some extremely embarrassing or criminal things on him.
Repubs would much rather he resign than them being forced to impeach him.
Their second choice would be for the Dems to win back the House and impeach him but the Senate not remove him from office. The Repub base would explode if Repubs remove him.
Dems will have to do that heavy lifting in a new House and then strike a deal for a pardon from Pence for Trump and his family if Trump will resign.

[kentuck]

4. I think the Democrats should put the onus on Republicans to remove him...

...rather than wait for Democrats to impeach him.

How can they sit thru this mess and do nothing? Their incompetence is beyond description.

Russia attacks our democracy. They do nothing. President and his teams, campaign and transition, collude with the Russians for reasons not yet known, but probably having to do with money?

It's not only that he is a threat to our national security, he is also very, very divisive.

Republicans should find out the truth about this investigation and then decide on the facts whether or not they are "Trump Republicans" or "Reagan Republicans"?

After the election, perhaps the few, that have not yet joined the cult, will march over to the White House and give their President a choice? Either resign or face possible impeachment by the Democrats?

I think the Democrats should give Republicans more responsibility in managing their wild child and keeping our country secure. I think the Republicans are failing on all counts.

[late]

3. About halfway through

Former Att Gen Holder recently commented, I think it was on Chris Hayes, that he thought Muller was at about the halfway point.

It's still on his website, if you want to see it, but it's near the bottom. It might be this one, but it could also be the video just before this.

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/eric-holder-our-democracy-is-under-attack-1213301827627

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

5. I have faith

in the system, and that bc it's a historical case, it's taking longer bc of the precedent, but, I don't care if the country is riven. Everyone says the country is "divided" assuming it's half and half gop and dems. It's not at all. There's far more of us than them. If you buy into the loud Alex Jones rhetoric, you'd believe there's a gun toting repub on all sides of you waiting to start (and win) some type of revolution or civil war. There's certainly more guns, but, EVERYONE has them.
I'm from a Dem family and we have hunted everything our entire lives. We just don't worship guns. When the season comes, you get them out and clean them, use them, and put them in their cases for another year. They are hardcore about 25%. Of that 25%, there's the 1% who would hole up in their estates akin to "Gone W the WInd". When it comes down to it...folks aren't going to get Hatfield and Mccoy w their neighborhood.
Laws are laws. If we don't enforce them, then THAT's the real breakdown in our society. Wait until the NEXT time. We didn't think dt could happen...what's next?
The Dems need to focus the shrill voices on precise voting systems...and doing THEIR jobs. Make laws that ban thuggery at the polling places (you know it's coming), and have audits on the electronic machines we already have etc. When we get counted, WE WIN.
Amended after my shower...Why is it that the leadership(?) insists we have to act more Repub to win come this time every election cycle? Do you ever hear repubs say they have to be more liberal? We need to behave like Dems and stick to our beliefs. Stay left, bc that's what we are. LEFT. Why does the 25% dictate what we all belive ? (Other than bc they own the media?)

[kentuck]

6. I would agree that we need to enforce our laws...

But we should understand that "division" does not necessarily mean 50/50.

It could be 70/30.

Either way, it could be very destructive, in my opinion.

[Hoyt]

7. I want to believe, just like I did with Fitzgerald. But, I see no real reason to believe Mueller

or other investigators wake up in the morning bent on bringing trump down. They might, but I'm not convinced that is their mission. I do think he'll get Flynn, Manafort, maybe even a trump kid or two. But not sure about trump.

Further, if they were resolved to mete out "justice," why would they wait until after another election to release conclusions/findings if they reach them?

99% of what we supposedly "know" about Mueller's investigation is coming from people -- supposedly in the know -- who are speculating.

[kentuck]

9. I think they are in control mode.

We like to think that if there is evidence of breaking the laws, they would indict and prosecute without thought of political consequences, but I am not sure that is the case?

[Hoyt]

10. Seems to me the political consequences of hiding the truth and perhaps giving GOPers an edge in 2018

is unfair too.

We got trump in 2016 to our detriment. It's time to tell the truth and let the 2018 election correct the 2016 results if the "truth" is bad for trump and GOPers. If it is not bad for them, I guess fairness dictates we know that too. I doubt the latter, but if Mueller doesn't have enough evidence to at least issue an interim report at this time, he'll never have enough evidence to have consequences for trump. The longer this goes, the less voters are going to care what comes out of the investigation.

[kentuck]

11. I think you may be right.

This is the dilemma they face. Fairness may dictate that we know the truth before the next election. The law dictates that if crimes have been committed, then the guilty must pay a price.

The country is being played like a game of Russian Roulette by Trump and the Republicans. It is a disgrace the way they have permitted our country to be threatened and have done nothing to counter it. They are not deserving to be in power at all, let alone in the majority.

[Hoyt]

12. Wish we could do like bank robber or traitor, lock them up until the investigation is completed.

[democratisphere]

8. drumpf et al not only needs to be removed from the WH and our government,

they also need to be completely removed from our society.