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Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:24 PM Apr 2018

Neo-Nazis Burned a Swastika After Their Rally in Georgia

Neo-Nazis held a swastika burning following a white supremacist rally in the city of Newnan, Georgia, on Saturday.

Photographer Spencer Platt captured the scene for Getty Images. His pictures show a massing burning swastika and an othala rune – a pagan symbol that was used by some elements of the Third Reich.

One image shows dozens of people giving Nazi salutes in front of a burning swastika that appears to be 12 to 18 feet tall.

According to Platt and local news reports, the white supremacist group gathered in Draketown, Georgia, about 50 miles from Newnan after the protest.

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Members of the National Socialist Movement, one of the largest neo-Nazi groups in the US, hold a swastika burning after a rally on April 21, 2018 in Draketown, Georgia. Community members had opposed the rally in Newnan and came out to embrace racial unity in the small Georgia town. Fearing a repeat of the violence that broke out after Charlottesville, hundreds of police officers were stationed in the town during the rally in an attempt to keep the anti racist protesters and neo-Nazi groups separated Spencer Platt - Getty Images

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Neo-Nazis Burned a Swastika After Their Rally in Georgia (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Apr 2018 OP
We have fucking Nazis marching in our fucking streets. God damn it. Initech Apr 2018 #1
Welcome To Trumpistan. TheMastersNemesis Apr 2018 #2
Freedom of speech. We've always had that. Hortensis Apr 2018 #7
And That Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things... MineralMan Apr 2018 #3
Yes it is. Behind the Aegis Apr 2018 #16
Want to know about the new White Power symbols? poboy2 Apr 2018 #4
Thanks for the link. It's a good article, but I'm having a heckuva time reading it through... Hekate Apr 2018 #10
I knew a couple of Asatru 20 years ago, and they were pretty insistant that they were not Odinists Hekate Apr 2018 #12
Those are some sick, inbred white wingers right there. Draketown is a good place for them. Hoyt Apr 2018 #5
Not true UncleTomsEvilBrother Apr 2018 #8
Sorry, but I've lived in Georgia just about all my life. Haralson County went 87% for trump or Hoyt Apr 2018 #11
No need to be sorry... UncleTomsEvilBrother Apr 2018 #15
politics according to donald trump....he has given these assholes wings spanone Apr 2018 #6
in 1988, the 4 cases of flag-burning in the country became a major election issue. unblock Apr 2018 #9
There is something about burning swastikas, though ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #13
clearly the political messages are not the same. unblock Apr 2018 #14
A very miniscule, very marginalized segment of our society average_mo_dem Apr 2018 #17
Except the guy in the White House is now their primary Apologist-in-Chief. bullwinkle428 Apr 2018 #19
They are ANYTHING but minuscule and marginalized, as we now know . Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #22
I guess the rain didn't get there fast enough. Ilsa Apr 2018 #18
I'd Be Happy To Burn One For Them ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #20
They look really stupid. The shirtless one is probably the type of guy who gets drunk at Oneironaut Apr 2018 #21

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Freedom of speech. We've always had that.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:57 PM
Apr 2018
What this does NOT show is crowds of admirers -- because this display of a couple dozen people was for a sympathetic audience of similar size, no doubt mostly family and friends who accompanied the brave warriors.

NYT: But the event still upended Newnan, Ga., a city of about 38,000, for an afternoon as downtown shops closed and counterprotesters gathered. Hasco Craver, the assistant city manager, said more than 700 law enforcement officers were present from 42 agencies.


Them, plus 700 law enforcement officers, 100 counterprotestors, and some reporters. Must have been a ridiculous scene.

The people of Noonan's contemptuous rejection of these creeps is actually a southern tradition. Although trumpism is encouraging haters to act out, they're still rejected by a very large majority.

Twenty years ago now, when we first moved to GA, a little KKK group would put on an annual parade in our small city, that free speech thing. A nice Southern woman in the gardening group I'd just joined felt I needed to know and explained that no one goes downtown that day. And they really didn't, even though ours is one of the most conservative political districts in the entire nation. It's been a lot of years now since that group bothered with their pathetic little straggle down an empty street of closed businesses.

And people in other parts of the nation really need to know this and not give these little creeps the reactions they crave.
 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
4. Want to know about the new White Power symbols?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018
Want to know about the new White Power symbols?

AndyT
Community
Monday April 23, 2018 · 1:22 PM CDT


So, over the weekend Georgia’s friendly neighborhood genocidal racist hatemongers had a little cookout with a blazing swastika. And right next was a blazing… thing. But it turns out that thing was not just at the fire. It was everywhere at the Newnan and Draketown Nazi rallies. And before that it was at … the Charlottesville Unite The Right Rally. Along with a few other important symbols.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/23/1759298/-Want-to-know-about-the-new-White-Power-symbols

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
10. Thanks for the link. It's a good article, but I'm having a heckuva time reading it through...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:29 PM
Apr 2018

I've gotten as far as the Valknut, but the page keeps de-loading and flipping back to the headline. I'll come back to it when I have more time.

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
12. I knew a couple of Asatru 20 years ago, and they were pretty insistant that they were not Odinists
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:20 PM
Apr 2018

That is, they did not wish to be associated at all with neo-Nazi racists. One of them (a big silver-bearded retired sheriff) really schooled me on the difference. He was quoted at some length in one of the anthologies I have on Neo-Paganism -- I've been scrambling around trying to find the exact book, but some of my stuff is still in boxes from moving last summer.

Anyhow thanks for the link. I like to get updated.

8. Not true
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:08 PM
Apr 2018

I am from Georgia, and have visited that area millions of times. Those are the same white people who work at Wal-Mart, own the banks, and work at the post offices in the town. The are basic, everyday white people. Trying to give them their own demographic ignores the evil that is in all of us.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Sorry, but I've lived in Georgia just about all my life. Haralson County went 87% for trump or
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:41 PM
Apr 2018

3rd Party racists. Know a lot of white wingers from down that way.

Believe it or not, white wing racists work in WalMart, banks, etc., in predominantly white wing rural towns. 87% is a high rate of white wing ignorance.

15. No need to be sorry...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:59 PM
Apr 2018

...as you and I probably agree more than we disagree. I was born and raised in Georgia, but I happen to have family in the other 13%. What I am saying is that the mentality of the Nazi racist is not as much of an outlier as you may claim. I am speaking as someone who has experienced it firsthand.

The Nazi mentality is certainly more prevalent than the ones who showed up at the swastika burning the other night. Black people have to deal with that kind of racism all the time.

unblock

(52,121 posts)
9. in 1988, the 4 cases of flag-burning in the country became a major election issue.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

but now, burning swatikas... meh.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
13. There is something about burning swastikas, though
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:28 PM
Apr 2018

You made the comparison with the flag. So is burning a swastika a desecration of the symbol? Is burning a cross blasphemous? I really wonder about these things. I know these idiots are trying to be "scary" with their burning things, but it seems to me they are sending the exact opposite message about their "sacred" symbols.

unblock

(52,121 posts)
14. clearly the political messages are not the same.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:33 PM
Apr 2018

yes, burning a flag is intended to be a protest of one sort of another.

foreign enemies might do it as an act of protest against the entire country, while domestic protesters might do it to protest some specific government actions or policies.

but burning a cross or a swastika is pretty much always intended as a threat against certain people.


in any event, i somehow doubt that the burning of swastikas will become a major political issue the way the idiotic flag-burning debate dominated 1988.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
22. They are ANYTHING but minuscule and marginalized, as we now know .
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:03 PM
Apr 2018

There are millions of Americans who if forced to choose between these guys and a very liberal, very inclusive, very sciency America, will choose the group pictured.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
20. I'd Be Happy To Burn One For Them
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:42 AM
Apr 2018

In any single one of their living rooms. They can help me get it lit. It will be great.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
21. They look really stupid. The shirtless one is probably the type of guy who gets drunk at
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:46 AM
Apr 2018

college football games and tries to fight all the students there.

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