"a buck-naked feller with an assault rifle does not qualify as a "well-regulated militia."

[riversedge]

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Tea Pain's gonna go out on an limb and say that a buck-naked feller with an assault rifle does not qualify as a "well-regulated militia."

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[Canoe52]

1. So...going out on a limb here...

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are we going to begin a long protracted discussion on what a well regulated militia is along with a never ending discussion on what an assult rifle is?



LMAO, Well that answered my question!

[hack89]

3. DU is Groundhog Day when it comes to gun discussions

I can cut and paste from 12 year old posts and they are relevant.

[Crunchy Frog]

17. It's Groundhog Day when it comes to mass shootings.

[hack89]

18. True

To bad we spend all our time here talking past each other instead of listening, discussing and perhaps even compromising when necessary. We start with "fuck gun humpers" and then watch the kabuki play out. Good thing the country doesn't depend on DU to solve real problems.

[Igel]

5. Or a discussion about dependent clauses

and whether or not they define the main clause. And from there whether the Constitution grants conditional rights or if the Constitution says that there simply are rights, and a just government is one instituted to secure those pre-existing rights.

[Progressive2020]

10. Natural Rights

I am in the camp that believe certain Rights are Natural and that the Constitution and the Government exist to protect Natural Rights that already exist. The Constitution does not create Rights, but is designed to protect certain Rights that are explicated in the Text.

For example, I believe that everyone has a Natural Right to Self Defense, and this is expressed in the Constitution as the Right to Bear Arms. The question is what is reasonable for Self Defense and what is not. I don't believe that AR-15s and a massive Gun Culture are justified by people's Natural Right to Self Defense.

Similarly, the Right to Free Speech is a Natural Right that is protected by the Constitution. A reasonable limit on this is that there is no Right to cry "fire" in a crowded theatre. Likewise, we need a Free Press, but this does not mean the Press is allowed to defame or libel people.

So, Rights are Natural, the Law exists to protect those Natural Rights, and there are reasonable limits on all Rights. Just my two cents from Poli Sci 101 and Political Theory.

[X_Digger]

15. You can legally falsely yell fire in a crowded theater. Do yourself a favor and drop that example..

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/

But those who quote Holmes might want to actually read the case where the phrase originated before using it as their main defense. If they did, they'd realize it was never binding law, and the underlying case, U.S. v. Schenck, is not only one of the most odious free speech decisions in the Court's history, but was overturned over 40 years ago.

[Progressive2020]

16. Fair Enough

I am not a lawyer and was unfamiliar with the case, but thank you from bringing it to my attention. My overall point was that there are reasonable limits on any Natural Right, including Freedom of Speech. So I stand by the original point. The "fire in a crowded theatre" example is a common one that is used rhetorically, but I was unaware of the original case and the background. Thanks for the link and pointing that out.

[IronLionZion]

14. It's our national guard and military reserves

to defend our country from foreign invaders. Not some dipshit sovereign citizen who doesn't recognize our government or laws and therefore is not a law abiding gun owner.

[DesertRat]

2. Well said!

[ProudLib72]

4. Maybe it refers to the fact they ate a lot of prunes?

[Generic Brad]

6. At the very least, we should have a well-dressed militia

Would it hurt the next shooter to wear some pants?

[kwassa]

7. What? You never heard of the Pennsylvania Buck-naked Militia?

With only their privates covered by the 2nd Amendment?

[Xipe Totec]

8. A member of the ex-lax irregulars nt

[DemoTex]

9. "This is my rifle, this is my gun"

"This is for fighting, this is for fun"

RIP R. Lee Emrey (Gunnery Sergeant Hartman in "Full Metal Jacket" .. 1987)

[keithbvadu2]

11. The ongoing debate

[cwydro]

12. No, hes a nutcase

[BobTheSubgenius]

13. I bet he does.

At least, in some quarters.