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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Further proof it doesn't take a gun to stop a murderer. James Shaw did it, a feeble elderly lady
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018

stopped Loughner after shooting Gabby Giffords, while armed people in the audience were diving for cover or messing their pants.

And unarmed Congresspeople could stop a bunch of killings in the future if they had the guts to do it and didn't take white wing gunner money at the expense of society.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. Loughner was unarmed when he was subdued by numerous people
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:57 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:50 PM - Edit history (1)

he dropped the magazine while trying to reload. A woman grabbed the magazine while someone belted him on the head with a folding chair. Then 74 year old Bill Badger (a retired Army Col) tackled him.

The only known armed person was not at the meeting but showed up immediately afterward to help subdue Loughner.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. What f'in difference does it make if this lady, Badger or any other UNARMED person were heroes.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:09 PM
Apr 2018

But you are always there to protect your precious guns.


This lady is credited helping stopping Loughner, just another white wing gun-wielding killer --



"Maisch, 61, effectively disarmed the shooter as several men pounced on him and threw him to ground. As they struggled to hold him down, Maisch joined the scrum on the ground, clinging to the gunman's ankles."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/patricia-maisch-describes-stopping-gunman-reloading/story?id=12577933



Fact is Guns, "Good guys with guns will save us," and all that BS is as much responsible for these tragedies as anything else. All we get from the gun culture is BS.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. Accuracy matters to some of us
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:52 PM
Apr 2018

just wanted to make sure people understand exactly what happened. That's all.

I don't believe that good guys with guns with save us. Guns are for personal defense and only if necessary.

marble falls

(57,523 posts)
5. I'm very embarrassed. I've mistakenly been arming bears. I guess hunting may be a more competitive..
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:54 PM
Apr 2018

of a sport this year.

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