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I can't stand Bill Kristol but... (Original Post) SHRED Apr 2018 OP
AS Lee Corso would say...not so fast my friend! Va Lefty Apr 2018 #1
Sad to see Lee going downhill. I lived in Bloomington when he rode an elephant in a parade. dameatball Apr 2018 #42
Yeah, Bill is the democratic partys best friend. Canoe52 Apr 2018 #2
Where does he have to go? Cary Apr 2018 #13
That is funny. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #3
But nothing melman Apr 2018 #4
Weirdness in the Era of Trump PJMcK Apr 2018 #5
Even a stopped clock is UpInArms Apr 2018 #6
Unless its digital... Chicago1980 Apr 2018 #17
So we have a few republican pundits Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #7
In fairness, I didn't see this coming until many days after the escalator nonsense. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #8
Same here, Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #9
I told people he was no joke Cosmocat Apr 2018 #16
Same here EffieBlack Apr 2018 #37
Here's my problem with these GOOPER pundits. Zoonart Apr 2018 #11
This has been coming since at least Nixon... czarjak Apr 2018 #19
In my opinion Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #21
They aren't reinventing themselves . they opposed Trump from the Start JI7 Apr 2018 #22
When they jump from Fox to MSNBC Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #23
no they aren't. msnbc isn't a liberal channel JI7 Apr 2018 #25
It's also not a republican Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #26
they did give Trump a lot of free airtime during the campaign to spread lies JI7 Apr 2018 #27
Yes they did. Some of the hosts more than others. Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #28
Kristol is not spreading right wing hate JI7 Apr 2018 #31
All his years at Fox, Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #32
the problem is trump right now JI7 Apr 2018 #33
Actually I specifically said it was wrong in post 28. Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #34
No, not free air-time at all, but rather, profitable air-time LanternWaste Apr 2018 #41
+1 OnDoutside Apr 2018 #39
Despised in past but gotta say rather have him on our side. We need all the voices we can get Pepsidog Apr 2018 #10
I'd rather have him Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #35
Nope shadowmayor Apr 2018 #12
+1 here. Mr.Bill Apr 2018 #36
I don't know Cary Apr 2018 #14
I like everything Kristol has been saying bout RUMP, I can stand it just fine. Looks like he Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #15
i can't see how it would not be fine JI7 Apr 2018 #24
He's the "intellectual" conservative mvd Apr 2018 #18
Yeah, it's uncomfortable worstexever Apr 2018 #20
This is how badly I feel for you, Donald J. Trump catbyte Apr 2018 #29
Dumbshit stepped into that one. Cha Apr 2018 #30
Good tweet Gothmog Apr 2018 #38
bill, do not DARE to equate that orange blob of suet with witches. what a damned insult!! niyad Apr 2018 #40

Canoe52

(2,949 posts)
2. Yeah, Bill is the democratic partys best friend.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 08:31 PM
Apr 2018

Really, I need the sarcasm thingy? All right here it ‘tis...

PJMcK

(22,069 posts)
5. Weirdness in the Era of Trump
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 08:51 PM
Apr 2018

When I find myself in agreement with Bill Kristol, we're in SpongeBob's "Opposite Day."

Strange.

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
7. So we have a few republican pundits
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 09:22 PM
Apr 2018

trying to reinvent themselves now that that realize trump is a disaster. I'll listen to political advice from a third grader before I'll listen to someone who didn't see this coming the day Trump came down the escalator.

I knew this clown (Trump) was an crook the first time I heard him speak in the early 70s.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,580 posts)
8. In fairness, I didn't see this coming until many days after the escalator nonsense.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 09:31 PM
Apr 2018

I had ZERO expectation that he would make it past the first few states in the primaries. I had less than zero expectation that he would beat HRC in the general.

Cosmocat

(14,588 posts)
16. I told people he was no joke
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 10:22 PM
Apr 2018

I didn't think he would definitely win the nomination, but I told people he was mo joke, and absolutely was a real threat to win the nomination, because he was what the Republican Party had become.
I didn't think he would beat Hillary, but again I told people if it came down to him and her the country was stupid enough to make him POTUS.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
37. Same here
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 12:34 AM
Apr 2018

And people just kept laughing ...

One of the things I kept telling people is that I thought Hillary had no idea how to run against him - and that was in no way a criticism of or a knock against her. In fact, NO ONE would have known how to run against him since every other candidate was a normal human being who would have trouble running against a man with no morals, no boundaries and no logic. Politics and campaigns are all about rules, so how do you get traction against someone who completely ignores - and actually blows right past - all rules? It's nearly impossible.

And, despite this, Hillary figured out how to beat him, did an amazing job and got 3 million more votes than he did. The problem was that she also had to beat Russia, Comey and a bunch of voter suppressors.

Zoonart

(11,907 posts)
11. Here's my problem with these GOOPER pundits.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 09:52 PM
Apr 2018

They were the same grave robbers that happily supplied the body parts to the Lab, and now they don't like how the monster turned out.

If tRump goes and we end up with Pence, or any other GOP gouhl, they will get right back onboard the good ship granny starver. They are NOT our friends.

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
21. In my opinion
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:24 PM
Apr 2018

this is all happening because Nixon didn't die in prison. I'm tired of people in positions of authority from politicians to cops committing crimes and merely losing their jobs. And their colleagues who saw the crime being committed and didn't say anything having nothing happen to them. This is especially true with law enforcement.

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
23. When they jump from Fox to MSNBC
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:28 PM
Apr 2018

they are trying to reinvent themselves. They worked for a network that spread republican propaganda and they knew it. I will never have any use for them.

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
28. Yes they did. Some of the hosts more than others.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:39 PM
Apr 2018

And that was wrong. But if you think they spread republican hate and lied and agreed to it like they did over at Fox, there's no point in having any further conversation with you. We'll have to agree to disagree.

JI7

(89,288 posts)
33. the problem is trump right now
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:51 PM
Apr 2018

you excused msnbc for giving free airtime to trump during the campaign .

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
34. Actually I specifically said it was wrong in post 28.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:57 PM
Apr 2018

One more time, let's agree to disagree and part friends. This conversation is over for me.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. No, not free air-time at all, but rather, profitable air-time
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:49 PM
Apr 2018

You call it Free Airtime. I call it a direct result of ratings-based news content... a standard business model which has merely exploited fractured demographics.

No, not free air-time at all, but rather, profitable air-time resulting in happy share-holders. Don't ignore the forest by focusing on one tree only. It's a big forest.

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
35. I'd rather have him
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 12:00 AM
Apr 2018

be a shift manager at Burger King where he can't poison the minds of millions of ignorant voters.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
12. Nope
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 09:54 PM
Apr 2018

I won't give any neo-con PNAC asshole any quarter. Just because he's anti-Trump does not make him my friend. MSNBC should be ashamed to even let this heartless prick on their set. May his toes find sharp corners in the dark the rest of his miserable limping life!

Cary

(11,746 posts)
14. I don't know
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 10:06 PM
Apr 2018

I do want to like Kristol, Frum, Schmidt, Jennifer Rubin, Wilson, ....

They seem to have grown a little. I feel I can grow too but I'm not there yet.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
15. I like everything Kristol has been saying bout RUMP, I can stand it just fine. Looks like he
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 10:13 PM
Apr 2018

wants to be part of the coalition of the decent....fine by me.

JI7

(89,288 posts)
24. i can't see how it would not be fine
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:28 PM
Apr 2018

unless he runs for political office himself and is asking for others to vote for him .

but why someone would have a problem with just speaking out against the person they claim to oppose also is weird.

politics isn't a religion but too many times people treat it like it is.

mvd

(65,186 posts)
18. He's the "intellectual" conservative
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 10:56 PM
Apr 2018

They use faulty reasoning but at least try to reason. That type of conservative usually dislikes the Trump type. While I will take his anti-Trump stuff, he's definitely not a friend to us.

worstexever

(265 posts)
20. Yeah, it's uncomfortable
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 11:09 PM
Apr 2018

Bill's a #nevertrump-er and I find myself agreeing with him more often than not these days. Bassackwards!

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