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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you believe that Donald Trump conspired with House Republicans to tear down Comey...?
...with the release of the Comey memos?
From the way Trump has been tweeting for the last couple of days, we might deduce that it was his idea?
However, there seems to be a small clog in their conspiracy plan. In leaking the memos, the people were able to see with their own eyes and draw a comparison between the two men, Trump and Comey.
Trump does not come out looking good. Comey comes out looking like the more honest and more truthful person. Trump looks dishonest and conniving. Trump is clearly the loser when the two men are compared in the memos.
It was a political mistake by Trump and his Republican conspirators. Although they are working doubly-hard to try and fix their "mistake", the damage has been done. Their plan to destroy the most credible witness for the prosecution has failed.
dem4decades
(11,321 posts)It didn't help Trump that John Barrows appeared in the same news cycle either.
Demsrule86
(68,800 posts)It backfired though as there was worse stuff that Comey left out of the book, and it showed Comey was telling the truth.
gordianot
(15,254 posts)When Republicans are not lieing they are attacking.
ProfessorGAC
(65,401 posts)The most obvious evidence is that it backfired, and that level of incompetence has House R's written all over it.
doc03
(35,446 posts)kentuck
(111,111 posts)Contrary to what Trump said and what FOX reported?
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/why-were-republicans-so-desperate-to-release-the-embarrassing-comey-memos-heres-one-explanation.html
This all ultimately seems to explain why House Republicans were so eager to get these memos into the public. It seems as though they thought the memos would prove Comey had illegally leaked classified information and lied about it. It seems as though they were basing this entirely on a bit of contradictoryand likely inaccurateFox News reporting. And it seems that this contradictory, likely inaccurate reporting was done by Fox News to help validate this Donald Trump tweet, which was sent two days after Comeys Senate testimony:
Finally, it seems that the memos released prove the exact opposite: The apparently leaked documents were never and still arent classified.
Ultimately, this is likely why on Thursday night we learned that Putin was allegedly discussing Russian hookers with Trump, that the president appears to have been obsessed with the pee tape to a previously undisclosed degree, and apparently had his chief of staff ask the FBI director if Mike Flynn was being bugged.
In the likely event that there are more rakes out there in this investigation, House Republicans should think very carefully about where they step next.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)Your post title shows you have some confusion between "the memos" and "the documents" that were supposedly leaked.
The memos are classified, or were before the redactions and de-classification.
The other documents I have not seen.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)As FBI Director, doesn't he have the authority to classify them?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)Comey signed his memos, several of which were classified.
Somebody else redacted them, declassified them, and signed the declassification.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)To either give them a higher classification or to not classify them at all? I thought I read that??
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)But this time, for this question, it is answered by reading even the typed in copies.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #16)
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)Some memos were classified. Later those were redacted and declassified.
If you read the article you linked, you'll see that what Comey leaked was four pages, all unclassified (never classified). Fox stupidly took that to mean four memos.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)What does it mean, "de-classified"?
Who would have "de-classified" them?
Was it legal?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)Does the GOP have any other play in their playbook? How'd the legal harassment strategy against Hillary work?
True Blue American
(17,996 posts)Not one bit of concern over what happened to our election.
Simply put,a self centered,Dirty old man!
Atticus
(15,124 posts)kentuck
(111,111 posts)They even recruited that little hypocrite, Gowdy, to help them promote their conspiracy to tear down, not only James Comey, but our entire Justice Department. It is getting closer to treason every single day...
Exotica
(1,461 posts)Trump wouldn't come out favourably in a 3-way comparison between himself, a shit-filled nappie baking in the summer sun at the local dump, and a road-killed syphilitic warthog.
My eyes! My eyes!
Gore1FL
(21,167 posts)The Republican National Committee (RNC) is sending a mascot Lyin' Lion Comey to trail former FBI Director James Comey on his cross-country book tour.
The lion mascot's mission was first reported Thursday by CNN, before the GOP itself appeared to confirm the news in a tweet.
The RNC later confirmed the effort in an email to The Hill.
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Takket
(21,703 posts)The GOP feels it can best appeal to their voters.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)In my career I have often found that my opponents think only on the first layer of complexity...in one case having a lawyer draft a resolution that they thought would put my side at a disadvantage, but the text cited a law that would force them to jump thought a ton of hoops before they could succeed. They never read it. They never looked up the referenced law. I tore them a new one in the floor fight.
The house repubs seem like my opponents. They go after legal/legislative "twinkies"..that is, they jump at actions that are appealing to the eye, sweet on the surface but HAVE NO (ZERO) nutritional value.
Our opponents are often neither as smart nor as clever as we imagine them to be.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)Oh, what a tangled web we weave.
Ligyron
(7,645 posts)But alot of this is a jury trial and almost half the jury pool in this country are idiots
ewagner
(18,964 posts)...can make idiots think they're geniuses.
world wide wally
(21,760 posts)but having an entire political party that is also willing to lie for him. Especially when they have complete control because we wanted them to have it.
malaise
(269,292 posts)and will have copious hearings in the lead up to the mid-terms. All will be paid for by tax-payers as these fuckers loot the treasury one last time before they are voted out hopefully for decades.