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On Saturday night, the great Wolf Blitzer interviewed one of his panelists about James Comeys justification for violating over a half-century of Justice Department policies in Republican and Democratic administrations when he sent his October 28 letter to Congress in 2016, which cost Hillary Clinton the presidency.
Comey has repeatedly claimed that he was obligated to write his speculative letter because of a promise he had made to Congress to do so if anything new came up after his July 5, 2016, press conference announcing a new prosecutable case could be brought against Clinton.
However, I established beyond any doubt in my book published in February 2018, The Unmaking of the Presidency 2016, that Comeys claim was and remains false.
In fact, Comey only promised Congress in September 2016 that if anything new came up on the emails issue that might cause the FBI to reconsider its non-prosecution decision, he would take a look not that he would make a public disclosure to Congress before doing so.
http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/383251-admit-it-james-comey-youve-been-lying-all-along
Look, I pretty much believe Comey's depiction of Trump, only because he has contemporaneous memos and in-time communications with his colleagues. But in spite of the fact that he has the dope on the orange fool, we all know that he did a serious hit job on Hillary Clinton, which very likely cost her the Electoral College.
It's good to see that Lanny Davis isn't letting him off the hook for that mess.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)djg21
(1,803 posts)Look it up.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to keep congress under Republican control? How about 2020?
This ISN'T over. We are engaged in an enormous battle for power and the future of our nation.
WHO was Comey conspiring to subvert our presidential election with? Or did he just wake up and think, "Hmmm. I think I'll betray my country today, and maybe tomorrow, the next 9 months even, and see if I can get away with it."?
Goodheart
(5,351 posts)who relished the attention. Obama should have fired him the moment he disparaged Clinton in that first bullshit, unnecessary press conference.
He's correct about the Orange P.O.S. in the White House, of course.... but it's quite correct to think both of them should be punished for attacking our democracy.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)hlthe2b
(102,508 posts)He may be right on Comey, but I do NOT trust Davis.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)career. Both things can co-exist. Good job with that headline...did RUMP write it?
To paint James Comey as a liar is utterly absurd and anyone who goes down this garden path just know you are helping RUMP period.
forgotmylogin
(7,539 posts)The big questions in Comeys badly reviewed book arent answered like, how come he gave up Classified Information (jail), why did he lie to Congress (jail), why did the DNC refuse to give Server to the FBI (why didnt they TAKE it), why the phony memos, McCabes $700,000 & more?
Just like he did with HRClinton; "Lock Her Up" etc.
Then he pardons Libby, who was convicted of leaking the identity of an FBI agent and lying under oath.
He screams that "Attorney Client Privilege is dead..."
Meanwhile, Comey has never jumped to conclusions and has only said "Here's what happened. I took notes."
The FBI is only supposed to act when it benefits DJT, apparently.
GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)Comey was a boy scout. So was I. But that does not make us who we are now. People and circumstances change.
Skittles
(153,281 posts)he broke precedent, singled her out for no good reason (the one he is telling is an outright fucking lie)
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)precedent!!!!!! So yes he royally fucked up and what is most annoying is that he still thinks he did the right thing.
Unless there is more to this that we yet don't know this will be a stain on his otherwise stellar career.
Regardless I am holding most criticisms of this man until this is all over for what I think are obvious reasons.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)He didn't just grow legs, fur, and start nuzzling and purring in our ears.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)him. Dems here seem to want to help them along. No one here is happy the way things turned out with Hillary. If the Dotard and his minions had their way, he'd put her on trial and 'lock her up'. Stop assisting them in keeping the shit going, or the Dems will lose again because we're always fighting the last fight instead of looking forward and making sure we're prepared for the next fight. Right now, we're not; too much in house fighting over bullshit.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,134 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Sorry if I maintain my convictions.
Comey was a snake. Comey is a snake.
Comey will be a snake when our descendants read their history books 100 years from now.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)and how do you help the Democratic cause?
erronis
(15,458 posts)With "he said" "she said" assertions and lots of pundits puffing air, I don't think truth has been established. But it is within reach.
Isn't the Democratic cause to be able to show just cause? Not just toe lines?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)many have convictions based on few facts, and on little critical thinking skills. Conviction it itself means nothing.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,113 posts)If a snake bites a friend of mine I will not like the snake. Then if that same snake bites a despicable enemy of mine, I will look differently at the snake. It will not change the fact that the snake is a snake, but I will have a different viewpoint when thinking of it. In fact, I might even dislike the snake less after it bites my enemy. I will not, however, turn my back on the snake.
I believe that we can use Comey in order to help rid us of a enemy of our United States of America. If that can be done, then why not use that tool?
Skittles
(153,281 posts)I am sick of these sheep who act like we just *HAVE* to worship fuckers like Comey because he decided to do the right thing ONLY WHEN HE WAS FIRED
*FUCK HIM*
Thekaspervote
(32,820 posts)fallout87
(819 posts)And you are angry about criticism of him? This has nothing to do with the GOP, it has everything to do with the fact that Comey is not our friend. Regardless of his stance in tRump.
forgotmylogin
(7,539 posts)In my opinion, that's one of the tenets of liberalism: People can make mistakes, but people also deserve to change their mind, and deserve a chance at redemption. Conservatives like to paint things in one color because it's easier for them to wrap their head around "THIS PERSON IS GOOD, AND THIS PERSON IS BAD, AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE."
Your anger at Comey is completely valid. But Comey's recollection as it relates to the President is also valid, and I certainly want to hear it.
I believe we are allowed line-item criticism. It's okay if you don't feel that way.
GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)Comey I think is learning too in this process...
Cary
(11,746 posts)I would rather win elections than indulge arm chair quarterbacks and second guessers.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Thank you for.calling it out.
Demsrule86
(68,775 posts)with Trump and shut down the Russian investigation. Some should consider that before joining with and helping Trump to discredit Comey. Their actions could very well help Trump escape justice. Is this what these folks want? It is hard to understand their point...if they have one.
orangecrush
(19,662 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,134 posts)human race the way he did.
Fuck him all to hell
AT THE SAME TIME, we need him now to tell the truth.
enough
(13,270 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The polls and made a calculation. That was wrong. That he admits as miscalculation is all you need to know- he thought about, and chose to move the needle. So did most of the press.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)for influencing the outcome of the election with selective announcements of ongoing investigations. For that, I will never forget and never forgive.
btw: The meeting on the tarmac in Phoenix did not help Former First Lady Clinton.
BigmanPigman
(51,650 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Doodley
(9,175 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That is to boost the ornage asshole.
If thats not your purpose, secure this shit right fucking now.
rzemanfl
(29,581 posts)Squinch
(51,083 posts)a sanctimonious ass who cost Hillary the White House.
Comey IS ALSO our best witness for obstruction, and his version of events is well corroborated, therefore very likely to be true and to hold up in court or in hearings.
"The enemy of my enemy" thing is facile and dangerous. I keep pointing this out, because I am an Irish person. In WWII, some Irish people made an unforgivable mistake when they applied that philosophy. Their enemy was Britain. Some Irish acted in support of Nazis because the Nazis were the "enemy of the enemy." We don't need to make the same kind of mistake.
rzemanfl
(29,581 posts)My position on Comey is, I will support him against Drumpf, but if he should ever catch fire I would not urinate on him to put it out because of a vow I made after the 2000 election. He is a Republican.
Squinch
(51,083 posts)erronis
(15,458 posts)Let her cast the first stone.
Every situation in life that I've encountered does not yield well to absolutes. "Thou Shalt".
I don't know the inner devils of Comey or even my own. I'll read his texts as texts and draw conclusions based on the other events surrounding them.
Many top people (McNamara pre-eminent) have done pretty good mea-culpas. I don't think the rest of us ever really atone for our sins.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,386 posts)Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)seem designed to help Trump. What Comey did in the election can't be taken back, but his credibility can be challenged to help Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)This has been going on for years. Remember the African American mayor of DC busted on drug charges just before his election? Hell it happened in my own town in 2014. The day before the mayoral election the Dem went to jail thanks to an FBI sting. Thanks Jimbo.
Nothing he says, writes or burps can be trusted. He has zero integrity and what we say or don't say about Comey has no connection to anything anyway.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,440 posts)Comey wrote a classified letter to Jason Chaffetz, who illegally released it to members of the Congressional Republican caucus.
IADEMO2004
(5,575 posts)Giuliani was busting a gut not telling what FBI buddies had fed him before the Comey letter.
Mr. Ected
(9,675 posts)It is imperative that we compartmentalize our disdain for the man as a major contributor to our candidate's loss from our support of him in his capacity as a WITNESS of crimes perpetrated by Trump.
I trust his regurgitation of events vis-a-vis meetings with Trump. I trust his contemporaneous notes.
I will never forgive Comey or forget his diabolical acts immediately prior to election day. There is no connection in my mind to what happened then and what is happening now.
He is a witness. His testimony could help bring down Donald J Trump. That's the prize. I'm keeping my eye on it, in a vacuum.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Comey pulls a string and Donald starts singing his songs. Kind of think it's the intimidations of written words and vocabulary by Comey.
Trump's weakness is him not wanting articulated descriptions and opinions that have and intice forethought. Wanting to be surrounded by people that seldom offer intellectual analysis has its drawbacks.
It must drive Trump wild seeing someone writing many notes about just general conversations. Probably happened to him a lot in grade school.
Skittles
(153,281 posts)the fact that they are anti-Trump doesn't mean shit because they weren't anti-Trump WHEN IT COUNTED
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)he is just 100% disgusting right? Oh brother.
Skittles
(153,281 posts)then when he was running for "president" she decided that would be a good time to shake him down for six figures instead of going public.....gawd, STOP ACTING like that self-serving grifter is some kind of HERO - she isn't, she is as DISGUSTING AS TRUMP
and Comey, who knew Trump was being investigated by the FBI and was possibly being BLACKMAILED BY RUSSIA, decided to TRASH HILLARY......he fucking helped get Trump installed into the White House - HE CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)WHO THE FUCK is calling her a "hero"...LOL OK I can stop "talking" to you now because you really don't need me since you are filling in my parts for me. Good Evening to you now.
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Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Demsrule86
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Demsrule86
(68,775 posts)PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)He reminds me of the late Alan Colmes.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Skittles
(153,281 posts)his argument that he thought Hillary would win is utterly ridiculous - WHY WOULD THAT EVEN BE A FACTOR? He and some rabid rightwing assholes in the FBI did a hit job on Hillary and now they don't have the GUTS to admit it
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)The NY Office of the FBI were filled with right-wing anti-Hilliary zealots who were in cahoots with Rudy Gulliani. They cornered Comey by with-holding the Weiners PC until 11 days before the election. Remember Rudy bragging about an October surprise?
Everyone here were toasting Comey when he stood up to the Bush Torture crowd. He wouldnt sign the Memos authorizing torture when Ashcroft was under sedation in the hospital and Cheney tried to get the drugged AG to sign the memo.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Lanny Davis is a liar and a snake himself, so it's possible that he's right (in the sense that it takes one to know one).
SunSeeker
(51,795 posts)He is the posture child for why you should never comment on an ongoing investigation or even confirm its existence.
onetexan
(13,079 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)but rather a long history of un besmirched public service.
chillfactor
(7,587 posts)Because frankly I cannot crawl into the man's brain.....but one thing I do know.....he is pushing the asshat in the white house closer to the edge of the cliff.....and I am just fine with that!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,113 posts)"the geat Wolf Blitzer"???
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)He'll get his comeupins for what he did to HRC. Its another debt that he will pay after Trump.
VOX
(22,976 posts)If its not a snarky lead-in, then whatever follows should be taken with several grains of salt.
Because nowhere in this universe is Leslie Wolf Blitzer great.
Ported_Maryjoseph
(13 posts)Uh known Republican election actor.