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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:06 PM Apr 2018

James Comey's Ego has a lot to answer for

Not for the first time, James Comey's Ego propels itself to the center of American politics and the world stage.
The book's pages detail how the Comey Ego first became a household name during the 2016 presidential election, taking on a pivotal role even as it sowed the seeds of its own downfall.

It was not enough, you'll remember, that the FBI had pored through Hillary Clinton's emails as it investigated her use of a private email server and concluded that there were no charges to answer: James Comey's Ego wanted to be the one to announce it.
Instead of simply dropping the matter, the result was a news conference at which James Comey's Ego spent 10 minutes denouncing Mrs. Clinton's email practices before getting to the fact that no further action would be taken. The news media got their headlines, as did James Comey's Ego.

Worse followed when the FBI received a new batch of emails to probe. Just 11 days before election day, James Comey's Ego wrote to Congress announcing that the investigation was being reopened.

And now we have the book, some of it based on notes kept during its time as FBI director, detailing the president's hand size ("it was smaller than mine but did not seem unusually so" ) and tie-length ("too long" ). It picks over Trump's perhaps not unreasonable fury at unsubstantiated reports he cavorted with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel.

It all makes for unedifying stuff. Not so much the high-minded work of a whistleblower with a cause as a lurid rant of an ego untethered. Is this how former directors of the FBI are supposed to behave?

More...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/opinions/james-comeys-ego-crilly-opinion-intl/index.html



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James Comey's Ego has a lot to answer for (Original Post) lunamagica Apr 2018 OP
I don't take headlines like this seriously Sanity Claws Apr 2018 #1
Yep. Every action he takes must be viewed via the lense of his first boston bean Apr 2018 #2
It is a well know fact that he has been after the Clintons forever lunamagica Apr 2018 #11
Agreed. Was shocked... zentrum Apr 2018 #3
There is something to be said for the unvarnished truth. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #4
IDK, kinda liked it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #5
Its time we fight back. Hard. Adrahil Apr 2018 #7
Lol that shocks you ? I was disgusted at a doctor lying about his height weight and other shit JI7 Apr 2018 #23
The doctor is a paid shill, but zentrum Apr 2018 #46
It's how one writes a good book. Have you ever written a book without describing the characters? Doodley Apr 2018 #31
Comey's also a gumshoe. You just know he keys in on appearance and personality tics. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #35
More attempts to undermine... Adrahil Apr 2018 #6
No. This is about Comey. Both can be pund scum lunamagica Apr 2018 #12
This article is pond scum and meant to give Trump a pass. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #16
No. The timing is completely transparent Adrahil Apr 2018 #19
This article is full of crap PJMcK Apr 2018 #8
+1 OnDoutside Apr 2018 #15
And what abou the fact that Comey spent 10 minutes denouncing Hillary'semail practices before lunamagica Apr 2018 #22
No, I'm not okay with that PJMcK Apr 2018 #29
Spending 10 minutes bashing Hillary is just noise. OK lunamagica Apr 2018 #32
Sarcasm is weak sauce PJMcK Apr 2018 #38
+100 smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #27
Fuck that. Stop using what he did to Clinton to defend trump JI7 Apr 2018 #9
Nobody is defending trump. Don't be absurd lunamagica Apr 2018 #10
You are defending Trump who needs Democrats to agree Comey should be fired, but it isn't true...his Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #14
You are projecting too much onto Comey. Like he is some kind of hero or saviour lunamagica Apr 2018 #17
I hate what he did to Hillary...but in condening Comey you play Trump's game and help him get rid Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #21
My posts can do that? Really? If I had such power, Hillary would be president now lunamagica Apr 2018 #24
I may be wrong, but from what I read it doesn't look to me like you and many others lunamagica Apr 2018 #30
You posted a piece which is mainly about defending trump JI7 Apr 2018 #37
I am a practical person. What is done is done. Comey's firing was obstrution...and I won't join in Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #47
He is going after trump right now. The Clinton thing is separate JI7 Apr 2018 #20
THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2018 #44
Fine, just know that there is nothing we can do to help Hillary Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #48
My feeling is that he is being quite deliberate in stoking Trump, by referring to the hookers and OnDoutside Apr 2018 #13
From the Crilly (author of the OP) Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #18
Yup, the whole thing is about trump being the fucking victim JI7 Apr 2018 #25
Has anyone seen the things the President of the United States says? Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #26
Criticizing Comey only serves to support Spanky. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Apr 2018 #45
Trump absolutely agrees with you. Is that a good thing? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #49
Im not willing to throw Comey under the bus right now Clarity2 Apr 2018 #33
No. Snackshack Apr 2018 #34
Trump is a deliberately weird looking m----- f----- DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #36
compared to the moron? WTF. pleeeese. pansypoo53219 Apr 2018 #39
You sound like you're angry that Comey is getting attention. I wonder why? PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #40
+1. obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2018 #41
Sigh...I've explained it several times, but here it goes again lunamagica Apr 2018 #42
Who gave Mr. Comey that voice to do all that in the first place? nolabels Apr 2018 #43

Sanity Claws

(21,863 posts)
1. I don't take headlines like this seriously
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:10 PM
Apr 2018

The author is describing Comey in relation to Trump. No sane person could fault anyone's ego if the person is somehow being related to Trump. Trump is the one with the ego issue; compared to Trump, no one could say Comey has an ego issue.

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
2. Yep. Every action he takes must be viewed via the lense of his first
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:12 PM
Apr 2018

unethical statement

If he had followed protocol of not commenting in investigations he would not have found himself speaking out eleven days before an election.

He was wrong in count one and complicit in swaying an election in the second one.

Both harmful to Hillary.

Makes one wonder how much of it was not wanting to report to a woman president named Hillary.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
3. Agreed. Was shocked...
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:14 PM
Apr 2018

…when he talked about Trump's orange coloring too and too white eye sockets. All true, but it's beneath a serious grown up government official to talk like that. It's the rhetoric of ten year olds insulting each other on the school yard. Lacks dignity and the gravitas of what has happened to the country.

Such pettiness makes it harder to defend his credibility.

Guy has an unawareness you could drive a truck through.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
4. There is something to be said for the unvarnished truth.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:18 PM
Apr 2018

With his too long ties, orange hue, suits a size too big, ridiculous hairstyle, and white eye sockets from wearing goggles during tanning sessions Donald Trump looks like a painted clown. If not for his money, fame, and position people would literally laugh in his face.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
7. Its time we fight back. Hard.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:05 PM
Apr 2018

Dignity and decorum have not been successful
tactics against this asshole.

JI7

(89,286 posts)
23. Lol that shocks you ? I was disgusted at a doctor lying about his height weight and other shit
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:24 PM
Apr 2018

When he pays people to lie about these things i have no problem and encourage people to tell the truth.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
46. The doctor is a paid shill, but
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:37 PM
Apr 2018

….Comey is supposed to be talking about principle—not about how ugly someone is.

For me, it's a symptom of a degraded country, where Trump twit-speak is getting normalized.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. No. The timing is completely transparent
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:20 PM
Apr 2018

And if you ate falling for this bullshit, step and revaluate the situation. This narrative setves ONE purpose.

PJMcK

(22,068 posts)
8. This article is full of crap
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:05 PM
Apr 2018

There are numerous factual errors in this article.

I'm too busy to bother rebutting everything wrong therein, but here's an easy one:

It was not enough, you'll remember, that the FBI had pored through Hillary Clinton's emails as it investigated her use of a private email server and concluded that there were no charges to answer: James Comey's Ego wanted to be the one to announce it.


Mr. Comey was structurally forced to be "the one to announce it." Because Bill Clinton had boarder Attorney General Loretta Lynch's plane and conversed with her, she was forced to recuse herself from the email investigation. That left it to Mr. Comey who was the superior officer conducting the investigation. (Hey, Bill! How'd that work out for your wife?)

Mr. Comey may very well have a large ego but so might the article's author, Rob Crilly. The difference is that Mr. Comey had to deal with facts whereas Mr. Crilly makes unsubstantiated personal attacks. He's a hack.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
22. And what abou the fact that Comey spent 10 minutes denouncing Hillary'semail practices before
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:24 PM
Apr 2018

getting to the fact that no further action would be taken? Are you OK with that?

And him never mentioning that rump was under investigation? Was that part of hos integrity? GMAB

PJMcK

(22,068 posts)
29. No, I'm not okay with that
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:33 PM
Apr 2018

But that wasn't my point at all.

I was criticizing the commentary's author for his loose use of facts to make his point.

I get it: you don't like Mr. Comey. I don't care.

What I do care about is that we don't rewrite history. If Loretta Lynch had told Mr. Clinton to stay off her plane, Mr. Comey wouldn't have had to make the statement. The rest is just noise.

PJMcK

(22,068 posts)
38. Sarcasm is weak sauce
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:57 PM
Apr 2018

Actually, I never said I liked Mr. Comey. In fact, I don't and thanks for keeping your words out of my mouth.

My criticism had to do with the author of the commentary. The issue regarding Mr. Comey was only one of many factual errors in the piece. That's what I was writing about and thought I made clear. Sorry you couldn't see that.

However, I'm very pleased if Mr. Comey's presence in the media and the various Trump investigations causes distress for Team Trump. Anything that makes him sweat is good by me. That includes Stormy Daniels and her loudmouth lawyer, the other women who credibly accuse Trump of various acts and anyone else who can put Trump under a microscope.

He's a danger and must be exposed. The referenced article is lame and disingenuous and the author wrote like a hack. I hope that's clear.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
10. Nobody is defending trump. Don't be absurd
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:08 PM
Apr 2018

Comey may be useful now, but he is as deplorable as the rest of them

Demsrule86

(68,775 posts)
14. You are defending Trump who needs Democrats to agree Comey should be fired, but it isn't true...his
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

firing was because of the Russia investigation.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
17. You are projecting too much onto Comey. Like he is some kind of hero or saviour
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:18 PM
Apr 2018

that slimeball will let you down big time.

Me? I don't trust him to do anything more than what's good and convenient for him.

My money is on Muller. Now, that is a true patriot and a man of integrity. He will get the job done..

Demsrule86

(68,775 posts)
21. I hate what he did to Hillary...but in condening Comey you play Trump's game and help him get rid
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:23 PM
Apr 2018

a witness who can cause him great harm.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
24. My posts can do that? Really? If I had such power, Hillary would be president now
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:26 PM
Apr 2018

and trump clan, plus Ryan Sessions AND Comey would be in jail

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
30. I may be wrong, but from what I read it doesn't look to me like you and many others
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:42 PM
Apr 2018

really hate what he did to Hillary (and more importantly, do a legitimate presidential election). He has been after the Clintons for decades but we're supposed to think he didn't mean to influence the election outcome.

All I'm reading is posters twisting themselves into pretzels with explanations and excuses made out of thin air for why he acted the way he did; while at the same time fawning over him about his moral superiority and integrity, blah, blah, blah

It would be one thing if he was seen as useful at this moment, but he has been put on a pedestal.

He is undeserving of such praise.

Demsrule86

(68,775 posts)
47. I am a practical person. What is done is done. Comey's firing was obstrution...and I won't join in
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:11 PM
Apr 2018

and condemn Comey make him less credible as a witness because Trump will then use it to escape justice. I was devastated when Hillary lost as was my entire family. But we can't change what happened, and yes I do blame Comey. But we are here now a year past the worst election in my lifetime. We have a criminal president and going after Comey just doesn't make sense. Trump expects us to do that you know. And this will be how the GOP rationalize allowing Trump to continue his assault on our Republic.

JI7

(89,286 posts)
20. He is going after trump right now. The Clinton thing is separate
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:22 PM
Apr 2018

And should not be used to defend trump which is what this is doing.

Demsrule86

(68,775 posts)
48. Fine, just know that there is nothing we can do to help Hillary
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:15 PM
Apr 2018

Clinton. It is a year past the election. When you attack Comey, you help Trump survive. I can't change the past but I can damn well not act in ways that help Trump evade justice.

OnDoutside

(19,985 posts)
13. My feeling is that he is being quite deliberate in stoking Trump, by referring to the hookers and
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:12 PM
Apr 2018

small hands. He knew Trump couldn't resist in going loopy about it....it doesn't hurt book sales !!!

Demsrule86

(68,775 posts)
18. From the Crilly (author of the OP)
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:20 PM
Apr 2018

"The sneering about President Trump's workday habits smack of the sort of snobbery that is often jealousy dressed up as principle.
No one would raise an eyebrow if the button on his desk summoned a cup of green tea. Of if he sent his assistant out to fetch dinner from a Washington steakhouse rather than McDonald's (you may recall that Trump reportedly sent his assistant on a McDonald's run when the White House kitchen burger did not quite measure up).

Who wouldn't want to leverage the position of most powerful person in the world to choose your own dinner and drinks and set your own workday start time? At a minimum?"


Awwww he likes Trump he really does.

Response to Trust Buster (Reply #28)

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
33. Im not willing to throw Comey under the bus right now
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:46 PM
Apr 2018

I dont think anyone should. His credibility is essential to an obstruction case. I think this is more complicated than we understand. We may not have all the facts until trump is gone.

I do agree however that he shouldnt have been so inflammatory in the book. But we are all human, and imagine being fired the way he was after being career FBI, and having your reputation under fire by the repukes and Trump.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
34. No.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:46 PM
Apr 2018

It is not how they are supposed to behave. What he did to Secretary Clinton was abhorrent and because of that he is partly responsible for this situation he finds himself in now.

Karma...it never forgets.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
42. Sigh...I've explained it several times, but here it goes again
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 07:57 PM
Apr 2018

I think that the way Comey acted in July, bashing Hillary as he was supposed to exonerated was a deplorable, partisan thing to do, and it was done to harm her campaign. He gave ammunition to trump, and the media barely mentioned nothing was found. The focus was on Comey basing her.

Then, ELEVEN days before the election he attacks her again, while conveniently not mentioning that trump was being investigated. Let's not forget that this man is a republican has been after the Clintons for decades...but sure, he wasn't acting in a partisan manner, or trying to influence the election...yeah, right.

Just do a search on DU back then to see how the board felt about Comey.

But now, just because he is critical of trump, so many of those who despised Comey back then have done a 180 degree turn and are twisting themselves into pretzels to justify and excuse his behavior. Suddenly he is an honorable ma, full of integrity, a patriot, honest...blah, bhal

I would be one thing to say that Comey is a scumbag, but he is useful now...but this idol worship is disgusting, and I be you he won't even deliver what they are expecting of him.

As far as I'm concerned, I'd wish trump and Comey would just destroy each other.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
43. Who gave Mr. Comey that voice to do all that in the first place?
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:15 PM
Apr 2018

Persons who say they have never had foibles and prejudices themselves should be throwing the rocks all by themselves. We are all being played by those that make their living off of this kind of thing. The easiest thing in the world to do is to get people to follow each other like a herd of cattle. I can't fault that either but I also know some people that don't. As to what kind of person Mr. Comey is I have no idea but if he has to things relevant to be listening to, then I will be listening

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