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Dear Democratic Senators: Please pay the GOP back for the way they treated one (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 OP
Merrick Garland comes to mind..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #1
That is when we should have gone to the streets and never left. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #2
Mitch McConnell Broke the Constituion With That Stunt OMGWTF Apr 2018 #22
Yes, and there may have been reasons why he didn't, but my wish for that time would have been rwsanders Apr 2018 #23
I hope you're not holding your breath. Boomerproud Apr 2018 #3
Your comment is not helpful. I support the party Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #4
Yet you create a thread pleading with the party leaders to fight back. CrispyQ Apr 2018 #5
I support the party. Sorry, I know that is not popular with some. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #6
Where did the other poster say they didn't support the party? CrispyQ Apr 2018 #7
Depends on whether you are known for saying the dems are corrupt or Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #8
So you don't see the irony CrispyQ Apr 2018 #9
I see you ignored my qualifier, good choice. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #10
I agree with you CrispyQ. I think the tenor of the rest of this thread is meant to be argumentative. erronis Apr 2018 #20
He is not pleading with them to fight back. He is suggesting a tactic for them to use to fight back. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #29
YEP!! rwsanders Apr 2018 #24
Have you seen the price of powder lately? TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #26
This is the last year of the tRump Presidency. No more judicial confirmations. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #11
The McConnell Rule cab67 Apr 2018 #13
That would be an excellent theme SCantiGOP Apr 2018 #17
Sometimes I wish we had a Democratic leader in the Senate FakeNoose Apr 2018 #15
I was thinking this this afternoon. NNadir Apr 2018 #12
And don't offer to give them advice to help them out. jalan48 Apr 2018 #14
Considering How Truly Awful the Trump Appointees Tend to Be dlk Apr 2018 #16
I can hear the howls of indignation now, BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #18
and fight them on everything, & I mean everything elmac Apr 2018 #19
Exactly! Especially considering Republican History with.. well.. EVERYTHING! Amimnoch Apr 2018 #21
I have been saying this forever. Dems need to get down and dirty, stinky ass dirty Pepsidog Apr 2018 #28
Yeah Im not one of those tolerant understanding liberals 47of74 Apr 2018 #32
We need more a lot more intolerant liberals to take the country back to steal a phase Pepsidog Apr 2018 #34
Its a sad fact LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #30
Speak for yourself 47of74 Apr 2018 #33
Total unadulterated obstruction should be Dem policy Pepsidog Apr 2018 #25
Here here!! Oh, and while you're at it, once the Democrats take over the House in 2018... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #27
Dems are too nice and polite and goody-two-shoey TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #31

rwsanders

(2,608 posts)
23. Yes, and there may have been reasons why he didn't, but my wish for that time would have been
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:09 PM
Apr 2018

for Obama to say, well I don't care if it takes you 20 years to put it to a vote, you WILL vote on MY pick for the Supreme Court, END OF STORY!!!

Boomerproud

(7,968 posts)
3. I hope you're not holding your breath.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:45 PM
Apr 2018

Our fearless leaders are too busy keeping the powder dry. Never fear-they'll use it someday
.

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
5. Yet you create a thread pleading with the party leaders to fight back.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:01 PM
Apr 2018

So you must see something inadequate there.

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
7. Where did the other poster say they didn't support the party?
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:07 PM
Apr 2018

This is a site for liberals and dems & we should be able to call out the deficiencies of the party & not be accused of not supporting the party.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,125 posts)
8. Depends on whether you are known for saying the dems are corrupt or
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:09 PM
Apr 2018

both parties are the same or corp dems run the show, I could go on.

As long as one never says that garbage and as long as one ALWAYS says things like vote for ANY democrat because the alternative is NAZIS, then fine.

I am not saying anyone here says those things, I dont have the time or patience to research it, I am merely making a blanket statement because those things are said by some who claim to be democrats.

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
9. So you don't see the irony
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

of you scolding someone for saying the dems don't fight, with your plea to the dems to fight? Got it! Have a nice day judging others.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,125 posts)
10. I see you ignored my qualifier, good choice.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:15 PM
Apr 2018

You could easily just say you agree with me, that at this time there is no choice but to not only vote for any dem but the most likely one to win even if that means a right leaning dem

erronis

(15,371 posts)
20. I agree with you CrispyQ. I think the tenor of the rest of this thread is meant to be argumentative.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:49 PM
Apr 2018
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
29. He is not pleading with them to fight back. He is suggesting a tactic for them to use to fight back.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:26 PM
Apr 2018

2 different things.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
17. That would be an excellent theme
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:09 PM
Apr 2018

Have our Congressmen refer to the “McConnell Rule” on the floor during debate.
Point out that we are merely holding off on these appointments and bills so the American people will have the right to speak in the next election and decide what we should do.
However, for this to be effective we have to take back the House and, in order to delay judicial appointments, we need 51 in the Senate.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
15. Sometimes I wish we had a Democratic leader in the Senate
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:07 PM
Apr 2018

...who's as big of an asshole as Mitch McConnell. But you know what? We're the good guys and I'm glad we don't. We can beat those assholes and still be good guys, I really believe that.

Hope and resolve, that's what we need to win this!

NNadir

(33,563 posts)
12. I was thinking this this afternoon.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:50 PM
Apr 2018

In the case of a supreme court vacancy, in a situation where the ersatz orange President is facing impeachment and the Democrats control both houses of Congress, the argument that an indicted President is not going to be allowed to appoint justices, since they will all represent conflicts of interest.

The racist pig McConnell - having discounted the precedent set by the founding fathers John Adams and Thomas Jefferson in the case of the great Supreme Court Justice John Marshall - will have provided a perfect precedent.

The Republican Party is now the enemy of Democracy, an enemy of the constitution, and in fact, the greatest threat to this country since the Civil War, also started by racists.

It is ironic that in 1860 the least racist party was the Republican Party whereas the modern Republican Party is the most racist political party to have existed in this country for nearly a century.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
16. Considering How Truly Awful the Trump Appointees Tend to Be
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:08 PM
Apr 2018

It would be doing our country a great disservice to vote for them anyway.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
18. I can hear the howls of indignation now,
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:18 PM
Apr 2018

and feel the butthurt. They have no shame, honour or sense of hypocrisy or irony..

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
19. and fight them on everything, & I mean everything
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018

do not let them pass any legislation, put roadblocks up, do whatever it takes. The press will not help like they helped the fascists when President Obama was in office so the fight must be as hard and mean-spirited as humanly possible.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
21. Exactly! Especially considering Republican History with.. well.. EVERYTHING!
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:59 PM
Apr 2018

It wasn’t just the way they treated the nominations of President Obama.

Just looking at SCOTUS nominations, people need a refresher of just how MANY times the Democratic Senate Majority has confirmed a Republican nominee, and how few times a Republican Senate has confirmed a Democratic Nominee:

GW Bush got both Souter and Thomas on with Democratic Party Senate majorities.
Reagan got Kennedy on with a Democratic Party Senate Majority.
Ford got J.P. Stevens on - Democratic Party Senate maj.
Nixon got Burger, Blackmun, Lewis Powell, and Rehnquist on.
Ike got Brennan, Whittaker, and Stewart on with that same Democratic Party Senate majority.

NOT SINCE PRESIDENT CLEVELAND IN 1894 HAS THE REPUBLICAN HELD SENATE EVER CONFIRMED A SINGLE DEMOCRATIC POTUS SCOTUS NOMINATION.

We sooo need to stop letting our sensibilities, and desire for a more adult approach turn us into doormats again.. and again.. and again.

We allow them to impeach, and swamp our President Clinton due to Monica Lewenski, then let them get away with ELECTING a man who assumes the oath of office with how many accusations of sexual harrassment, sexual assault, and even one case of sexual assault on a minor? All without so much as an inquiry..

Don’t even get me started on what we allowed with Senator Franken, while they backed and tried like hell to get Roy Moore elected. Hell the only reason that jackass isn’t in the Senate is because of the voter turnout, and he STILL almost was made Senator.

We allow them to gerrymander the hell out of the red states where they have majority, yet do nothing to gerrymander our blue led states! WTF?? I get that we don’t agree with it, I get that it’s morally wrong, but we can’t keep sitting back and let them have the advanage of effectively disenfranchising the REAL majority of people all just ot maintain our higher ground.

I love FLOTUS Michelle Obama to no end, but fuck this whole “they go low, we go high” bullshit. It ain’t a-workin’.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
32. Yeah Im not one of those tolerant understanding liberals
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 06:56 PM
Apr 2018

If I was elected I’d hit the Republicans so hard that they’d scream for peace. Every insult, every crime, every indignity would be noted and logged for later retribution.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
30. Its a sad fact
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:35 PM
Apr 2018

No one here WANTS to have to get our hands dirty. We WANT to go high when they go low. We are after all, bleeding heart liberals. We have that 'disadvantage' of having a thing called empathy, a word mocked by the likes of Rush Limpballs. They have no desire to feel others pain, like struggling immigrants, racial profiled and harrassed black men, like teenage mass shooting victims. Even for Republicans that we think have been treated unfairly!

But now is a unique moment in history. Maybe one day Democrats can go back to folding their cards early and they'll actually get a gentlemans/gentlewoman's response and respect. When we can lead the way back to a less partisan divisive Washington. But that is not our job now!

Its almost like the MSM has also been so conditioned into following the narrative that we helped to build. So much so that Democrats are judged twice as hard as a Republican for the same 'crimes and misdemeanors'. If its a Republican caught, its "Oh well, he was an R, nuff said". A Democrat has evolved into a toothless domesticated animal, who is not a stubborn mule, but a donkey that will be led along and make sure they never step off the path lest they be yelled at by Fox News. Or worse, other Democrats.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
27. Here here!! Oh, and while you're at it, once the Democrats take over the House in 2018...
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:17 PM
Apr 2018

let's impeach BLOTUS ... what's fair is fair, after Clinton was impeached.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
31. Dems are too nice and polite and goody-two-shoey
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 05:31 PM
Apr 2018

to make republican politicians regret anything that they do or say... I'm very disheartened sometimes that we are depending on Dems to push back against the republicans about ANYTHING!

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