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Nina Turner.......... (Original Post) mfcorey1 Apr 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author highplainsdem Apr 2018 #1
She wasn't too bad today.... nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #2
She is the definition of bad... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #8
Nope there's way worse out there...but I'll tell you one thing she knows how to get a Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #12
I despise her because she is anti-Democratic and her organization is about destroying the party. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #13
That is the sole purpose to Nina today. Wwcd Apr 2018 #24
Exactly right. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #28
Nina Turner has gone from being openly skeptical of the Russian investigation Cha Apr 2018 #82
Yep, so why would there be a SINGLE fan of hers here on this PRO Democratic party board? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #128
I have no idea...have often wondered the same thing. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #135
We need more than getting a reaction in our party EffieBlack Apr 2018 #34
Who said I said it was a good reaction? Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #49
No one has argued otherwise. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #97
Hmmmm...what is with the former Bernie surrogates? LexVegas Apr 2018 #3
Former? Blue_true Apr 2018 #19
K & R your post. Wwcd Apr 2018 #25
NINA + Anti Democratic Party ... so don't let her be a delegate. Keep her away from the Dem party trueblue2007 Apr 2018 #67
About President Obama, too.. anything to be useful to Cha Apr 2018 #83
I wonder how much damage they will do before folks will get it. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #129
They still have their defenders here. Most are in hiding, but they are here. Blue_true Apr 2018 #133
Agreed, and the folks you refer to purposely waste our time. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #134
What did she say ? CentralMass Apr 2018 #22
. DURHAM D Apr 2018 #40
You know, when I post something like this about Sen Sanders and his motives, TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #64
I cant stand her! arthritisR_US Apr 2018 #4
I don't listen to that raving ranting lunatic. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #5
I am not impressed with Nina Turner. kentuck Apr 2018 #6
Here are a few choice quotes from her interview with "The Nation" last year (CM is the interviewer): George II Apr 2018 #79
Hay nina! Got your 'our job to fit in with you' sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #84
What? sheshe2 Apr 2018 #85
Never cmeneer Apr 2018 #7
Got that right! tonyt53 Apr 2018 #11
Nina have a lake house too? Big Ed got one! Wwcd Apr 2018 #9
... needs to go sit her ass down EffieBlack Apr 2018 #10
who is nina turner? CTyankee Apr 2018 #15
TURNER was in Hillary's camp early on, then TURNED to join Bernie. oasis Apr 2018 #18
Sorry to disagree, but she has only ever been in her own camp. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #80
She comments on a book to the media, Tapper sheshe2 Apr 2018 #77
+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #78
What did she say ? Are there any links ? CentralMass Apr 2018 #14
Irrelevant.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #92
I wish she would get off her high horse and come back to the party bottomofthehill Apr 2018 #16
Don't want her, don't need her. DURHAM D Apr 2018 #17
Do you know what she said on CNN and if so can you fill us in ? CentralMass Apr 2018 #20
I did not see her this am, was walking th edit before the rain bottomofthehill Apr 2018 #29
Thank you. I would like to know what show she appeared on and what she said that was offensive CentralMass Apr 2018 #38
I believe it was State of the Union. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #48
Here. lapucelle Apr 2018 #58
Thank you. Her comments seemed very sane and reasonably to me. CentralMass Apr 2018 #65
NO!!! She is a loud mouth kook. Blue_true Apr 2018 #21
Yes to that! cmeneer Apr 2018 #23
She should stay with the Party she's shilling against democray for. Wwcd Apr 2018 #26
Her negativism seems the be the antithesis of what "progressives".... BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #47
Correct. They are not Progressives. But it sure was a useful name to hijack when Wwcd Apr 2018 #53
Hey, I'm as outraged as anyone at Nina Turner and her obvious hatred of Dems KitSileya Apr 2018 #43
She is a troll and she lost her election JI7 Apr 2018 #30
I would never trust her again. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #31
She went off the deep end and lost all credibility RhodeIslandOne Apr 2018 #35
There's A Lesson Here Me. Apr 2018 #27
Jennifer Granholm shut her down nicely redstateblues Apr 2018 #32
Hi redstateblues.. What did Jennifer Granholm Cha Apr 2018 #54
So no one seems to even know what she said. Did you watch it ? CentralMass Apr 2018 #33
Why? Nina agenda has been a constant & predictable word salad of bitter division. Wwcd Apr 2018 #39
She's talking up the right wing talking point about the Cohen search warrant KitSileya Apr 2018 #45
Talking up RW Trump talking points should get her name banned from DU Wwcd Apr 2018 #56
Thank you, Kit! Good grief! That is Cha Apr 2018 #57
Yeah, all of a sudden shes a Patriot. R B Garr Apr 2018 #60
For the record, an excerpt of the transcript from the show CentralMass Apr 2018 #68
Thanks for posting this. AtomicKitten Apr 2018 #102
Thanks for bringing up Hillary which just shows Nina's phoniness and R B Garr Apr 2018 #120
Who? ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #36
I love Nina! BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #37
Nina is another Nader. That's all she's in it for. That's nothing I would support. Wwcd Apr 2018 #41
To each their own but she's not a Green BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #42
She isn't a lot of things. But the method to her madness is the same. Wwcd Apr 2018 #44
So true. Her anti everything Debbie Downer routine R B Garr Apr 2018 #55
Word salad, her inconsistancy of message give her incompetance away everytime. Wwcd Apr 2018 #61
She supported Jill Stein in the GE. KitSileya Apr 2018 #46
This Jill Stein? Wwcd Apr 2018 #50
Yeah, that Jill Stein. KitSileya Apr 2018 #51
This is untrue BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #69
Wow! Bill Clinton helped Turner raise money for her R B Garr Apr 2018 #73
Committment to the Dem Party she's been licking her chops at destroying? Wwcd Apr 2018 #126
I don't think much of anyone who has openly said she'd support some republicans against Democrats. George II Apr 2018 #63
She isn't a progressive anymore JI7 Apr 2018 #52
It sure was a handy title while she was waffleing between Party loyalty. Wwcd Apr 2018 #59
According to who? BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #70
According to everyone with their eyes Cha Apr 2018 #72
Which issues does Nina support which are not progressive? BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #75
Right now.. the one where she gives trump cover for Cha Apr 2018 #76
That's not an issue, it's a point of view BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #87
It most certainly is an "issue".. Nina makes it one. Cha Apr 2018 #89
Ensuring the President isn't above the law isn't an issue? Adrahil Apr 2018 #116
It is definitely an issue -- it is the issue of the day. Democracy and R B Garr Apr 2018 #119
No it isn't an issue BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #121
Being a concern troll for a racist's lawyer certainly isn't a strong voice. R B Garr Apr 2018 #123
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #124
It is a pretty big ISSUE for me when someone excuses the traitors actions. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #130
Not an issue? Really? ehrnst Apr 2018 #122
Ugh. Nina Turner is useful to trump and corp meida.. Cha Apr 2018 #71
A strong vocal black woman who talks progressive values BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #88
I see by this thread and the other one on Nina Turner that Cha Apr 2018 #90
Your sources are God awful BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #99
My sources are the best.. I wouldn't expect anyone Cha Apr 2018 #105
No actually they're horrible BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #109
It figures.. someone pushing nina turner resorts to Cha Apr 2018 #110
Their agenda is deadly for the human race, wish it wasnt tolerated here Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #131
We don't insult other posters here mcar Apr 2018 #112
Sure about that? BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #114
Nina is just snother nader but without any accomplishments Gothmog Apr 2018 #111
Spot on. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #125
She's an alt-left token in a mostly white movement. radius777 Apr 2018 #62
Thank you, radius.. Cha Apr 2018 #66
Yup nt EffieBlack Apr 2018 #74
So, someone calls.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #93
Nope EffieBlack Apr 2018 #95
Well.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #96
I'm "racially sensitive" enough to know that black women aren't delicate snowflakes EffieBlack Apr 2018 #98
What I don't understand is, disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #115
I think she DID take the easy route. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #118
Fortunately most people figured it out by now. I am still concerned about millions of new voters Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #132
I think being helpful to the Democratic party is not her priority The empressof all Apr 2018 #81
It's not that she's hurting the Democratic Party.. Cha Apr 2018 #94
"faux-prog frauds" Me. Apr 2018 #101
I never knew of her until Cha Apr 2018 #104
Way Different Then Me. Apr 2018 #106
Whatever happened I hope she realizes what she said Cha Apr 2018 #108
She is one of the people whose appearance on any TV program guarantees Atticus Apr 2018 #86
Lover her... disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #91
Nina is great and I deeply admire her BlueDestiny Apr 2018 #100
She isn't on our side Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #103
I remember Nina when she was just a solid outspoken politician from Ohio. Caliman73 Apr 2018 #107
Ah, the Irrelevant Ms. Turner Stinky The Clown Apr 2018 #113
Isn't she the one Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #117
This is why we should NEVER FORGET those so-called self-identified progressives who refused to vote still_one Apr 2018 #127

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,774 posts)
13. I despise her because she is anti-Democratic and her organization is about destroying the party.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:11 PM
Apr 2018

I think there are very few worse than her.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
24. That is the sole purpose to Nina today.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:08 PM
Apr 2018

Another who used the Clintons & the benefit of the Democratic Party for self promotion & enrichment.

Cha

(297,975 posts)
82. Nina Turner has gone from being openly skeptical of the Russian investigation
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:44 PM
Apr 2018


Yeah, nina is "worse" worse worse.

"political analyst" my Democratic

turner is useful to trump and corp media

Demsrule
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
97. No one has argued otherwise.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:20 PM
Apr 2018

"Nope there's way worse out there..."

No one has argued otherwise, regardless of your reactions.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Former?
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:36 PM
Apr 2018

She is very much a Bernie surrogate right now. Our Revolution is Bernie's child and Nina Turner is leading it the way Bernie wants it led. Bernie rips democrats everytime a microphone is in his face, so why do you expect different conduct from Turner?

trueblue2007

(17,245 posts)
67. NINA + Anti Democratic Party ... so don't let her be a delegate. Keep her away from the Dem party
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 05:39 PM
Apr 2018

she is hateful woman i think. She was horrible about Hillary. Spewing lies etc.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
133. They still have their defenders here. Most are in hiding, but they are here.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 07:26 PM
Apr 2018

To me politics boil down to this principle. When you are stymied, take the route that is most likely to regain an advantage for you. 30% of Americans are so messed up that nothing seems to reach them. Another 15% isn't much better. 40% hate Trump and want anyone else, 15% can be convinced to go either way, who has the better looking argument win them.

Nina Turner and her ilk are part of that incorrigible 45%, time spent talking to them is wasted. So, why bother? Focus on those that we can work with to move forward.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
64. You know, when I post something like this about Sen Sanders and his motives,
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 05:10 PM
Apr 2018

my posts get deleted. I wonder WHY?

George II

(67,782 posts)
79. Here are a few choice quotes from her interview with "The Nation" last year (CM is the interviewer):
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:33 PM
Apr 2018

CM: How will Our Revolution relate to the DNC, the DCCC, the DSCC, that kind of establishment that so many activists and politicians, including you, have frequently criticized?

NT: I don’t think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It’s their job to fit in with us.
......

CM: And how will Our Revolution relate to progressives within government who didn’t back Bernie, like Sherrod Brown and Tammy Baldwin, if they go on to seek reelection?

NT: If they want Our Revolution’s endorsement they will seek it like everybody else and so they gotta start with the local affiliates, and if the local affiliates say that this is the person that we want to back, then there it is. There it is.
......

CM: And what about the Democratic Party at large. Do you see Our Revolution working to bring some unity to factions in the party?

NT: No. Not really.....
......

CM: Will the group be endorsing non-Democrats?

NT: You know what, yes. We are open to it. And for me, I’ve also heard the senator say this lately too
......

https://www.thenation.com/article/nina-turner-it-is-not-our-job-to-fit-into-the-democratic-establishment/

sheshe2

(84,029 posts)
85. What?
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:10 PM
Apr 2018
CM: How will Our Revolution relate to the DNC, the DCCC, the DSCC, that kind of establishment that so many activists and politicians, including you, have frequently criticized?

NT: I don’t think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It’s their job to fit in with us.
......


If we want to "fit in" to the Democratic Party as defined by 'Our Revolution' then we Democrats who have been around for eons need to suck up to them? Who the hell says they are 'us'. They seem divisive. And all I have read...not really supportive of Democrats in general.

CM: And how will Our Revolution relate to progressives within government who didn’t back Bernie, like Sherrod Brown and Tammy Baldwin, if they go on to seek reelection?

NT: If they want Our Revolution’s endorsement they will seek it like everybody else and so they gotta start with the local affiliates, and if the local affiliates say that this is the person that we want to back, then there it is. There it is.
......


The Revolution that says WE DEMOCRATS need to suck up to them for their support when they are saying that they will give full support to non Democrats. Wait What? This from a group that says we need to reach out to coddle trump supporters. We need to embrace, excite, coddle, nurture, beg, breast feed and cajole these people to vote for Democrats...yet by what I am seeing is Our Revolution saying Democrats can take a hike. It is my way or the highway.

CM: Will the group be endorsing non-Democrats?

NT: You know what, yes. We are open to it. And for me, I’ve also heard the senator say this lately too
......


Aaaah....the senator said that. Hmmm.



 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
9. Nina have a lake house too? Big Ed got one!
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apr 2018

Anothr voice for division. We See You Nina

If that's her purpose, then who's funding her & giving her that voice to keep the division going into this year & on thru 2020.

oasis

(49,464 posts)
18. TURNER was in Hillary's camp early on, then TURNED to join Bernie.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:35 PM
Apr 2018

After Trump's victory, TURNER TURNED on the Democratic Party. There is no doubt about TURNER'S ability to TURN a dollar.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
80. Sorry to disagree, but she has only ever been in her own camp.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:36 PM
Apr 2018

Those who willingly take her on show what they are made of also.

sheshe2

(84,029 posts)
77. She comments on a book to the media, Tapper
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:28 PM
Apr 2018

Then when questioned, she admits she never read...but would get around to it. Whoa. Say what?

bottomofthehill

(8,363 posts)
16. I wish she would get off her high horse and come back to the party
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:23 PM
Apr 2018

She was an effective voice and leader, then she got a little airtime after playing footsie with Bernie and then Jill Stein and I think she liked it.

Please, tone down the unrealistic BS and come back to the party. We need your voice.

bottomofthehill

(8,363 posts)
29. I did not see her this am, was walking th edit before the rain
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:18 PM
Apr 2018

And am more than willing to admit the has been tilting towards the crazy. I did find her to be a good member of the Dem Leadership in the state house and wish that that Nina would come back. The national TV exposure seems to have made her mad with power

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
48. I believe it was State of the Union.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:21 PM
Apr 2018

I was getting dressed while listening to it so can't tell you verbatim, but she seemed to be in agreement with Rick Santorum in his Comey bashing and also agreed that the raid on Cohen was unfair. Also Ronna Romney McDaniel, RNC Chair was also on the show bashing Comey and his book and saying that Comey had no credibility. Jake Tapper then asked her had she read the book and she said, "No" she hadn't but she planned to. So she was bashing him based on what he said in his book, yet she admitted she hadn't read it when asked by Tapper which seemed to take the wind out of her sail. Also, a few days ago she had announced an RNC campaign to discredit Comey. It just came across as the guests all were on the same side, the RNC.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
26. She should stay with the Party she's shilling against democray for.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

We'd never trust a word outta her two faced mouth.
She will never be one of us.
She chose her path to riches & fame by using anyone who'll fill her greedy belly.

She chose against America's free society for all its citizens.

Keep walking Nina the Nader

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
47. Her negativism seems the be the antithesis of what "progressives"....
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:57 PM
Apr 2018

...claim to be the important role of political choices.

Can't stand her yammering.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
53. Correct. They are not Progressives. But it sure was a useful name to hijack when
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:45 PM
Apr 2018

..2016 needed to divide the only Party who consistantly stands for ALL citizens, & elect Putin/Trump. The Party of billionare fascists.


They have a long long way to go before they can ever claim the Progressive title.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
43. Hey, I'm as outraged as anyone at Nina Turner and her obvious hatred of Dems
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:45 PM
Apr 2018

But I want to ask you to please think of your language. That's telling her to commit suicide you're saying, and we're better than that. Tell her to shut up, tell her to start attacking the Republicans and Trump, tell her to stop being so contemptible, if you wish, but I would appreciate it if you stopped using triggering phrases like that.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. There's A Lesson Here
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

Never offer donuts to someone who someone who thought their chosen candidate would become the Dem presidential nominee and she would run as veep.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
39. Why? Nina agenda has been a constant & predictable word salad of bitter division.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:22 PM
Apr 2018

Same shit stiring division for over 2 years now.

Nina's end game.
After that long a time, she holds no value but another Nader mouthpiece..

I wouldn't listen to anything Ed Schulz says anymore either.

Easy to define Nina's message since repeated it for years everytime she's got a mic.

She is not on the side of democracy for ALL.

She got a lakehouse too?

I despise her, Btw & she's constantly giving us a reason for that.
She owns that.

Nina the Nader is not what this country needs at a time when unity is so damned critical.







KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
45. She's talking up the right wing talking point about the Cohen search warrant
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:52 PM
Apr 2018

*And* she's comparing it to the FBI hounding MLK, jr. She'll not endear herself to the majority of the Black community by that, talkign about Trump's lawyer and MLK, jr in the same breath is practically sacrilegious.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
56. Talking up RW Trump talking points should get her name banned from DU
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:48 PM
Apr 2018

She has identifyied her loyalty.

Bye Nina
$$$$

R B Garr

(17,010 posts)
60. Yeah, all of a sudden shes a Patriot.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:51 PM
Apr 2018

She is so completely mixed up. Attention is her only consistent requirement.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
68. For the record, an excerpt of the transcript from the show
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 06:22 PM
Apr 2018

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1804/15/sotu.01.html

"Let me ask you. President Trump tweeting about Cohen writing -- quote -- "Attorney Client privilege is now a thing of the past. I have many -- too many lawyers and they are probably wondering when their offices, and even homes are going to be raided with everything, including their phones and computers taken. All lawyers are deflated and concerned."

You're somebody who cares a lot about civil liberties. Does this raid on Michael Cohen's office, home, hotel, his safe deposit boxes, his electronic items, does this concern you at all?

NINA TURNER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: A little and maybe, I mean, if there is something really there, you know, then we'll -- that remains to be seen. But certainly throughout the history of this country especially when it comes to African-American folks, Black Panthers, you know, Dr. King, Malcolm X, other civil rights freedom fighters you can see that sometimes the government can go too far in its effort and be skewed one way.

Now that's not to say that the Cohen incident is parallel to that. But as American citizens we should have some concern for how this goes even if it is against somebody we don't like. It's not about like or dislike. It is about how we operate as a government.

TAPPER: In fact when James Comey was FBI director he used to keep on his desk a letter sent by the FBI surreptitiously --

TURNER: Yes.

TAPPER: -- telling Martin Luther King, Dr. King --

TURNER: That's right.

TAPPER: -- to commit suicide --

TURNER: That's right.

TAPPER: -- and he left it there to remind himself of the abuses.

TURNER: That's right. They wired -- you know, you're talking about taking down statues. I mean, to have a building named after Hoover for God's sake, J. Edgar Hoover, you know, we should think about that as a country.

GRANHOLM: But then on the other -- the flip side of that, of course, is that you now have a president who is disparaging law enforcement at the highest level.

This attack against Comey and the attack against Rosenstein is an attack against Mueller. And he's trying to conflate it all.

And, you know, Comey in his book I mean, believe me I certainly had issues with how he handled the Hillary Clinton thing. That was a difference of opinion.

I'm not saying that he liked. I'm saying that it was -- it was totally inappropriate to release all that information while there is also an investigation going on into Trump and none of that came out during the election.

TURNER: We can talk about both of those things.

GRANHOLM: No. We can't -- we can talk about that. My point about that is just saying that Comey even in his book, so it's a really important thing which is that those who are standing by and allowing this president to attack someone like Bob Mueller are really accomplices and he is really referring I think to the people like the Republicans in Congress who are allowing this to happen. TAPPER: Let's -- while you are talking about Sarah -- about the White House and the president attacking Comey let's take a listen to what I think under any circumstances was an unusual attack from the White House podium against the former FBI director by Sarah Sanders this week."
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
102. Thanks for posting this.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 03:34 PM
Apr 2018

Her responses to Tapper's questions were reasonable and thoughtful, the knee-jerk posts here not so much. Nina commited the cardinal sin of supporting someone other than the establishment corporate/donor-centric choice, and damn if they're ever going to let that go.

Nina is a powerful voice for the people, advocating for progressive policy over the neoliberalism the Democratic Party now embraces. I am with her 100% in that endeavor.

R B Garr

(17,010 posts)
120. Thanks for bringing up Hillary which just shows Nina's phoniness and
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:43 AM
Apr 2018

why she was speaking to a certain audience to reinforce some empty talking points that support anything anti-Democrat. Hillary has absolutely nothing to do with this particular episode, but you bringing her up illustrates that Nina's special audience got what she was saying even though Nina was completely babbling in the context of the Sunday show panel she was on. That is really the point here, and why Nina's comments were so obviously misplaced.

If Nina were so CONCERNED about the FBI, she would have been addressing why the Cohen raid even happened. Reality is that the FBI actually did screw Hillary over, but Nina is not CONCERNED about the FBI overreach in *that* instance. She is only concerned about some contrived FBI attacks on Trump's lawyer. That is how you can tell she is speaking to a limited audience.

Thanks for confirming what we all heard, but she tried to gloss it over by a phony analogy about the FBI and MLK and Malcolm X. Uh, no.

 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
37. I love Nina!
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:39 PM
Apr 2018

A strong progressive black woman is a beautiful thing! I wish Melissa Harris Perry was still on MSNBC. One to watch is Tara Samples, that girl is going places!

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
44. She isn't a lot of things. But the method to her madness is the same.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:47 PM
Apr 2018

Party hopping is how she got where she is.
What her true beliefs are is debatable.
Maybe Nina's revolving door of political seeking fame has "evolved"

$$$$$$$

R B Garr

(17,010 posts)
55. So true. Her anti everything Debbie Downer routine
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:48 PM
Apr 2018

makes her sound completely mixed up and incompetent. She sounded laughable this morning.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
50. This Jill Stein?
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:38 PM
Apr 2018

Familar faces at her table..
Thanks Nina for showing your true Party loyalty.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
51. Yeah, that Jill Stein.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:41 PM
Apr 2018

She voted for her in the GE, if I'm not much mistaken.

What Nina Turner said can be seen here (it's around the 4:20 mark):

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/04/15/sotu-panel-full.cnn

R B Garr

(17,010 posts)
73. Wow! Bill Clinton helped Turner raise money for her
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:12 PM
Apr 2018

failed Ohio secretary of state bid. Well, well, well. Isn’t that interesting.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
126. Committment to the Dem Party she's been licking her chops at destroying?
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:44 AM
Apr 2018

That Dem Party?
What does anyone think Our Rev is for?
Its intent all along has been to unseat every Dem they can, & cause a split in the voter block that would have helped keep Trump out of the Presidency.
She has her own agenda & its not about loyalty to anyone but her self promotion of cockeyed ideology, borrowed in pieces from others before her and compiled into an idea that serves her own ambitions before the people she claims to stand for.
She's basically full of it when she claims "Committment to the Dem Party".
Our Revolution proves that point.


That Dem Party? Just more word salad from Nina.
She, like others' "committment to the Dem Party was a useful tool for "Money & Media".


 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
59. It sure was a handy title while she was waffleing between Party loyalty.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:50 PM
Apr 2018

Climb that ladder Nina!

Cha

(297,975 posts)
76. Right now.. the one where she gives trump cover for
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:23 PM
Apr 2018

his lawyer getting raided.

Like I said.. Turner is useful to trump and the corp media.

 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
87. That's not an issue, it's a point of view
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:16 AM
Apr 2018

Health care, education, wages, those sorts of things, issues.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
116. Ensuring the President isn't above the law isn't an issue?
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:43 AM
Apr 2018

And if she cared at all about the issues you listed, then she would be focused on fighting the orange asshole.

She is a professional gadfly. That's all. She like to hear herself complain. Especially about Democrats.

R B Garr

(17,010 posts)
119. It is definitely an issue -- it is the issue of the day. Democracy and
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:35 AM
Apr 2018

how it was attacked. She reveals her phoniness when she's more CONCERNED about how the FBI treated Trump's lawyer than how the FBI treated our nominee, Hillary Clinton. When she is more invested in umbrage about Trump's lawyer, nothing else she says is credible and is a reflection of her motives.

All those "issues" you mentioned are what every politician discusses, so she gets no special ribbons for discussing what every other politician is either campaigning or elected to discuss.

 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
121. No it isn't an issue
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 05:14 AM
Apr 2018

and by that I mean policy. It's TMZ politics is what it is and taking Nina's words and spinning them.
To many of us she isn't a phony either and is the real deal. It would seem that some have a problem with a black woman with a powerful voice and when you can't win on policy, you attack.

The FBI is not our friend nor has it ever been and this is what you're missing with what Nina is saying. MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, ask them how they feel about the FBI.

R B Garr

(17,010 posts)
123. Being a concern troll for a racist's lawyer certainly isn't a strong voice.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:46 AM
Apr 2018

It's a very predictable "TMZ" tactic for someone who has no voice but is trying to bring attention to herself. That's it.

Speaking of women, Nina didn't care about the actual, proven tactics used by the FBI to harm Hillary Clinton, but instead manufactures some outrage about the FBI overreaching for a white racist President's lawyer. That's how it's easy to see this isn't about the FBI at all, so to throw MLK and Malcolm X in with her TMZ tactic, she just shows that she is willing to be a patsy for the Trumpies. That is certainly not a strong voice.



 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
122. Not an issue? Really?
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:45 AM
Apr 2018

I guess if you want to offer up your own definitions for words, that's one thing.

But don't expect people to understand what you're talking about.

 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
88. A strong vocal black woman who talks progressive values
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:29 AM
Apr 2018

isn't useful to Trump at all. If anything it would appear some are rather afraid of her including Trump.
I don't get the outrage about what she said either. The FBI is not our friend and never has been. Under Hoover, they said MLK was a Russian communist spy, targeted MLK & have a history of targeting black activists (Black Panthers.) Nina is a social justice warrior fighting the good fight and I admire that.








 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
99. Your sources are God awful
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:47 PM
Apr 2018

Ragnarok Lobster? Seriously? You're going to cite him as a source? The same Ragnarok Lobster who tweeted this? Classy.






Nina isn't fooling anyone and I'm sorry if you dislike a strong black woman who talks with heart and soul while preaching progressive values. To each their own but nobody has said exactly how she is wrong in what she's saying however many are misrepresenting what she said. Let's break down the truth.





















 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
109. No actually they're horrible
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:10 PM
Apr 2018

And I wouldn't expect anybody to know what good sources are when they cite Lobster as a source.








Cha

(297,975 posts)
110. It figures.. someone pushing nina turner resorts to
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:25 PM
Apr 2018

insults.

That's all she ever has. You have nothing so you try to "kill the messenger". So typical.

I'm done.. you go ahead and keep up your insults.. it says everything about you and nothing about my sources.

 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
114. Sure about that?
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 05:00 AM
Apr 2018

Because "My sources are the best.. I wouldn't expect anyone who supports nina turner to know that." is pretty damn insulting but hey, I'm new here so of course I'm not white knighted.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
93. So, someone calls..
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:53 AM
Apr 2018

a strong black women a "token" & you don't have a problem with that.. surprising considering all your racial sensitivity last week.. your inconsistency is showing..

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
95. Nope
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:32 AM
Apr 2018

I don’t have a problem with her being called a token, because I think she IS a token - and not only a willing (albeit not very effective) one, but one who tries to exploit it to her own advantage for all it’s worth.

Here’s a clue - being “racially sensitive” does not mean defending every black person in every situation regardless how they behave. It also means calling out one of my own when I think they deserve it. And Nina Turner deserves it.

But thank you for your concern about how I choose to speak about other black people. If nothing else, it’s nice to know you’re paying attention to my posts.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
96. Well..
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

if you have a problem with what Senator Sanders said which required a lot of reading into and/or interpreting what he said (aka spinning & smearing) vs. this, which is an outright offensive term directed at a prominent WOC.. then it is obvious you have an agenda and care little about "racial sensitivities"

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
98. I'm "racially sensitive" enough to know that black women aren't delicate snowflakes
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:28 PM
Apr 2018

who can never be criticized.

I'm also woke enough to know that one of the fundamental elements of tokenism is the hope that the token's black skin will stave off or blunt any valid criticism of the token or the cause she represents.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
115. What I don't understand is,
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:29 AM
Apr 2018

if your gonna chose to be a token.. why take the difficult route to tokenism?? Why stand on principles?? Why not go on bended knee to TPTB?? Isn't that the whole point?? I mean, if your criticism is that she doesn't represent what she believes, that she is just using her "black skin" to advance herself it makes little sense to go the untraditional route and support the so called "outsider".. a bit of a contradiction.

& no she is no "snowflake"..



 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
118. I think she DID take the easy route.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:12 AM
Apr 2018

That’s why I have so little respect for her.

But obviously, you like and respect her, and I’m not gong to change your mind nor you mine, so it is what it is.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
132. Fortunately most people figured it out by now. I am still concerned about millions of new voters
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 07:24 PM
Apr 2018

who believe perfect candidates exist and when they dont, they are not to vote.

scary

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
81. I think being helpful to the Democratic party is not her priority
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:40 PM
Apr 2018

She strikes me as someone who believes speaking her interpretation of the truth to be paramount regardless of who could be damaged.

Cha

(297,975 posts)
94. It's not that she's hurting the Democratic Party..
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:54 AM
Apr 2018

We're strong and have wonderful leaders on the front lines fighting for us.

She's her own worst enemy.. she's useful to trump and the corporate media.




Me.

(35,454 posts)
101. "faux-prog frauds"
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 03:29 PM
Apr 2018

is it exactly. I can't believe I used to root for this woman when she ran for SOS. But now... self-serving, duplicitous, greedy, grasping and a disgrace IMO. How could she, for a second, consider backing a Con?

Cha

(297,975 posts)
104. I never knew of her until
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:50 PM
Apr 2018

I started reading all the crap she was spewing about President Obama and of course Hillary.



Nina Turner is trump's useful tool

Cha

(297,975 posts)
108. Whatever happened I hope she realizes what she said
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:24 PM
Apr 2018

on tv yesterday wasn't very bright. A lot of people were offended.




Me

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
86. She is one of the people whose appearance on any TV program guarantees
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:13 PM
Apr 2018

a channel change. Why would anyone voluntarily listen to her nonsense?

 

BlueDestiny

(25 posts)
100. Nina is great and I deeply admire her
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:54 PM
Apr 2018

As a WOC myself, Nina speaks for me and millions of others. For too long we haven't had a voice that spoke for us and told it as it is. Finally we do. I understand that may scare some people and it should.



Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
107. I remember Nina when she was just a solid outspoken politician from Ohio.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:22 PM
Apr 2018

She was outspoken against what Republicans were doing in her state and in Wisconsin. It is sad to see how far she has gone into the dark underbelly with her constant criticism of the Democratic Party. I am not saying that criticizing the party is always wrong, but she seems to spend much much more energy doing that than attacking the actual party that is ruining the US.

still_one

(92,494 posts)
127. This is why we should NEVER FORGET those so-called self-identified progressives who refused to vote
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:48 AM
Apr 2018

for the Democratic nominee, and did everything to undermine the Democratic nominee.

They can go to hell as far as I am concerned, and when 2020 rolls around I will do my part to insure that the Democratic nominate a Democrat, and not someone who only becomes a Democrat to satisfy their political ambitions.

I really have had it with their purist bullshit.

It is way past time for the Democrats to get rid of Open Primaries, and unDemocratic caucuses. I do NOT want non-Democrats determining who will be the Democratic nominee, which is what Open Primaries do.

For the who are unaware of Dan Lipinski, he was the extrememly conservative Illinois Democrat who won the primary against the progressive Democrat, and the main reason for that was because of their Open Primary, and republicans crossing over to insure the conservative Democrat would win the Democratic nomination.


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