After Trump is ultimately arrested, tried, convicted, & imprisoned for his crimes against America

[mtnsnake]

I think it's important that this happens after Democrats win in 2020. Among many other reasons why we need to hang onto the presidency for as long as we can from 2020 onward, I also think it's just as important that we hang onto that office for at least the next several terms so no future GOP corrupt president can pardon him as he rots away in jail for the rest of his life.

Questions:

If Disgusting Donald gets imprisoned BEFORE his term is up, can he pardon himself?

If he gets impeached and imprisoned before the 2020 election, and if the just-as-corrupt Pence replaces him, can Pence pardon him for crimes against America?

[northoftheborder]

1. good question.

[CentralMass]

2. I'm doubtful that he will be arrested, convicted, imprisoned, or impeached.

[KPN]

10. Ditto. Hell, he's got 40-42% approval

rating. We need to focus public attention on income inequality, the ongoing war against the poor, etc., to beat him and the GOP. Kicking and screaming about how awful this despicable person is will not get us where we really need to go.

[Nay]

20. Same here. A lot of well-placed and rich folks have to want him in jail, and I don't

think the numbers are out there.

IOW, it doesn't matter what WE want at all, or what the law says.

[SoCalMusicLover]

3. Sorry

Is this going to happen before or after Shrub, Cheney & Rove get thrown in jail?

Well, at least we got Scooter Libby.

Wait....

[jalan48]

4. I don't think he will ever be imprisoned. "For the good of the country" will emerge and be

accepted by the majority of politicians, including Democrats. Disgrace will be considered enough of a penalty and underlings like Cohen will get some jail time to make it appear justice was served.

[mtnsnake]

11. I disagree. Plus, we need to think positive about him going to jail for what he's done.

What he's done is unprecedented by any other president, even the previous GOP assholes before him.

Impeachment or losing in 2020 won't be good enough. He needs to go to jail, and he will. We just need to make sure we win in all important future elections.

[jalan48]

12. I wish you were right but I don't see it happening. Politicians don't want to set a precedent of

jailing Presidents. The Fascists will regain control again one day and will be licking their lips at the opportunity for payback. Unfortunately for us, they will jail opponents regardless of precedent.

[Motley13]

14. he will resign like Nixon & Pence will pardon him

[jalan48]

15. Probably, so the country can "start the process of healing". The media will push this narrative and

we will move on until it happens again.

[JenniferJuniper]

5. I think "removed from office" is

the best we're going to do here.

[hlthe2b]

6. while there is debate whether he can be INDICTED in office, I think there is consensus he CAN NOT BE

TRIED/PROSECUTED for crimes in office UNTIL and IN THE EVENT that he is successfully impeached based on that evidence by the House and subsequently voted to be removed by a 2/3 majority of the Senate--OR after his term in office. At that point, NO he can NOT pardon himself, but Pence COULD. See Nixon and Gerald Ford...


That said, Pence can ONLY pardon FEDERAL crimes--not STATE

[Lil Missy]

7. He'll never serve time; he'll be pardoned by Pence.

[RainCaster]

8. Can treason be a state crime?

Really, everything he's done comes down to treason. That is what history should record. For him and all the GOP.

[Voltaire2]

17. It can be but there would have to be an actual armed insurrection against the state.

That would be a pretty hard sell.

[shockey80]

9. Trump cannot be pardoned for state crimes.

Trump is in big fucking trouble. If Trump is removed from office, which must happen. Pence can pardon him at the federal level. New York State can bring serious charges against Trump that cannot be pardoned. Bank fraud, tax fraud etc.

[Cirque du So-What]

13. I appreciate your enthusiasm

but, like others, I have strong doubts that this scenario will ever come to pass. Still, I have hope that some crimes, so egregious they cannot be ignored by the courts, come to light.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

16. Not gonna happen.

We may well be stuck with him at least until January 20, 2021.

[Codeine]

18. Nonsense of those things are ever going to occur.

The tendency for people here to live in Cloudcookooland is a little sad.

[mtnsnake]

19. No. What's really sad

is to live in Cloudrolloverandgiveupland.

[Codeine]

21. Yes, because whats going to stop it

is a lack of Positive Thinking on DU.

There aren’t enough in the world for your silliness. We’re going to vote the fucker out in a couple years and spend decades making sure that nobody ever forgets the scale of the disaster that will be his legacy.

[mtnsnake]

22. When we vote him out

it won't be because of bitter sounding folks who are all too quick to quell the positive thinkers with negative thoughts that ooze from them like the stale hissing air from a leaky old tire. Disgusting Donald will be voted out by optimistic people who actually DO something because they believe it will happen.