Trump is the most conniving son of a bitch I have ever seen.

[shockey80]

When he pardoned Libby that was another act of obstruction of justice. He thinks we are all stupid. I can't wait till Trump and all these assholes are taken down. I have lost all patience and my anger has reached a boiling point. Trump voters can kiss my fucking ass.

Excuse me for venting but I have a good reason to be so angry. This is no longer about will Trump be removed, this is about he must be removed.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. "Conniving" implies some sort of strategic thinking, but Trump is just reactive.

Pardoning Libby was nothing more than a reaction. Apparently Libby's family and old colleagues had been lobbying for a pardon for a long time, and Trump decided that giving it to him would be a big old "fuck you" to the FBI and the special prosecutor - telling them that lying to investigators and obstructing justice weren't real crimes and that he can pardon anybody he wants.

He'll get his comeuppance. I'm finally beginning to believe that.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. I don't believe Cheeto Benito came up with the idea to pardon Scoots

Someone (Bolton, cough, cough) whispered it in his ear, I'm sure. I bet the orange menace had to be told who Scooter Libby is. Not only does serve as a message to Robert Mueller's team, it's a big ol' reach-around to the neocons.

[Dave Starsky]

6. I'm pretty sure Trump thought Scooter Libby...

Is the guy who invented fruit cocktail.

[Blue_true]

2. Conmen and conwomen are conniving by definition. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. "Con man" is short for "confidence man," not conniver.

A confidence trick is an attempt to defraud someone after first gaining their confidence; con man is just another word for grifter. And Trump is certainly that. His "conniving" is nothing more than the low cunning required to accomplish a fraud. But he's not a strategic thinker.

[shockey80]

5. MSNBC showed a video of Trump being asked about Libby in 2015.

Trump did not want to talk about it. He said it was irrelevant.

Now , right after his lawyers home and office are raided trump pardons Libby. Give me a break. My momma did not raise no fool. Trump is telling his lawyer I got you covered.