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catbyte

(34,535 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:48 PM Apr 2018

The two men who were arrest for Waiting While Black in Philly Starbucks have been released.

Infuckingbelievable. Starbucks has some explaining to do, and their wishy-washy "statement" just doesn't cut it. And now the customer who filmed the incident is getting shit from white people, asking if "she's proud" for shaming people. WTF?!?









https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/04/14/philadelphia-starbucks-arrest-video/

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The two men who were arrest for Waiting While Black in Philly Starbucks have been released. (Original Post) catbyte Apr 2018 OP
Protest outside the store oberliner Apr 2018 #1
That looks like a good protest to me! BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #3
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #6
Martin Schultz should have been on the first plane to Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #2
I see money in those men's futures. WhiteTara Apr 2018 #4
I'm sorry, but especially to hell with the black cop! Anon-C Apr 2018 #5
IKR ?! Did they even tell them why they were being arrested ?! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #7
Trespassing oberliner Apr 2018 #8
Right on, Ms. DePino. MariaCSR Apr 2018 #9
Seriously, what else can Starbucks Corporate do until they get the facts? Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #10
why would 'corporate policy be fine on this matter?' bigtree Apr 2018 #11
"Seriously, what else can Starbucks Corporate do" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #12
paper apology isn't enough bigtree Apr 2018 #13

BigmanPigman

(51,651 posts)
3. That looks like a good protest to me!
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:39 PM
Apr 2018

They should be holding coffee cups from Wawa or the 7/11 though. I am with them in sprirt (and have boycotted Starbucks since 1998 for a diff reason).

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Martin Schultz should have been on the first plane to
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:37 PM
Apr 2018

Philly. If he wants his business to survive after this one,he has to get off his butt and address those effected or tear up his companies policy manual.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
5. I'm sorry, but especially to hell with the black cop!
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 10:23 PM
Apr 2018

You got your paycheck so you're good, right bruh?

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
10. Seriously, what else can Starbucks Corporate do until they get the facts?
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 07:51 AM
Apr 2018

This is clearly something that happened because of an individual manager. They have to get the information from them and the cops. A company won't put out any more detailed statement until they get their understanding on the matter. Why is that so hard for people to understand? They can't promise to change anything (if anything needs to be changed as I'm pretty sure corporate policy is fine on this matter in that people can hang around all the time without being a bother) until they know EXACTLY what happened.

Like most matters in life, and in situations like these, it's an ass of a boss/shift manager with too much power run amuck letting their racism loose.

bigtree

(86,016 posts)
11. why would 'corporate policy be fine on this matter?'
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:23 AM
Apr 2018

...clearly the company has some work to do in communicating what you think is an aberration.

Give this a few days or weeks before excusing the corporate policy and how they communicate that to their employees. There's obviously something wrong with this branch, and it's not clear yet if this is a widespread problem of harassing black customers.

I think assuming this is an isolated incident doesn't account for the continuing history of widespread, disparate treatment of black customers vs. others in this nation. We should start from that assumption, not from assuming that everything must be equal and fine because there's a policy written down somewhere.

BumRushDaShow

(129,970 posts)
12. "Seriously, what else can Starbucks Corporate do"
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:26 AM
Apr 2018

Required diversity training for anyone who owns and is assigned as a manager of any of their chain stores. If they don't want to take it, then they will no longer be an owner authorized for a franchise under that corporate name nor will they be permitted as a managing employee.

What does "diversity training" do? It often shows how unconscious distorted "perceptions" may actually be a result of learned harmful stereotyping of others. The sessions may include role-playing exercises to help the trainee to get rid of those scotomas (blind spots) they may have, that evolved over the years.

It may not get through to "all", but if you can positively impact a few with such training (including some who are posting in this thread and other threads who are apparently in need), then we can continue to move on as a society that promotes "equality".

bigtree

(86,016 posts)
13. paper apology isn't enough
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:29 AM
Apr 2018

...they need to establish clearly that this isn't happening in other locations.

Even if they assume it's an aberration, they still need to take proactive steps to ensure it is as rare as I'm sure they hope it turns out to be.




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