Expect More Presidents Who Dont Win Popular Vote

[RandySF]

Dan Balz: “The authors ran a series of simulations for elections between 2020 and 2036, using different assumptions about the shape of the electorate, while also trying to estimate how tweaks or shifts in levels of support for Republican or Democratic candidates would affect the popular vote in the states and, therefore, the electoral college and the national totals.”

“One conclusion is that the country should be braced for repeats of what has happened twice in the past five presidential campaigns — a popular-vote outcome different from the electoral college result. ‘This report finds quite a few future scenarios could mimic the result of the 2016 election — a Democratic in the popular vote with a Republican win in the electoral college,’ the authors write.”



https://politicalwire.com/2018/04/14/expect-more-presidents-who-dont-win-popular-vote/

[msongs]

1. if we could get a million dems out of cities and into ND, SD, WY etc we could win em all nt

[BigmanPigman]

2. We need to change the electoral college.

[Exotica]

6. A constitutional amendment will never happen, but increase the

House size to anything over 1000 (odd numbers so no ties) and then the electoral college will be much more equally distributed, as will voting power in the House. That only takes an Act of Congress. Last time it was increased was 1913, when the country only had around 80 million citizens, so it is far overdue.

[BigmanPigman]

7. I never thought of that but I also didn't even know that.

What is their problem, are they afraid of building a bigger room with more desks? Come on, no changes in 100+ years. WOW!

[Exotica]

11. It is by far the best realistic way to fix it, and it sorts the current unfairness

in the House too. Multiple nations, some much smaller than us, have larger bodies. The UK House of Commons for instance. Our number of people represented per House member is ridiculously high atm.

[Pope George Ringo II]

12. Possibly more realistic

But I'd quibble over "far". If we can get enough states to pass laws that their electoral votes go to the winner of the national popular vote, that would sort it out too. I'd actually suggest that getting individual states totaling 270 electoral votes to do this might be easier than getting Congress to play nice.

I admit that would still leave us with some problems with the legislative branch though.

[Angry Dragon]

3. KICK

[oberliner]

4. Democrats will always win the popular vote - but that vote is concentrated in big cities

So it won't help us that much in terms of the EC.

[quartz007]

5. Blame the constitution!

Small population states have dis-proportional power in Senate.
Why can't there be another amendment passed?

[Dawson Leery]

8. Defacto Apartheid by the Electoral College and Senate.

Just as the slaveholders wanted.

[meadowlark5]

9. And until we get rid of the electoral college, no viable 3rd party candidate will ever win

I suppose the 2 parties prefer it that way, but people keep asking for a 3rd party viable option and there is no way with the electoral college that will happen. I mean it could but I highly doubt it ever will.

[DFW]

10. Two out of the last three got in that way

So this is not a future danger, but rather a trend to reverse.