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(6,288 posts)Happy yet?
Apologies anyone?
C h.i.r.p.
They went to JPR and who knows where else.
I supported Bernie during the primaries.
My thought was he was less hawkish than her.
As soon as she won the primary I turned my head around (admittedly with the help of others) and got behind her as our candidate.
I was never going to support Dump and always saw him as a clear and present danger.
I did venture over to JPR and was horrified with what I saw.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)subjects. I also remember that many said they were voting 3rd party or not at all.
How is that working out for you who claimed harsh talking points from "fake news" and Russia.
mcar
(42,443 posts)But we've got to reach out to them so they will deign to vote Democratic.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)Dear god he is a child
HRC may well have done something similar, but the world would know her reasons were serious and not to distract from being a traitor, like rump
dalton99a
(81,683 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)an opportunity to flaunt it's bloated budget and make other countries envious of its ostentatious proportions?
Counting the days until Trump shows up in his new bespoke military costume, resplendent with gold braid, piping and bullion trims, with a satin sash stretched over his paunch. He design the outfit himself, so I'd be disappointed not to see him all beribboned and bedecked with ornate medals and lots of flashy bejeweled bling and flair, commemorative pins, patches and buttons.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)to say how strong she was. Just like when Obama did the same thing.
Wrong is wrong. D or R, doesn't matter when the missiles are flying.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)philly_bob
(2,419 posts)historians can sort out HRC's attitude to military strikes vs. DT's attitude. (Hint: DT's inconsistent, all over the place, ranting.)
During HRC's time in government, I recall that she was allied with those who called for regime change in Syria as a national foreign policy goal, which, to me, is the Original Sin of U.S. Syria policy.
Whatever, I sure wish HRC was president today.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)From Vox, [link:https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/16/17242296/us-bombing-syria-trump-bolton|
[Syria] is increasingly an Iranian satellite under Tehrans growing regional influence, Bolton wrote in a 2012 National Review article, near the beginning of the civil war. Accordingly, regime change in Syria is prima facie in Americas interest.
Bolton uses "prima facie" from law here. It means "based on the first impression; accepted as correct until proved otherwise."
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)From think-tank Brookings:
[link:http://www.brookings.edu/research/saving-syria-assessing-options-for-regime-change/|
These are neo-cons, well-known for encouraging the U.S. to intervene in the Middle East, usually in a way that would benefit Israel.
Did Clinton herself support regime change in Iraq? The Google record is unclear, except an article in Foreign Policy magazine that said: "Syria: In 2012, she [Clinton] reportedly proposed to the White House along with CIA Director David Petraeus a covert program (apparently larger than the one later authorized) to provide arms to vetted Syrian rebel groups fighting Bashar al-Assads government. " [Obama vetoed it.]
This is not definitive proof. She was nowhere near as warlike as Bolton.