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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo matter who was/is President of U.S, a very strong response was necessary
Poison Gas has been outlawed in war many years. It's use in World War I, was horrific. Using it now is insane. Bashar al-Assad used poison gas on his own people and no matter who is President of the United States, a strong response was necessary. Therefore, if Hillary was President a strong response was necessary. If Obama was President a strong response was necessary. If Biden was President a strong response was necessary.
I hate the current President. Nevertheless, this action yesterday was made with Britain and France. Those two countries also participated in World War I, and had countless lives taken from poison gas. I believe yesterday's response was correct. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Yesterday's action was a strong response to the use of poison gas. Someone had to say it, so it has been said.
(There are many books available to read about the use of poison gas in World War I. Someone here can recommend some. Thanks to those who respond with names of books and sources on poison gas in war. )
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I do also believe that this latest round was bungled by Mr Trump. The strike was too well telegraphed and should have happened much more quickly.
Stuart G
(38,455 posts)Yes, the strike was "telegraphed." It was obvious that there was going to be a response. Still your first sentence is truth..I agree that the use is of chemical weapons is and must be unacceptable Thank you for saying this.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Yes, Mr. Trump should have consulted with Congress or at the very least Congressional leadership and hopefully that was the case.
As to the use of these chemical agents, there is I believe a line that must not be crossed. This was agreed to almost a century ago by nations and had been pretty well followed (not perfectly to be sure) for the most part as the world and its occupants are not perfect.
The retaliatory strikes are likewise not a perfect answer, but one has to ask what else can or should be done?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Whats the game plan? We have left a void there for a year. In that time they have acquired military equipment and strengthened relationships with a couple of allies.
I fully agree with your general thought. Still, cowboy diplomacy will go down as the greatest failure of the generation currently making its way out the door(last of the generation is holding power now).
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,113 posts)rgbecker
(4,835 posts)Several hundred million dollars worth of missiles, for what? The Russian backed Assad will continue to put down the rebels however necessary, just as your local police with the help of the National Guard and US Army would put down any uprising right here in the United States. As we spread land mines all across the world, so others will use outrageously inhumane methods.
Unless we are willing to take on the Russians, Iran and run their countries like Hitler did in Poland, France etc. why bother with the show.
Stuart G
(38,455 posts)I wanted to express my opinion here in this forum. After all, this is a General Discussion (Forum) ... I hope the discussion stays civil and reasonable. Thank you for your point of view.
atreides1
(16,103 posts)ABSORBED THE STRIKE
But the Western powers were at pains to avert any further escalation, including any unexpected conflict with their superpower rival. French Defense Minister Florence Parly said the Russians were warned beforehand to avert conflict.
A senior official in a regional alliance that backs Damascus told Reuters the Syrian government and its allies had absorbed the attack. The sites that were targeted had been evacuated days ago thanks to a warning from Russia, the official said.
If it is finished, and there is no second round, it will be considered limited, the official said.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Some form of pois*ning was pretty much always at the top of my personal list.
Conversely, I really can't recall a single time when I thought 'you know, dropping a b**b on myself ... that really sounds preferable!' ... call me crazy. I probably am, after all.
BTW, how is it we execute people on death row 'humanely'? Was it explos**ns? Or Pois*ns? Refresh my memory?
Then again, missiles and b**bs involve some tidy corporate profits for shareholders and execs at defense contracting companies ... as opposed to chems which involve a few hundred bucks worth of materials to accomplish the same task that otherwise requires millions of tax $$$ to do 'conventionally' ...
Problem is likely just that my priorities are all screwed up ...
malaise
(269,263 posts)malaise
(269,263 posts)and then we have Japan. Apparently laws and rules only apply to some folks.
Voltaire2
(13,246 posts)We have refused to sign numerous treaties restricting various types of weapons and we are not part of the ICC. We are engaged in a brutal war in Yemen that has killed tens of thousands of civilians.
Vinca
(50,323 posts)Dead is dead whether it's by nerve gas or bomb. Most of the time the world turns a blind eye.
FYI - 4,024 gun deaths in the U.S. in 2018 so far. (82 Syrian nerve agent attacks.)
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
Stuart G
(38,455 posts)....No matter how, why, when or where.........dead is still dead.
walkingman
(7,688 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Assad moved things out of the way with the multi-days notice he got about these strikes and help from Russia. This was a $224 million fireworks show that knocked Trump's scandals out of the news.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)is not an attack. Trump could care less about Syrian people, don't forget they didn't my any Syrian refugees. It's a distraction.
Norbert
(6,043 posts)-Stormy wants her story out
-Mueller gathering even more information
-Comey on prime time Sunday
-Sordid Cohen stories coming to light
This is simple a Wag the Dog response. trump don't give a shit about the people in Syria. Had the above not been out there the bombbing would have never happened.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)It should be left up to the United Nations. If the US or some other country vetoes an action let the countries who support it make a coalition and do what is needed.
KG
(28,753 posts)the collaterals. seems nothing is ever learned.
Stuart G
(38,455 posts)Whether a response involves killing people is not up to me. Bashar al-Assad is a killer and has killed many people. His own people.. Stopping someone like that is extremely difficult. No, I don't know what the answer is...I do think some kind of response was necessary.