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Any idea why Germany is not involved in this? (Original Post) dflprincess Apr 2018 OP
Germany doesn't do wag the dog strikes underthematrix Apr 2018 #1
They are smarter RainCaster Apr 2018 #2
That was my guess as well dflprincess Apr 2018 #3
And do you think Macron and May really like and support RUMP? Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #8
They usually prefer to stay out of such things. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #4
I can always count on you to give a thorough, reasonable answer. dflprincess Apr 2018 #6
Thanks! The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #9
Thank you. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #11
Thank you, The Velveteen Ocelot... Upthevibe Apr 2018 #16
no bundeswehr lunasun Apr 2018 #5
Germany won't take part in possible Syria military strike. elleng Apr 2018 #7
No one person can declare war against another country in Germany...imperialistic and nuclear armed Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #12
From yesterday (April 12):Germany will not take part in possible - military action, Merkel said... PoliticAverse Apr 2018 #10
It is sometimes about available forces GulfCoast66 Apr 2018 #13
Back in the day ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #14
Yea....Germany and military action didn't go well for Upthevibe Apr 2018 #18
You can say the same for us too. cwydro Apr 2018 #19
I was wondering exactly the same thing...n/t Upthevibe Apr 2018 #15
their history JI7 Apr 2018 #17

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,968 posts)
4. They usually prefer to stay out of such things.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:37 PM
Apr 2018
Post-World War II Germany typically has been reluctant to engage in military action, and parliamentary approval is required for any military missions abroad. The country often has restricted itself to supporting roles, such as the participation of a German refueling plane and Jordan-based reconnaissance jets in the current international campaign against the Islamic State group.

“I think it is important to have a common line, without Germany participating militarily,” Merkel said. “If the permanent representatives in the (U.N.) Security Council were to initiate steps ... going beyond the diplomatic dimension, then we will be supportive.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-wont-take-part-in-possible-syria-military-strike/2018/04/12/54f7ff3a-3e56-11e8-955b-7d2e19b79966_story.html?utm_term=.e7c0fc8b94e6

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
5. no bundeswehr
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:39 PM
Apr 2018

Fears tend to be greatest in Germany when the US gets active militarily. In 2002, then-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder of the SPD won a surprising re-election victory despite the fact that his party's coalition with the Greens was hopelessly unpopular among voters.
The reason: Schröder clearly stated that he would not allow German soldiers to participate in then-US President George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. That stance struck a chord with German voters.

http://www.dw.com/en/germanys-military-reluctance-rooted-in-history/a-43366599
The leader of the opposition conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) at the time happened to be Angela Merkel. She had actively called for German support for the American military operation, a position that proved unpopular with the country's electorate.
The politically astute chancellor seems unlikely to make that mistake again.

Almost all of Germany's political parties have foreign policy and security experts who call for more military engagement. They argue it is the only way Germany can truly play a role in solving the world's problems. Nevertheless, they tend to be in the minority with such views. A recent survey shows that roughly 60 percent of Germans are against foreign deployments of the Bundeswehr.

elleng

(131,338 posts)
7. Germany won't take part in possible Syria military strike.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:43 PM
Apr 2018

BERLIN (AP) -- Germany won't participate in possible military action in Syria, but supports sending a message that the use of chemical weapons is unacceptable, Chancellor Angela Merkel said Thursday.

Merkel stressed the importance of a united position in response to an alleged attack in Douma that the West is blaming on Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces.

"Germany will not take part in possible military action -- I want to make clear again that there are no decisions -- but we see, and support this, that everything is being done to send a signal that this use of chemical weapons is not acceptable," Merkel told reporters in Berlin after meeting Denmark's prime minister.

The German leader said she spoke Thursday with French President Emmanuel Macron, who has been talking regularly this week with U.S. President Donald Trump about the most effective response to the alleged chlorine gas attack.

Post-World War II Germany typically has been reluctant to engage in military action, and parliamentary approval is required for any military missions abroad. The country often has restricted itself to supporting roles, such as the participation of a German refueling plane and Jordan-based reconnaissance jets in the current international campaign against the Islamic State group.'>>>

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20180413/p2g/00m/0in/027000c

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. No one person can declare war against another country in Germany...imperialistic and nuclear armed
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:02 PM
Apr 2018

France, Britain and US need to show the world who is boss from time to time...mowing the graaa periodically does the trick.

And if it is "suspected" the Syrian government is involved...apparently suspicion is enough to bomb another country.
Remember when Iraq was suspected of developing nuclear weapons...enough to launch a massive war...but when the evidence was collected....ooops...no evidence.

Who the fuck needs evidence, the obscenly expensive and economy draining war machines are getting rusty.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. From yesterday (April 12):Germany will not take part in possible - military action, Merkel said...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:46 PM
Apr 2018

"Germany will not take part in possible - there have not been any decisions yet, I want to stress that - military action," Merkel said after meeting Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen in Berlin.

"But we support everything that is being done to show that the use of chemical weapons is not acceptable," she added.

In Dublin, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said Germany expects to be consulted before any Western allies conduct an attack on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces as the allies must be united on the matter.

Earlier, Merkel spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron about the suspected gas attack and expressed her concern that the international community's ability to ban chemical weapons was eroding, her spokesman said.

Read the rest at: http://news.trust.org//item/20180412134645-6oh9s/

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. It is sometimes about available forces
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:12 PM
Apr 2018

Germany is not really a military player and he’s not been since the end of WWII. Certainly not outside their own borders.

France and Britain have available and highly trained forces already active in the area.

I do not think reacting to the use of chemical weapons on civilians is a partisan issue.

I get the argument that they have been killing civilians with all other possible means, and dead is dead. But chemical weapons are just unacceptable.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. You can say the same for us too.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:21 AM
Apr 2018

The US and military action hasn’t worked out so well on more than a few occasions.

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