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What was the legal justification for these strikes? (Original Post) SHRED Apr 2018 OP
Article 2 of the United States Constitution is the section that makes the executive branch elleng Apr 2018 #1
Like so much else, Trump is breaking the law again. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #2
The aumf from 9/11 that pretty much gives potus war powers anywhere. unblock Apr 2018 #3
I'm not convinced. TomSlick Apr 2018 #9
I'm not convinced either unblock Apr 2018 #11
Not according to several members of Congress today. OliverQ Apr 2018 #10
I agree. See post #11 unblock Apr 2018 #13
America is the self appointed judge, jury and executioner, joined in by nuclear Western powers who Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #4
It's illegal under international law. But they don't give a shit leftstreet Apr 2018 #5
I believe they invoked the well-known "ass in a jam lookee over there let's kill some folks" Atticus Apr 2018 #6
There is none. Where are the republicans threatening impeachment like they did to President Obama? onecaliberal Apr 2018 #7
Comey, Mueller, Rosenstein, Wray....etc. etc. spanone Apr 2018 #8
Profit for military contractors? Initech Apr 2018 #12
It's against international law to kill innocent men women and children FarCenter Apr 2018 #14
Its against international law to invade another sovereign nation BBG Apr 2018 #15
Trump is nice enough to give us a new justification for impeaching him. Kablooie Apr 2018 #16
None. Ghost Dog Apr 2018 #17
You forgot! America is judge and jury to world affairs, but akbacchus_BC Apr 2018 #18

elleng

(131,320 posts)
1. Article 2 of the United States Constitution is the section that makes the executive branch
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:27 PM
Apr 2018

of the government. The Executive branch of the government is the branch that has the responsibility and authority for the administration throughout the day of the state.

We'll likely hear more on this.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Like so much else, Trump is breaking the law again.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:33 PM
Apr 2018

Congress has to approve acts of war.
Which they could do, being Repub. majority. But they have not.

TomSlick

(11,127 posts)
9. I'm not convinced.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:52 PM
Apr 2018

The AUMF was originally aimed at Al-Qaeda. It has been expansively interpreted to include any terrorist organization, e.g. Isis. I can't read the AUMF to include an attack on a government - no matter how evil. There is no immediate security threat to justify an immediate military attack. If, as Trump suggested, this is the beginning of a sustained action, it is hard to justify not obtaining Congressional authority for the attack.

If Congress does not act, it will have lost any power it has to authorize military force.

unblock

(52,481 posts)
11. I'm not convinced either
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:54 PM
Apr 2018

In fact I've always felt the aumf was unconstitutionally broad and unconstitutionally open-ended.

I also agree that it's hard to justify attacking government assets under a terrorism authorization.

Just saying that will be the rationale and the republican congress will roll over.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
10. Not according to several members of Congress today.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:54 PM
Apr 2018

It applies to terrorism pending from 9/11. It's not a blanket authorization on all acts of war. Attacking the Assad regime over the use of chemical weapons has nothing to do with ISIS/Al-Qaeda or 9/11. It's illegal for him to do this strike.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. America is the self appointed judge, jury and executioner, joined in by nuclear Western powers who
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:41 PM
Apr 2018

need to periodically tell others that they can strike with impunity...justification and "evidence" is not need for rich white countries.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
6. I believe they invoked the well-known "ass in a jam lookee over there let's kill some folks"
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:41 PM
Apr 2018

exception to the War Powers Act.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. It's against international law to kill innocent men women and children
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:11 PM
Apr 2018

Although we don't seem to have a problem with that in Yemen.

BBG

(2,563 posts)
15. Its against international law to invade another sovereign nation
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:51 PM
Apr 2018

Although we didn’t seem to have a problem with that in Iraq.

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
16. Trump is nice enough to give us a new justification for impeaching him.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:59 AM
Apr 2018

He's very thoughtful that way.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
17. None.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:26 AM
Apr 2018

“There’s an obligation, particularly when dealing with matters of peace and security, to act consistently with the Charter of the United Nations and with international law in general. The UN Charter is very clear on these issues,” (United Nations Secretary-General) Mr Guterres said in a statement issued by his spokesperson.

“The Security Council has primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. I call on the members of the Security Council to unite and exercise that responsibility. I urge all Member States to show restraint in these dangerous circumstances and to avoid any acts that could escalate the situation and worsen the suffering of the Syrian people.”

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/04/1007331

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
18. You forgot! America is judge and jury to world affairs, but
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:53 AM
Apr 2018

refuses to take care of its citizens and veterans who served. That cretin in the White House is an abomination to America.

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