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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Drumpt was President and Twitter existed April 18, 1942
Japan. We have very secret plans. We are launching bombers from an aircraft carrier. Thought it couldn't be done. Drumpt made it happen. On the way now led by brave Doolittle. You're not prepared for my genius. Sad!
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If Drumpt was President and Twitter existed April 18, 1942 (Original Post)
kairos12
Apr 2018
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dsc
(52,172 posts)1. actually I think Japan knew that was coming
the nuke bombs on the other hand.
Aristus
(66,509 posts)2. The Doolittle Raid was forced to launch early when the naval task force was spotted
by a Japanese ship. But I don't remember if the spotter reported the task force, or if it had a measurable effect on the mission.
thucythucy
(8,109 posts)3. I seem to recall reading that the Japanese ship
was sunk before it could get a message off, but the American commanders couldn't be sure, so they launched early.
Wounded Bear
(58,765 posts)4. IIRC, they determined that the ship had gotten a message off...
but they sank it before it could send out a verifying transmission.
My history is a little hazy on that one, though. There are a lot of myths floating around re: WWII.
Aristus
(66,509 posts)5. Thank you.
csziggy
(34,139 posts)6. From the "Official Website of the Doolittle Raiders"
At 0715 (7:15am), a search plane from the Enterprise reported sighting enemy patrol vessel. Later developments indicated this vessel made original contact report to Japan. At 0744 (7:44am) this vessel was sighted by the task force bearing 221 degrees at a distance of 10,000 yards. The cruiser Nashville was ordered to sink this vessel by gunfire.
The carriers turned to a course of 320 degrees true which was into the wind and commenced launching the bombers. The first bomber was launched at 0820 (8:20am) and the last at 0919 (9:19am). The average interval for the bomber take offs was 3.9 minutes. At 0927 (9:27am) the task force commenced retirement on a course of 90 degrees true and a speed of 25 knots.
During retirement an enemy patrol vessel was picked up by the radar at 1214 (12:14pm) at a distance of 64,000 yards, but passed off the screen before contact was made. At 1400 (2:00pm) two enemy patrol vessels were attacked by Enterprise planes. One was sunk and one was damaged. At 1413 (2:13pm), one was still afloat and the Nashville was ordered to attack. The patrol vessel broke out a white flag and five prisoners were taken, then the vessel was sunk by gunfire. These were apparently the ones that were first sighted by radar earlier in the morning. During these operations one naval plane, apparently damaged by AA fire from the patrol vessels during the attack, landed in the water due to engine failure. The crew of this plane was recovered without injury.
No further contacts were made during the return trip to Pearl harbor. Another patrol plane was lost during patrol operations enroute. Both plane and crew were lost.
After the war with Japan was over, records revealed the message sent by the patrol boat that forced the early take off, had been received and confirmation requested. By the time confirmation was requested, the patrol boat had been sunk. The Japanese government, therefore, chose to ignore the message until the bombs started hitting their targets. By that time it was too late.
http://www.doolittleraider.com/first_joint_action.htm#_Toc510516196
The carriers turned to a course of 320 degrees true which was into the wind and commenced launching the bombers. The first bomber was launched at 0820 (8:20am) and the last at 0919 (9:19am). The average interval for the bomber take offs was 3.9 minutes. At 0927 (9:27am) the task force commenced retirement on a course of 90 degrees true and a speed of 25 knots.
During retirement an enemy patrol vessel was picked up by the radar at 1214 (12:14pm) at a distance of 64,000 yards, but passed off the screen before contact was made. At 1400 (2:00pm) two enemy patrol vessels were attacked by Enterprise planes. One was sunk and one was damaged. At 1413 (2:13pm), one was still afloat and the Nashville was ordered to attack. The patrol vessel broke out a white flag and five prisoners were taken, then the vessel was sunk by gunfire. These were apparently the ones that were first sighted by radar earlier in the morning. During these operations one naval plane, apparently damaged by AA fire from the patrol vessels during the attack, landed in the water due to engine failure. The crew of this plane was recovered without injury.
No further contacts were made during the return trip to Pearl harbor. Another patrol plane was lost during patrol operations enroute. Both plane and crew were lost.
After the war with Japan was over, records revealed the message sent by the patrol boat that forced the early take off, had been received and confirmation requested. By the time confirmation was requested, the patrol boat had been sunk. The Japanese government, therefore, chose to ignore the message until the bombs started hitting their targets. By that time it was too late.
http://www.doolittleraider.com/first_joint_action.htm#_Toc510516196
Aristus
(66,509 posts)7. Thank you.
thucythucy
(8,109 posts)9. Thank you for this information. nt
dsc
(52,172 posts)8. I guess that is what I was thinking of
I didn't realize that Japan may not have been told.