General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSanders: I will work against any VA nominee backing privatization
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday he will work against any Veterans Affairs nominee who supports privatizing the agency.
I will do everything I can as a member of the veterans committee not to approve any nominee who is not going to strengthen the VA and who will oppose privatization, Sanders told CNNs State of the Union.
The comments from Sanders come after Trump announced Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson, who currently serves as the presidential physician, would replace David Shulkin as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
Shulkin penned an op-ed in The New York Times opposing the privatization of the agency after his exit and saying there are officials within the administration pushing for it.
Sanders, a member of the Senate Veteran Affairs Committee, said veterans organizations argue the agency should be strengthened rather than privatized. He also blamed billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, arguing their influence over the Trump administration is whats pushing privatization.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/381158-sanders-i-will-work-against-any-va-nominee-backing-privatization
I don't always agree with Bernie Sanders but he's spot on in this case.
RandySF
(59,547 posts)What is someone lives a long distance from the nearest VA facility.
ornotna
(10,807 posts)Will privatizing it make it better?
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)The vet groups will fight this. I doubt it will happen.
leanforward
(1,077 posts)There is a mileage payment window at the VA hospital near me. Likewise, they have mobile clinics.
They also provide van transport in those cases where special medical service is required.
At every VA, there is an Advocate, have your vet talk with that Advocate. They will work with the Vet and his representative.
I'm against any privatization of the VA. I am for the use of the VA benefit at any local hospital/clinic/MD, where travel is a hardship on the Vet and caregivers.
The VA is for the benefit of the Vet, not for a profit making entity that siphons appropriated/tax money into someone's pocket.
democrank
(11,112 posts)I'm against privatization of the VA. Bernie Sanders is a solid advocate for veterans, going back a long way.
mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)Voltaire2
(13,234 posts)system and into profit for the health service industry improve the system for all of its users?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,350 posts)RandySF
(59,547 posts)Voltaire2
(13,234 posts)Im sure you didnt intend it this way, but a standard right wing talking point against social programs like the va is to use individual hardship anecdotes to obfuscate the collective benefit of the program.
RandySF
(59,547 posts)On any thread that involved Bernie. Everybody is in a righteous mood then.
Voltaire2
(13,234 posts)You used a standard talking point against public healthcare. When you got deservedly hammered for it, for apparently arguing for privatization as somehow delivering better service - you brought up Sanders. Nobody else did.
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)Democrats...the Vet groups will have to stop it, and all the major groups are against it.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)We're good. I rather go to my local VA, ten mins from my house. People who live in the middle of no where can pick a local doc for local medical stuff.
The system works fine, might take two weeks to get it for my annual. However, that is the same amount of time it takes on my husbands private insurance.
They just want to steal the funding, then cut it back.
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,572 posts)Veterans are treated more than shabbily already. To think someone wants to privatize the VA and turn the misery, broken bodies and shattered psyches of people that served their country into a profit center? It's despicable. It's a idea...no, I can't even give it the dignity of "idea"...it's an awful fever dream that should have been stillborn. Mixed metaphors or not.
RandySF
(59,547 posts)Would I have received such a hostile response if Bernie was the topic?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A couple of the replies were over the top, but a number of people that seem to have firsthand knowledge gave detailed responses that highlighted how the system currently works to deal with the problem you raised.
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)I hate war, but if we are stupid enough to have one...we owe those who fight them our gratitude and our support. The Republicans represent the rich who are never satisfied with any amount of money. The sooner we send the Republicans to the political wilderness the better...they have no legitimate policy ideas and busy enriching their own nests and care nothing for this country or the men and women who fight to protect it.
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)In those cases, per VA, you may be referred to a community provider through the Non-VA Medical Care program.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Hospitals of all types end up where most of the people in the region are. In big states like Florida, there are many VA and lots and lots of regular hospitals. I am ok with allowances, if a Vet lives too far from a VA hospital but close to a full service regular hospital, that Vet can apply for an allowance that allow him or her to get emergency medical at the regular hospital, but that happens even now, without an allowance. Planned surgery or long term medical care presents expense issues for a Vet's family, but my guess is those issues exist for regular hospitals, because, I repeat myself, hospitals are not built in the sticks where there are not many people, be they VA or regular hospitals.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)he was actually encouraging the idea of veterans getting the opportunity to attend non-VA medical facilities if it was logistically difficult or impossible to get to a VA hospital or clinic in a timely or regular manner.
leanforward
(1,077 posts)Granted, the Admiral may be a good guy.
Personally, the gentleman may be in over his head. He'll be fed a line of BS by the other political appointees.
It would be great if the gentleman withdraws his nomination and resign from the Navy in high moral standing.
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)will do a shitty job just like Trump.
Skittles
(153,254 posts)can we PLEASE stop with this "good guy" stuff
ProfessorGAC
(65,322 posts)Either he mismeasured his height, and went blind went reading the scale, or he fudged the numbers.
"It" is not that tall and weighs 239 pounds from the waist up.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Department of Veterans Affairs with the second largest budget and integrate it into the American Criminal Enterprise Healthcare System to rape even more wealth from our former American Democracy. I stand with Senator Sanders on this one!
mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Post Office, the military, etc, etc, etc.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)by the American Oligarchs and their Congressional henchmen and henchwomen!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,112 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The parts that don't get shutdown. AMTRACK is a perfect example. Private industry would love a DC to Boston, and will soon want an LA to San Fran line (cities in between are growing people, along the coast). But they will offload the rest to locals that will either shutdown or charge enormous fees to get someone to the East Nowhere stop in the middle of the sticks.
Demsrule86
(68,747 posts)mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)Should we all be silent? Good Germans?
Chemisse
(30,820 posts)Whether it is successful or not, I am glad he is trying.
Yavin4
(35,453 posts)Or charging more than what the govt will pay resulting in vets having massive debts. Imagine a for profit fire department. How would that work? You would only get fire fighting service if you can pay for it while your house is on fire.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Anybody who supports privatization shouldn't call themselves a democrat. Still waiting for the weak-kneed VFW, Am Legion, Viet Nam Vets etc. to come out and loudly protest the hollowing out of an already underfunded agency. How about building more VA clinics across the country? No shortage of $$ for soldiers when they carry an M-16. After we get home - not so much.
A please be very careful before you attempt to thank me for my service - you might not enjoy my reply!!!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The first is privatizing social security, the other is privatizing the VA. If they somehow got those done, they gut and will lose two parts of their base. Democrats have saved republicans from making those two mistakes and the republican base that benefitted stuck fingers in democrats' eyes.