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Can't prove it BUT i think RUMP and PUTIN are planning everything (Original Post) bluestarone Mar 2018 OP
Would not be shocked or surprised especially after seeing how Assan said fake news about the ... uponit7771 Mar 2018 #1
That occurred to me as well. dchill Mar 2018 #2
Yup. Traitor in the absolute worst way. kysrsoze Mar 2018 #3
I dont think so, but trump is sure trying hard not to upset Putin for some reason. Hoyt Mar 2018 #4
your probably right BUT bluestarone Mar 2018 #5
Who really knows. Putin could have a receiver implanted in trumps ear telling Hoyt Mar 2018 #7
I agree, but I think it's through a 3rd party ecstatic Mar 2018 #6
Yea that's very possible!! bluestarone Mar 2018 #9
Possiblities? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #20
don't think trump is that smart nt msongs Mar 2018 #8
Doesn't matter.. he's putin's puppet Cha Mar 2018 #12
In which case moondust Mar 2018 #10
If they're not.. they're trying to make Cha Mar 2018 #11
Daily meetings Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #13
Trump isn't planning anything. Putin orders him to do things. JI7 Mar 2018 #14
Bingo DFW Mar 2018 #15
Pootie is playing a three-dimensional chess game FakeNoose Mar 2018 #22
Maggots plan MFM008 Mar 2018 #16
Yep Meowmee Mar 2018 #17
Since before the election, actually -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #18
Man soooo right here!!! bluestarone Mar 2018 #19
I just posted some info I had for possible 3rd party involvement RandomAccess Mar 2018 #21
TY will read it looks like bluestarone Mar 2018 #23
Actually, deeper than I remembered (or perhaps knew) -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #24

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
1. Would not be shocked or surprised especially after seeing how Assan said fake news about the ...
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:28 AM
Mar 2018

... people being killed with chemical weapons in Syria.

Seems like they have a very coordinated message

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. I dont think so, but trump is sure trying hard not to upset Putin for some reason.
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:41 AM
Mar 2018

They’ve got something on him that keeps him in line. Communication is probably rarely needed. Obviously, bad for us.

bluestarone

(16,833 posts)
5. your probably right BUT
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:44 AM
Mar 2018

I Can't think of a reason why RUMP would give Syria to PUTIN this way among other things happening! Just saying!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Who really knows. Putin could have a receiver implanted in trumps ear telling
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:49 AM
Mar 2018

him what to tweet, who to impose tariffs on, and worse. This is something that was unimaginable several years ago. We knew GOPers would screw America, but Jeez, this is going way beyond that.

ecstatic

(32,640 posts)
6. I agree, but I think it's through a 3rd party
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:48 AM
Mar 2018

One of the many "crooks and/or weirdos" trump calls for advice. And trump may or may not be aware that the advice is straight from Putin. SMFH. Traitor. I hope they catch him and give him the highest punishment available.

bluestarone

(16,833 posts)
9. Yea that's very possible!!
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:53 AM
Mar 2018

Something surely does stink tho! Where the fuck are our Military protectors (To stop this IDIOT)?? I just don't get it!!

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
20. Possiblities?
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:27 PM
Mar 2018
The man who controls Donald Trump is not Vladimir Putin. His name is Semion Mogilevich.
The story we are currently living is one of mobsters and spies.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210092032
Semion Mogilevich is described as "the most brilliant, dangerous, powerful, criminal mastermind the world has ever seen." He is knows as "Boss of Bosses" and "The Brainy Don".
To understand how he controls our President will take a little reading and time, but it is well worth it. This site is sourced to the hilt.
Read it. Take the time to watch the videos because there is valuable information in there.
I'm going to link to Page 1 instead of the home page and let you start there.
http://www.citjourno.org/page-1
Edited to say: Fred Trump, Roy Cohen, Felix Sater, Alfa Bank, Gazprom, Oleg Deripaska, Firtash, Bayrock, etc. It's all there.

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OTHER POSSIBILITIES --

19:26 3/30/2018
A private jet linked to a Russian oligarch flew to the U.S. at a key time in the 2016 election
By Greg Walters at Vice News https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210433390
AND https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210433491
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/paxkpb/paul-manafort-a-mysterious-russian-jet-and-a-secret-meeting
In August 2016, a private jet linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska traveled from Moscow to Newark Liberty International Airport in Newark, New Jersey. The Gulfstream G550 (registration M-ALAY) landed shortly after midnight and, according to publicly available flight records, flew back to Moscow that same afternoon. Deripaska, 50, is the founder of Basic Element, a Russian industrial conglomerate with massive holdings in aluminum, energy, and construction. With an estimated net worth of $6 billion, he can afford to send a private jet across the globe whenever he wants.
Still, according to a source familiar with the matter, that August flight has caught the attention of congressional investigators, in part because of its timing.
The jet arrived within hours of a meeting in nearby Manhattan between Paul Manafort, then chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, and Konstantin Kilimnik. Kilimnik spent over a decade as Manafort’s translator and fixer in Ukraine. Weeks earlier, Manafort had emailed his old associate and told him to extend an offer of "private briefings" to Deripaska, according to The Washington Post.
Congressional investigators looking into Russian meddling in the 2016 election are now probing the relationship between Manafort, Kilimnik, and Deripaska, according to two people familiar with the matter. The jet’s brief trip to New Jersey raises fresh questions about the relationship between the three men during the 2016 presidential campaign. Deripaska is believed to have close ties with the Kremlin. Kilimnik has been widely reported to be the unnamed person identified in court filings by special counsel Robert Mueller's office this week as having ties to Russian intelligence — a relationship Kilimnik has long denied.


11:46 12/23/2017
Oleg Deripaska's M-SAWO 12/22 Moscow-Miami, landed 4am local time this morning (12/23).
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210018019
- Juha Keskinen @MacFinn44
Tetran Assets' M-BLUE 12/21 Geneva-London. 12/22 London-Tel Aviv. Tetran Assets is controlled by Nir Livnat who is the CEO of the Steinmetz Diamond Group. pic.twitter.com/hqTPRX99KD
- Oleg Deripaska's M-SAWO 12/22 Moscow-Miami, landed ~4am local time this morning (12/23). So we have Deripaska's plane (no idea who was on it) and Rybolovlev's M-KATE in Miami and Trump in Mar-a-Lago. Happy Holidays?? pic.twitter.com/zDbqHPpQR3
8:45 AM - Dec 23, 2017

- More Russians heading to the US. Alexander Abramov's (Evraz) D-ALEX 12/23 Paris-Heading to the US (airborne)
- FBI has access to the passenger manifesto. Deripaska is sanctioned but has been to the US about 10 times. Putin has gotten him diplomat passports for "G20 and UN business". Previously he has flown to NY, haven't seen any of his planes in FL before.




Johnny2X2X

(18,955 posts)
13. Daily meetings
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 01:27 AM
Mar 2018

The type of targeted marketing campaign that the Russian interference conducted took daily meetings with the Trump campaign and the RNC. They were responding in unison to changes in the news cycle on an hourly basis at times.

This was not the type of effort that could have happened with a few back channel meetings. This was coordinated in a way that made the Russians an integral part of the Trump campaign’s day to day strategies and activities. They had communications constantly and it will likely be revealed that the Russians had people in meeting with the Trump campaign every morning and then again every evening. The profiles of the voters the Russians targeted for fake news will be the key to all of this. They came from the Trump campaign and the RNC.

FakeNoose

(32,535 posts)
22. Pootie is playing a three-dimensional chess game
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:36 PM
Mar 2018

... while Cheeto can barely manage a checkers games.



MFM008

(19,803 posts)
16. Maggots plan
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 06:37 AM
Mar 2018

Was to win ANY way possible...
OR lose profitably.
Take the money and run.

Attempting to do both isnt working.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
18. Since before the election, actually --
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:08 PM
Mar 2018

I've thought that for a very long time -- well, since before the election.

ETA: After all, what WAS that potential "backchannel" to Putin supposedly for, after all?

bluestarone

(16,833 posts)
19. Man soooo right here!!!
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:23 PM
Mar 2018

Started WAY BACK!! I'm wondering when Mueller finishes INDICTING this asshole, if WE ( the public) will ever see all the evidence he has on RUMP? I'm hoping so!

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
24. Actually, deeper than I remembered (or perhaps knew) --
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 04:41 PM
Mar 2018

Whistleblower: Bannon wanted Data "To wage a culture war on america".



And Bannon's mentor, so to speak, is Aleksandr Dugin:

Aleksandr Dugin - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin
Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin is a Russian political scientist known for his fascist views who calls to hasten the "end of times" with all out war. He has close ties with ...


'Putin's Rasputin' Endorses Trump | The Weekly Standard
www.weeklystandard.com/putins-rasputin-endorses-trump/article/2001344
Mar 1, 2016 - Aleksandr Dugin, otherwise known as “Putin's Rasputin, has endorsed Donald Trump for president of the United States.

So basically, for getting info on the "right things" to do, Trump has plenty of options to turn to, not to mention his own black soul native autocratic intentions.
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