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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:37 PM Jul 2012

No to ‘fracking’ doesn’t mean no - Landowner refusal can’t stop drilling

Last edited Mon Jul 30, 2012, 10:32 PM - Edit history (1)

from The Columbus Dispatch Sunday July 29, 2012

Steve Neeley estimates that he has spent more than $500,000 over the past 12?years to build a country estate in southern Portage County.

When a Chesapeake Energy land man approached him months ago with an offer to lease the Utica shale mineral rights beneath his meticulously landscaped 9.5-acre property in eastern Ohio, Neeley declined. That’s when, Neeley says, the land man told him, “We’ll just take it.”

Neeley and 23 of his neighbors are the first group of Ohio landowners forced to take part in Utica-shale drilling under a seldom-used state law. The law lets companies add properties to large “ drilling units” even if leases with landowners haven’t been obtained, to maximize access to deeply buried oil and gas. Even the state isn’t immune from the law. The Chesapeake Energy drilling unit of 959 acres in Portage and Stark counties includes a 4-acre corner of Quail Hollow State Park northeast of Canton. That makes it the first state park in line for “fracking.”

Ohio Department of Natural Resources officials say the “unitization” law guarantees fair compensation, and that the properties of unwilling landowners won’t be damaged.
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http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/07/29/no-to-fracking-doesnt-mean-no.html

I find this kind of discouraging.


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No to ‘fracking’ doesn’t mean no - Landowner refusal can’t stop drilling (Original Post) limpyhobbler Jul 2012 OP
How do you compensate for water quality and lost farmland? PDJane Jul 2012 #1
Milkshake drinking grantcart Jul 2012 #2
Mining has been a favored industry going back to colonial times. CK_John Jul 2012 #3
I find it disgusting Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #4
I have always known I don't own the mineral rights beneath my property NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #5
In this case the landowners do own the mineral rights. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #8
What exactly is stopping these folks from forcibly evicting these unlawful tenants? Sirveri Jul 2012 #6
Was proposed in PA, but hasn't passed JPZenger Jul 2012 #7

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. How do you compensate for water quality and lost farmland?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:43 PM
Jul 2012

What's fair compensation for the loss of a way of life?

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
3. Mining has been a favored industry going back to colonial times.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:54 PM
Jul 2012

Back then it was necessary to grow the early coloniies. Mining was encouraged and had little or no restrictions.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
5. I have always known I don't own the mineral rights beneath my property
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:17 PM
Jul 2012

Do some folks really think this is a new phenomena?

Don

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
8. In this case the landowners do own the mineral rights.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jul 2012

But it doesn't matter. Gas companies get whatever they want.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
6. What exactly is stopping these folks from forcibly evicting these unlawful tenants?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:34 AM
Jul 2012

They haven't signed a lease, the land does not belong to them and they have no rights to drill it. I'd go over and lock them out and tear down anything they put up.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
7. Was proposed in PA, but hasn't passed
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:06 AM
Jul 2012

This is known as "forced pooling." It was proposed last year in PA, but wasn't passed. Apparently several states do have it.

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