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Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 02:53 AM Mar 2018

Ohio student shot at school gets detention for participating in school walkout - told to apologize

Ohio student shot at school gets detention for participating in national school walkout — then told to apologize

Less than two years ago, Cooper Caffrey was sitting in his school’s cafeteria eating chicken nuggets. Then he was shot. So, it seems fitting he would want to participate in the protests demanding school safety and a stop to school shootings. Yet, when he did, his principal gave Caffrey detention.

According to a Cincinnati.com report, details how Caffrey remembers falling to the ground, being unsure what happened, and watching his fellow students run away from him. Four students were injured that day, including Caffrey, who later offered forgiveness to the 14-year-old shooter.

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On March 14, Caffrey went to school, ready to join students across the United States in walking out of class to protest school shootings. While the effort was lead by Parkland, Florida students that had just survived a mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, many young people, who fear for their safety, were more than happy to lend their voice to the cause. Caffrey was one of them.

His principal made an announcement that morning that many were wearing the colors of MSD in solidarity, however, he warned all students that if they walked out, they’d be sent to detention. Caffrey was furious.

When the time came, Caffrey, along with 42 other students, walked past the cafeteria in which he was shot, and out their school’s doors. They were all given detention.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/ohio-student-shot-school-gets-detention-participating-national-school-walkout-told-apologize/



Ohio school shooting survivor Cooper Caffrey (Photo: Screen capture)
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Ohio student shot at school gets detention for participating in school walkout - told to apologize (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 OP
The princicpal needs detention Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #1
I sure agree! Jesus! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #2
Let us see True Blue American Mar 2018 #4
I think it's a little late - Cuomo came out with his statement the very next day Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #6
No, the principal needs to be shot DFW Mar 2018 #9
This morning on MSNBC they made the point that after being shot and seeing their friends murdered Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #13
I am sick of a bunch of deskbound bureaucrats DFW Mar 2018 #14
Fire Him! True Blue American Mar 2018 #3
I sure agree! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #5
I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the attitude of many people toward these students Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #7
I can not wait. True Blue American Mar 2018 #8
The thing is, the "adults" had their chance - and did nothing Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #10
"Blasphemy" get the red out Mar 2018 #11
+1 and also unpatriotic of all things lunasun Mar 2018 #12
The High School students in Greenbrier, Arkansas that walked out were paddled. TomSlick Mar 2018 #16
I heard about that. I thought corporal punishment at school was Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #17
So did I. TomSlick Mar 2018 #18
Kick. Were his teachers featured in Pink Floyd's The Wall? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #15
This is going to backfire big time KelleyKramer Mar 2018 #19
UnFuckingReal.. That's some coldassed Idiocy Cha Mar 2018 #20
I know! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #21
No, I don't think gov kasich will stand Cha Mar 2018 #22
That was my first thought, too! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #23
I certainly would for my child.. Cha Mar 2018 #24
So would I - and I can't blame any student who wanted to participate. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #25
civil disobedience tirebiter Mar 2018 #26
This Cosmocat Mar 2018 #27
People need to take a step back on this Cosmocat Mar 2018 #28

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
2. I sure agree! Jesus!
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 03:28 AM
Mar 2018

In my area of New York, several local schools supported the students participating in the walkout - except one community up north of here (the one place I saw Trump signs when I drove through just before the election) which threatened any participating students with suspension. But when I looked for news about it after the event, I read that Governor Cuomo had issued an order to investigate any New York schools which had prevented students from participating:


Cuomo: Probe any NY schools that blocked student walkout
http://poststar.com/news/state-and-regional/cuomo-probe-any-ny-schools-that-blocked-student-walkout/article_b983c0e5-d0dd-5458-817f-a033df06fbbf.html

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
6. I think it's a little late - Cuomo came out with his statement the very next day
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:28 AM
Mar 2018

And of course there's that myth that Kasich is a moderate.

DFW

(54,057 posts)
9. No, the principal needs to be shot
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 06:05 AM
Mar 2018

THEN let him go terrorize other shooting victims. Until then, he has no business passing judgment.

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
13. This morning on MSNBC they made the point that after being shot and seeing their friends murdered
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:18 AM
Mar 2018

These students have nothing left to fear. "Detention" is not even in the same universe...

DFW

(54,057 posts)
14. I am sick of a bunch of deskbound bureaucrats
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:27 PM
Mar 2018

They have their crosses on heir walls and a bible on their desks, and have no clue about what either were about. Trying to be control freaks in the lives of their students and cruel disciplinarians when the students protest is NOT what they were put behind those desks for. After what some of these young people went through, if the bureaucrats remain clueless, they should either get a clue or get out.

True Blue American

(17,972 posts)
3. Fire Him!
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:20 AM
Mar 2018

No that Principal needs to be frog marched out of the School in front of the students and fired immediately.

Was that the School close to Middletown? That one had me in panic mode. My Grandson was in a High School just a few miles away and the news was not clear which School it was.

That poor, young student,to survive and then have a blanking,ignorant Principle give detention.

He must be one of those Southwestern Ohio gun worshipers in a suit!

Remember JD Vance book? Hillbilly Elogy? Middletown. Really an eye opener if you have not read it. And,yes,JD is a Republican. The party asked him to run.

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
5. I sure agree!
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:25 AM
Mar 2018

Parents, friends and neighbors need to step up and demand it - if students spoke out (even if they had also been shot) they'd likely also face disciplinary consequences.

Arkansas Granny

(31,484 posts)
7. I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the attitude of many people toward these students
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:40 AM
Mar 2018

who are speaking up about school shootings and gun violence. It's as though they aren't allowed to have opinions or exercise their Constitutional rights to free speech. They are essentially saying, "You kids sit down and shut up and let us take care of this."

Well, it's not being taken care of, these kids will soon be voting adults and they will be heard. They are standing up for their rights and aren't going to go away quietly this time.

True Blue American

(17,972 posts)
8. I can not wait.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:54 AM
Mar 2018

I only hope to live long enough to see this cancer cut out of the Government Leaders. Right down to the BOE and local leaders.

We do have many great Democratic Leaders, including Nan Whaley. Mayor of near by Dayton. She brought back Dayton from the ruins of the recession of 2008, the loss of 5 GM plants. Brought in new companies and restored others. Completely
rebuilding the entire City.

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
10. The thing is, the "adults" had their chance - and did nothing
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 08:11 AM
Mar 2018

Not one thing changed. And they talked about it on MSNBC, after what those kids went through, seeing their friends murdered and knowing they could be next, they aren't afraid of anything. And we can't blame them for whatever they do, after what they experienced which absolutely changed their lives. I thought those were good points.

TomSlick

(11,035 posts)
16. The High School students in Greenbrier, Arkansas that walked out were paddled.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 07:55 PM
Mar 2018

They were given the choice of paddling or detention but still....

TomSlick

(11,035 posts)
18. So did I.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 08:28 PM
Mar 2018

As Herself says: "No one ever moved to Arkansas to have his consciousness raised."

One of the Greenbrier students spoke at the Little Rock MFOL. Very powerful speaker for one so young

KelleyKramer

(8,851 posts)
19. This is going to backfire big time
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 01:35 AM
Mar 2018

Bullying over the kids will not work and it will backfire on them

Good for these kids standing up for themselves

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
21. I know!
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 02:01 AM
Mar 2018

You'll remember the discussion we had about Governor Cuomo's reaction to students here in New York who were prevented and/or punished for participating. And the fact that this student was also shot puts this in a whole different category! However, I'm not holding my breath that Governor Kasich will step up the way Governor Cuomo did - or he would have long before this.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
22. No, I don't think gov kasich will stand
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 02:12 AM
Mar 2018

up for Cooper Caffrey the way Gov Cuomo did for the students in New York.

Wonder what Cooper's parents thought of this heinous punishment?

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
23. That was my first thought, too!
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 02:19 AM
Mar 2018

It's up to the parents and supporters of these students - who also experienced the same horror that the Parkland kids did - to raise holy hell in the district about this idiot of a principal!

Cha

(295,929 posts)
24. I certainly would for my child..
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 03:03 AM
Mar 2018

and get my friends in on it. too.

Well, I finally went to the link.. sorry! rawstory freezes up on me sometimes and I was in a hurry.. doing my laundry and fixing supper.

snip//

The quiet Republican-leaning town is now being torn apart by those protesting the decision. Protests have popped up across from the school with parents and friends demanding the school administration “encourage (not punish) bravery.” Caffrey’s own father agreed with the principal’s decision to punish the students, but not for the reason they might think.

“The whole purpose of a walkout is to protest against an establishment,” he wrote in a Facebook post. “I do not expect the establishment to support the walkout.”

If the students weren’t punished it would have been pointless. The punishment has garnered local media reports and sparked a conversation about the shooting the school experienced in 2016. However, the students did meet with the administrators in an effort to come to some sort of mutual agreement prior to the walkout. The administration, however, refused to budge.

snip//

“He’s always hated the attention from all of this,” his dad said. “I know that he really just wanted to pretend that day never happened.”

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Poor thing!

Interesting! Cooper's father sounds like a thinker.

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
25. So would I - and I can't blame any student who wanted to participate.
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 04:32 AM
Mar 2018

It's totally beyond me how these students must feel now, being expected to return to school after seeing their friends and classmates murdered. I think they should be able to work through it in any way that helps them deal with it - let alone kids who were actually shot, like this young boy.

As for the students throughout the country who felt compelled to participate, I sure can't blame them, either. Obviously it can - and has - happened in schools all over and they never know where or when. High school is tough enough, especially now, without wondering if and when something like this could happen.

I think that Governor Cuomo made the right call - and enforcing "regular discipline" under these circumstances seems awfully short sighted. These kids will have these horrific memories for the rest of their lives. These are not "normal" times.

tirebiter

(2,520 posts)
26. civil disobedience
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 05:42 AM
Mar 2018

Includes taking any punishment. I'd make a media event around it. It's not like the kid's going to be on a chain gang but it could still.be used to raise awareness

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
28. People need to take a step back on this
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 07:08 AM
Mar 2018

There are schools situated and communities that are fairly liberal, that can wave the consequences for these walkouts. But people need to understand, that isn't the case for most communities.

The post above notes civil disobedience, that's what this is. You make a stand in some way that runs counter to accepted norms, rules are even laws. And you accept the consequences that come along with that.

A lot of communities are willing to accept the walkouts, as long as the consequences that normally are in place or applied. People may not agree with it, but will accept it. If you were to waive these penalties in these communities, there likely would be a lot more push back against it.

We have to effectively engage in this way, to break past that 50% point to possibly have any hope of making advances in this particular matter, and all.

One more point that people aren't thinking of. If you waive the consequences for this, you set a precedent where any issue that students may walk out on, they will expect to have the penalties waived. I can tell you in our community, there were people who demanded that if the penalties were waived for this, students should be able to walk out and support of having teachers arm, and have no consequences. This is a matter of consistency of policy, a standard of all public service.

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