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Ever been in a store where a clerk marked the bill, and it WAS counterfeit? (Original Post) raccoon Jul 2012 OP
Nope. Archae Jul 2012 #1
No. Lint Head Jul 2012 #2
I offer the clerk another one to take it jberryhill Jul 2012 #3
What would happen is the police and secret service would be called. Marrah_G Jul 2012 #4
And the shop owner Aerows Jul 2012 #8
I don't take/receive fakes. LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #5
Yes Aerows Jul 2012 #6
Fives and ones are never checked Freddie Jul 2012 #7
Years and years ago, a stupid criminal in Kansas (Wichita, I think) was busted TheDebbieDee Jul 2012 #12
"Queer as a fourteen-dollar bill" just doesn't cut it KamaAina Jul 2012 #15
3 dollar bills bongbong Jul 2012 #26
I was a bookkeeper at a big-box store that got a phony 50 once sweetloukillbot Jul 2012 #9
Not exactly, but once at this Albertsons in Dallas... derby378 Jul 2012 #10
Yes, while making a bank deposit Nevernose Jul 2012 #11
The area where it happened Aerows Jul 2012 #13
According to the former head of Metro Police's financial crimes unit Nevernose Jul 2012 #17
Gulf Coast Aerows Jul 2012 #23
"If You Receive a Counterfeit * Do not return it to the passer." PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #14
Unless, of course Aerows Jul 2012 #24
I work on a college campus Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #16
In the 80s, Hezbollah were the major counterfeiters Nevernose Jul 2012 #18
I keep seeing repeated rumors about North Korean counterfeiting. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #19
Best counterfeiter I know of was named Art Williams and lived not far from me NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #22
Pens are worthless quitnesset Jul 2012 #20
It filters out counterfeit high bills sometimes Aerows Jul 2012 #25
It only works if the counterfeiter has used starch TlalocW Jul 2012 #28
Stupid iodine pens are bullshit false security slackmaster Jul 2012 #21
Get ripped off for $100 once Aerows Jul 2012 #27

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
4. What would happen is the police and secret service would be called.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jul 2012

The person trying to pay with the bill would be questioned and even if they had done no wrong, they would be out the amount of the bill.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. And the shop owner
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jul 2012

when they get to the bank after they accepted it from the customer, is out the amount of the bill. Already happened to my parents. Now they use a pen, and already caught one fake bill trying to get passed. Impossible to say whose fault that one was, but at least they weren't stuck with it like the first time.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. Yes
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jul 2012

At my parent's shop. They used the pen. They handed the money back to the young man and he had to go find a one hundred that wasn't counterfeit to get his car back after they repaired it. They've been stuck with a phony one hundred before.

OH: and yes, the police were called. My parents were not involved further, but I'm sure the young man was questioned.

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
7. Fives and ones are never checked
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jul 2012

Couple years ago some high school
kids in my town did some quite successful counterfeiting of ones and fives and were not caught for a while. Mostly spent the $$ at convenience stores. They got in serious trouble as you can imagine.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
12. Years and years ago, a stupid criminal in Kansas (Wichita, I think) was busted
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:28 PM
Jul 2012

trying to circulate counterfeit $14.00 bills. Yes, you read that right - $14.00 bills..........

I read this in a book called America's Dumbest Criminals in the early 90s long before it became a TV show.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. "Queer as a fourteen-dollar bill" just doesn't cut it
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:34 PM
Jul 2012

I'll stick with threes, thank you very much.

sweetloukillbot

(11,135 posts)
9. I was a bookkeeper at a big-box store that got a phony 50 once
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jul 2012

The clerk had marked it, questioned it and been told by a manager to take it. When I was processing the days' receipts I was pissed - it was obviously fake AND the had been marked. I asked another manager what to do with it. After questioning the clerk and the manager who approved it (who got written up for it) - we included it in our daily deposit and never heard back from the bank.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
10. Not exactly, but once at this Albertsons in Dallas...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jul 2012

...there were three people closely examining this old $100 bill to see if it was counterfeit: the store manager, a police officer, and me. And it wasn't even my $100 bill. I don't exactly recall why they handed me the bill, but there we were, all looking at the artwork and feeling the paper to see if it was legit or not. We eventually decided it was legit. It was slightly surreal.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
11. Yes, while making a bank deposit
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jul 2012

For the restaurant I worked at. The clerk was counting and she pulled out a bill seemingly at random. She called over the manager, he verified it, and they altered the deposit accordingly. Said they were sorry, that it happens all the time. According to my boss, it happened to him a few times a year. For many, many years, though, Las Vegas was the only small city to have its own Secret Service branch, just for that reason; it's been a center of financial cme since Bugsy in the 1940s.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. The area where it happened
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jul 2012

to us also has legalize gambling. Interesting. I guess it makes sense, though.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
17. According to the former head of Metro Police's financial crimes unit
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:48 PM
Jul 2012

Las Vegas was the number one city in the world for financial shenanigans -- check fraud, money laundering, counterfeiting, online rip-offs, etc -- second only to London and beating out every other American city. Besides the ability to at least attempt money laundering through casinos, I think gambling towns just have an innate knack for attracting schemers, con men, and criminals. I've seen it all over, from Vegas, to Atlantic City, to Hot Springs Arkansaa.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. Gulf Coast
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jul 2012

We have gambling here. I guess it's the same thing, different area type deal. Anywhere cash flows, counterfeit cash is going to end up. My parents got ripped off once, now they test all bills from 20's up.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. Unless, of course
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:51 PM
Jul 2012

You feel your life is in danger. Then you hand it back and call 911. Don't forget that part.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. I work on a college campus
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:41 PM
Jul 2012

and a student got caught using one at the campus food court...She said she got it in change from the bookstore, and the trail pretty much ended there...

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
18. In the 80s, Hezbollah were the major counterfeiters
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jul 2012

Something I forgot to mention upthread: In the 80s, Hezbollah were the major counterfeiters, but after the fall of communism, the biggest 90s counterfeiters were former Eastern European security services, specifically Bulgarians and Romanians. My boss at that restaurant bought $30k dollars worth of twenties for $15k real cash, and I met the Bulgarians involved, who were only too happy to tell me all about it. Funny how that escaped by brain temporarily.

It's been a strange life; ask me sometime about Dana Plato's pimp, or the craziness of the wife of the Jersey mobster who extorted Steven Seagal.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
22. Best counterfeiter I know of was named Art Williams and lived not far from me
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jul 2012

Read about him here:

http://www.jasonkersten.com/Art%20of%20Making%20Money.pdf

From Art's story:

“I WAS BUSTED WITH $60,000 IN
COUNTERFEIT IN A HOTEL WITH
MY WIFE’S NAKED SISTER,”
WILLIAMS SAYS. “IT WAS A
DOUBLE BUST. IT WAS UGLY.”

quitnesset

(56 posts)
20. Pens are worthless
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jul 2012

The pens are worthless. They only test the paper.. People bleach $1 bills and print 20's, '50's and 100's on the good paper . Those bills pass the pen test.. We use a machine at our shop to test bills.. When we find bad bills we give them back to the customer and ask if they have another...we have enough to do with running our business and don't need to become cops too.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. It filters out counterfeit high bills sometimes
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:55 PM
Jul 2012

and the latest bills are getting harder to counterfeit. Pens have their uses, and they helped my parents from getting scammed once. A $2 pen vs. losing $100 bucks? Yeah, I'll use one.

TlalocW

(15,393 posts)
28. It only works if the counterfeiter has used starch
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:16 PM
Jul 2012

Good counterfeiters know this and don't use starch.

TlalocW

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
21. Stupid iodine pens are bullshit false security
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 07:02 PM
Jul 2012

A legitimate note that has been through a normal clothes washing cycle, or has been soiled with food residue, will show as counterfeit with the iodine test.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. Get ripped off for $100 once
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jul 2012

You will take care to not let it happen in the future. It's not bullshit to the person that gets ripped off.

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