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BREAKING: The latest Romney outrage (contradicts U.S. policy on Jerusalem)
BREAKING: The latest Romney outrage
by leevank
In what may well be the most outrageous statement on foreign soil by a Presidential candidate in this country's history, Mitt Romney today presumed to announce U.S. policy on Jerusalem being the capital of Israel.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/29/1114809/-You-re-not-President-yet-Mitt
Here is a CNN description of the interview, which recognizes that he did in fact pledge to move the Embassy:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/29/romney-says-jerusalem-is-israels-capital-vows-to-move-embassy/
Romney is either abysmally ignorant of the history of U.S. policy on this question or he considers grubbing for votes to be more important than standing in a city that is the center of a major foreign policy question and presuming to announce a major change in U.S. policy before he's even elected. (My personal money is on both of the above.) Wikipedia actually has a pretty good synopsis of the history of U.S. foreign policy on this question, as I understand it (and I took a course on the Middle East in world politics only a few years after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war and have generally followed the issue since that time):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#United_States
The United States and, with a handful of temporary exceptions from small countries, all countries have maintained their embassies in Tel Aviv, and have refused to move them to Jerusalem, despite the urgings of the Israeli government. The U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem does not operate under the jurisdiction of the Embassy in Tel Aviv, as do most consulates. Instead, as described in the State Department's website:
http://jerusalem.usconsulate.gov/about_the_embassy.html
Make no mistake about it. In the words of the Vice President on another subject, "this is a big fucking deal." Other politicians, including President Obama, have recognized that Jerusalem is de facto the capital of Israel, but they have also taken the position that the final status of Jerusalem is a matter for negotiation between the Israelis, the Palestinians, and the international community, and have therefore refused to move the Embassy there. And now Mitt Romney not only says he intends to move the Embassy, he says he "would only want to do so and to select the timing in accordance with the government of Israel."
Since when do Presidential candidates stand on foreign soil and pledge to conduct U.S. foreign policy in accordance with the desires of the foreign government on whose soil they are standing? No other candidate has ever done so, and it is an outrage for this one to do it now. I would personally not be surprised if innocent Americans died as a result of this show of a stunning combination of arrogance and ignorance. But hey, at least Mitt got somebody to like him on this trip (from the Yahoo link above the fold):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/29/1114809/-You-re-not-President-yet-Mitt
by leevank
In what may well be the most outrageous statement on foreign soil by a Presidential candidate in this country's history, Mitt Romney today presumed to announce U.S. policy on Jerusalem being the capital of Israel.
Standing on Israeli soil, U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Sunday declared Jerusalem to be the capital of the Jewish state . . . .
[SNIP]
Romney's declaration that Jerusalem is Israel's capital was matter-of-fact and in keeping with claims made by Israeli governments for decades, even though the United States, like other nations, maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv.
He did not say if he would order the embassy moved if he wins the White House, but strongly suggested so in a CNN interview.
"My understanding is the policy of our nation has been a desire to move our embassy ultimately to the capital (Jerusalem)," he said, adding, "I would only want to do so and to select the timing in accordance with the government of Israel."
[SNIP]
Romney's declaration that Jerusalem is Israel's capital was matter-of-fact and in keeping with claims made by Israeli governments for decades, even though the United States, like other nations, maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv.
He did not say if he would order the embassy moved if he wins the White House, but strongly suggested so in a CNN interview.
"My understanding is the policy of our nation has been a desire to move our embassy ultimately to the capital (Jerusalem)," he said, adding, "I would only want to do so and to select the timing in accordance with the government of Israel."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/29/1114809/-You-re-not-President-yet-Mitt
Here is a CNN description of the interview, which recognizes that he did in fact pledge to move the Embassy:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/29/romney-says-jerusalem-is-israels-capital-vows-to-move-embassy/
Romney is either abysmally ignorant of the history of U.S. policy on this question or he considers grubbing for votes to be more important than standing in a city that is the center of a major foreign policy question and presuming to announce a major change in U.S. policy before he's even elected. (My personal money is on both of the above.) Wikipedia actually has a pretty good synopsis of the history of U.S. foreign policy on this question, as I understand it (and I took a course on the Middle East in world politics only a few years after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war and have generally followed the issue since that time):
The U.S. opposed Israel’s moving its capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem following Israel's declaration of Jerusalem as its capital in 1949 and opposed Jordan’s plan to make Jerusalem its second capital announced in 1950. The U.S. opposed Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem after the 1967 war. The United States maintains a consulate in Jerusalem that deals primarily with the Palestinian Authority, while relations with the Israeli government are handled from the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv. The U.S. consulate is not accredited to the Israeli government. The United States has proposed that the future of Jerusalem should be the subject of a negotiated settlement. Subsequent administrations have maintained the same policy that Jerusalem’s future not be the subject of unilateral actions that could prejudice negotiations such as moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. In 2002, Congress passed legislation that said that American citizens born in Jerusalem may list "Israel" as their country of birth, although Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have not allowed it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem#United_States
The United States and, with a handful of temporary exceptions from small countries, all countries have maintained their embassies in Tel Aviv, and have refused to move them to Jerusalem, despite the urgings of the Israeli government. The U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem does not operate under the jurisdiction of the Embassy in Tel Aviv, as do most consulates. Instead, as described in the State Department's website:
It now represents the United States in Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip as an independent mission, with the Consul General serving as chief of mission.
http://jerusalem.usconsulate.gov/about_the_embassy.html
Make no mistake about it. In the words of the Vice President on another subject, "this is a big fucking deal." Other politicians, including President Obama, have recognized that Jerusalem is de facto the capital of Israel, but they have also taken the position that the final status of Jerusalem is a matter for negotiation between the Israelis, the Palestinians, and the international community, and have therefore refused to move the Embassy there. And now Mitt Romney not only says he intends to move the Embassy, he says he "would only want to do so and to select the timing in accordance with the government of Israel."
Since when do Presidential candidates stand on foreign soil and pledge to conduct U.S. foreign policy in accordance with the desires of the foreign government on whose soil they are standing? No other candidate has ever done so, and it is an outrage for this one to do it now. I would personally not be surprised if innocent Americans died as a result of this show of a stunning combination of arrogance and ignorance. But hey, at least Mitt got somebody to like him on this trip (from the Yahoo link above the fold):
His remarks on the subject during his speech drew a standing ovation from his audience, which included Sheldon Adelson, the American businessman who has said he will donate millions to help elect Romney to the White House.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/29/1114809/-You-re-not-President-yet-Mitt
Romney Says Jerusalem Is Capital, Would Move Embassy There
Mitt Romney said that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and that as president he would work to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Sunday.
“A nation has the capacity to choose its own capital city, and Jerusalem is Israel’s capital,” Romney said. “I think it’s long been the policy to ultimately have our embassy in the nation’s capital of Jerusalem.”
Romney said the timing of the move would be worked out. “I would follow the same policy we have had in the past, our embassy would be in the capital, and the timing of that is something I would want to work out with the government,” Romney said.
Earlier this week, the White House issued a statement in response to questions from the press, clarifying their position on the issue: “The status of Jerusalem is an issue that should be resolved in final status negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. And we continue to work with both parties to resolve this issue and others in a way that is just and fair, and respects the rights and aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians.”
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-says-he-would-move-american-embassy-to
Mitt Romney said that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and that as president he would work to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Sunday.
“A nation has the capacity to choose its own capital city, and Jerusalem is Israel’s capital,” Romney said. “I think it’s long been the policy to ultimately have our embassy in the nation’s capital of Jerusalem.”
Romney said the timing of the move would be worked out. “I would follow the same policy we have had in the past, our embassy would be in the capital, and the timing of that is something I would want to work out with the government,” Romney said.
Earlier this week, the White House issued a statement in response to questions from the press, clarifying their position on the issue: “The status of Jerusalem is an issue that should be resolved in final status negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. And we continue to work with both parties to resolve this issue and others in a way that is just and fair, and respects the rights and aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians.”
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-says-he-would-move-american-embassy-to
Romney needs to be yanked off the international stage.
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well, it has gotten worse, as a matter of fact 'Mitt The Twit' is on a roll;
Oy vey.
The world needs to be reminded that Mitt Romney is NOT in a position of power and the US needs to make sure he never is!
You do know what happens to Ron Paul supporters around here?
