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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe real victim here is Barron - that poor young man
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I mean how gross - how gross to hear about your dad getting spanked by an adult film actress while your mom was pregnant with you (or had just had you), having an affair with a playmate, etc.
I mean Melania knew what she was getting into when she married the ickster.
But for a boy to hear about how awful his dad treated him mom, how little regard his dad had for him, to hear that his dad compared his sex partners to his half-sister (just eww) - and the world knows all of it.
But all trump cares about is how the interview makes him look to his fans -not the impact on his son. Does he even remember he has a young son? Could he pick him out of a line-up of several boys Barron's age?
On edit: I am talking about the sex scandal specifically, not the whole reign of orange terror. Obviously the ICE families torn apart are just one example of true victims.
I was just thinking that tonight all trump cares about is himself, while this poor kid has to hear all this gross stuff. And yes his mom was a nude model, etc etc. I can still feel that tonight the victim here is a kid.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)He's going to hear a lot
Kali
(55,006 posts)Americans who will have to fix the mess spanky mc tinyhands and the GOP are making of our country. Barron will likely turn out like the rest of them or not, but he will be (well) taken care of. The damage we are suffering is more important than one more rich spoiled child finding out his parent is an asshole.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Rich or not, he didn't ask for this.
Trump didn't happen overnight - our politicians have been corrupt for years, we have to take ownership for our part.
Yes, the effects are long ranging and horrific for many who have no options, no say, no rights, no resources.
The whole trump adulterous sex crap doesn't hurt his base, him, Melania, Stormy, Karen - it really hurts a kid.
Yes, the whole trump presidency is a fucking disaster that will take generations to fix (all those judge appointments). But tonight I just think of the poor kid who has to see his family's dirty laundry all over the news again.
Kali
(55,006 posts)but not for very long.
Doodley
(9,076 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)There is something wrong here...some form of autism I think. As for feeling sorry for him. He will receive the best there is...while Trump has increased the number of poor kids who don't even have food or a home. I don't feel especially sorry for this kid.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)Judging from his other kids he will be OK compared to the majority of US citizens. His older spawn grew up knowing he wasn't around much (unless you were his favorite daughter) and treated women like shit as well as being a fake, liar, cheater and egomaniac. They all adore him now and even do his dirty work for him. A lot of people have problems and not due to their own choices...like the millions who will die early and without any savings due to the fucking moron. As far as his children's futures are concerned I couldn't care less.
RainCaster
(10,853 posts)Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)ask to live in this shithole of a family.
Hopefully, hes shielded somehow, and is a happy young fella - hopefully!!
LisaL
(44,972 posts)hlthe2b
(102,188 posts)Secret Service aren't going to be a help on that...
Igel
(35,293 posts)In the aftermath of the Russian revolution, the young children of the bourgeoisie were kicked into the street to starve; to touch them, to feed them, would make you a class enemy. People spat on them because of their families.
And people refer to the OT God as implacable.
Bitterness and the thirst for revenge strips humanity away from people, but leaves them with the absolute certainty that they are the most humane of people.
On the other hand, it also makes us weak arbiters of the truth. We presume that since Daniels is saying bad things about the person we want to hear bad things about, she speaks only absolute truth. It's worthwhile to remember that she, too, finds money a worthy motive for her actions. If she wasn't being paid for this interview, she wouldn't have given it; if the interview were dreck and produced low ratings, her net worth would decline. People like to fallaciously say, "Follow the money". It is not always a fallacy in producing a hypothesis nor in determining motive, it's just not reliable.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)much more exciting.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)And I am capable of being disgusted by trump and having compassion for his son.
spooky3
(34,425 posts)emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Best to get your facts straight before making authoritative statements about Truth.
Cha
(297,026 posts)that be nice.
kcr
(15,315 posts)And shake your head sorrowfully while dispensing this wisdom at the masses of easily duped fools who lack empathy.
Or if this isn't the case and you really don't feel sorry for the poor kid, then maybe it's better if you simply speak for yourself.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...then I doubt any of this comes as a surprise to him.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)ck4829
(35,041 posts)I imagine he's in the care of a cluster of underpaid nannies and does not see either Donald or Melania for days at a time.
Freddie
(9,258 posts)Melania is a good mother. I think Barron is the main reason she stays in the marriage.
BannonsLiver
(16,342 posts)Retrograde
(10,132 posts)Trump knew (or should have known, if he were minimally aware) that as president his family would be living in a fishbowl. I don't think he cares about Melania or the kid as anything other than props.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)And wanted to protect her
When I hear about the reports of trump pouting because of this may play out in his polls...just eww. I mean, I don't expect him to be a father ...he hasn't been to any of himself kids, but it just sucks.
My dad is a narcissistic abusive tool who has been out of my life except for random appearances. The greatest gift I have is his absence.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)And I say that as a fan of Bill the President.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)and kids in school don't tease him, but kids will be kids.
Even with Bill's antics, Chelsea had parents that loved her and eachother. Barron's mom appear to love him, not sure about his dad. Maybe that is why Malania stayed in NYC for as long as possible, to keep Barron out of the spotlight.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)White House and I don't recall anyone rushing to protect Chelsea I can't imagine how devastating that must have been.
highplainsdem
(48,956 posts)But Melania not only knew what kind of man she was marrying, she's done a lot of other things that would embarrass most kids.
I hope Barron won't be completely messed up by his disgusting family. He may end up needing a lot of therapy, but at least he should be able to afford it.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)no tears from me...
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Then yes
Trump is not a billionaire. What money he does have is so tied up in a convoluted house of cards that there is hardly any real inheritance for the 5 children to split up. And it's not like the name is bankable anymore.
Yes, he will have more money than most of us, but I'd rather be poor then stuck with the baggage that comes with being trump spawn.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)use for any of them.
MadCrow
(155 posts)She says he doesn't look happy and wonders if he has any friends. Must be obvious if a 12 year old notices.
Doodley
(9,076 posts)Takket
(21,549 posts)once the entire drumpf cabal is locked away forever.
of course i think melania will escape jail time so she will probably raise him alone, but she'll need to get a job once the government liquidates everything drumpf has.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)And I highly doubt any else in your post will happen...he will most likely resign and keep most of his ill-gotten gains.
Takket
(21,549 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)He's either incredibly embarrassed by his father and hates his guts, or he thinks he's privileged and is looking down his nose at everyone else. In either case, he'll probably end up in therapy for years.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)vaccines in my opinion. I have no proof but the sign are there.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)"The kid has some form of autism...aspergers maybe...this is why Trump hates
vaccines in my opinion."
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Liberty Belle
(9,533 posts)Marry a foreigner and move her child out of the country, where he won't have to hear about his father's perversions day in and day out, and can have some chance of growing up without being scarred for life. Jackie O. wanted her children out of the limelight after Kennedy was assassinated.
In her case, she merely wanted to shield them from the media spotlight. The case for Melania to take Barron out of the U.S. is far stronger -- to keep him away from Trump and also non-stop negative media exposure, and give him a chance to just be a kid.
trueblue2007
(17,202 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)We keep talking about how horrible it must be for him, and his parents keep using him as a convenient shield in a most disgusting manner. Neither of them care at all about his wellbeing. Get him out of that situation!
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)a son reading about his father's unprotected sex with women in the sex trade who looked like his sister - sick stuff like that has to be more damaging than the son's name appearing in the media.
hexola
(4,835 posts)So - tough shit for Jr - get used to it.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Is having to deal with some icky ass shit because of who his parents are in public manner that I doubt few of us at his age would want to deal with. Melania can play the victim of the cheated on spouse, trump is worried about his approval ratings - in the meantime this kid has to hear about how his dad liked to cheat on his mom with women who looked like his sister.
I'm saying in this PARTICULAR instance - not in the world or even just our country - the instance of the stormy interview and rehashing - this kid is the one who of all the parties involved, has it the worst.
Good lord, there is room in my heart to feel for more than one person at a time.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She has one too, you know.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)And you bet when all the talk about threats came out, I felt for her.
Maybe it's because when I was Barron's age my mom had been married and divorced 4x in a small town where you didn't need 60 minutes for everyone to know everyone's business. I knew way too much about the sex life of one of my parents. And all either of my parents cared about was themselves and what others thought of them. So I may not have been a super rich kid, and this was the LEAST abusive thing I went through, but it was such a gross feeling.
Maybe he doesn't care, maybe he is an asshole kid, maybe he loves it...who the fuck knows. All I am saying is while watching the stormy coverage, I keep thinking of just how icky it feels when everyone knows this kind of shit about your family.
I felt the same way for Chelsea...but she had ..well still has...a mom who was fiercely protective of her. She had love from her folks, I bet Stormy loves her kid and has prepared her for this....I just don't get that vibe from Melania.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The Stormy story about his thrice married father is unlikely to register on the "my parents are weird" meter.
Did you have nude pics of your mom, and know that everyone else did?
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)and honestly - what I heard about my mom from other moms around town, what I heard from my own mom - yeah...pretty fucking bad
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Vinca
(50,248 posts)He seems isolated and lonely. The story about the dog he was promised broke my heart. I feel sorry for him. All the money in the world can't buy happiness.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)onecaliberal
(32,811 posts)Feel sorry for him. He also doesnt have to worry about being shot to death while attending school. Im sorry but I have zero sympathy for any of those fuckers.
dembotoz
(16,796 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)I'm saying, in this PARTICULAR VERY SPECIFIC ONE INSTANCE it sucks to to be him.
Good lord, I keep thinking compassion for others is something we would share.
He didn't pick his parents, he didn't ask for this... I doubt either sat him down and said you are going to hear some gross shit.